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What advice would the veterans give the young guys involved in this hobby?

I think I've just come around to this way of thinking. Reading these message boards and looking at the profiles of different girls, it makes the imagination run wild. I desperately wanted to try them all out and I've been going really hard lately, recently I went every fucking day for a week and even twice on one day. I actually got burned out, I thought what the hell am I doing this is supposed to be fun. I took a break for a week and had a 90 min session with my regular and it was perhaps the best session I've ever had. I guess I just had to get it all outta my system. Quality over quantity from now on.

And I thank you for those reviews because you experienced them for me and so now I'm no longer a slave to that curiosity. You're damn right it's supposed to be fun but when the list grows and grows, it starts to feel more like a job than a hobby. I'm not saying do what I do and see one girl. Just cut your list in half if possible bro. Your reviews are great but you don't owe any of us anything on this forum. ;)
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.
If this hobby becomes a top 3 priority in your life, go seek help as there is more important things to focus on a daily basis, unless you have the financial means to sustain it on a regular basis. All woman have sex, some more than others the only difference here is that a provider has seen it all in most cases and has sex on multiple occasions weekly compared to someone you would meet on a dating site or elsewhere. You young bucks should limit yourself to a couple times a month, and dont forget the golden rule. Woman will always break mens balls one way or another in normal relationships, and this industry provides a temporary fix not a permanent fix.
 
Krayjee,

No one believes your johnbubya persona of a young career professional, fresh out of university.

You are an old, Thai degenerate and an obvious lying piece of shit.
 
Krayjee,

No one believes your johnbubya persona of a young career professional, fresh out of university.

You are an old, Thai degenerate and an obvious lying piece of shit.
Truth or not, a young professional should be enjoying life with various women so he can set the foundation with what he wants in a woman. This industry is not the right place for that with 30 to 90 minute sessions where fantasy and reality collide.
 
1. Don't spend more than $500 a month. Just don't, you're wasting your cash.
2. Have regular activities that keeps you interacting with people, especially women. I fell into the cycle of (work, work, work, hobby)*∞. Life is about you, not the hobby.
 
Krayjee,

No one believes your johnbubya persona of a young career professional, fresh out of university.

You are an old, Thai degenerate and an obvious lying piece of shit.
you know you don't have to reply to me if you think this is all bullshit right ursula? there are actually some great responses im getting here.

why don't you go take care of your asian wife, or indian boyfriend? whichever one is real and which is imaginary.. if not both.
 
Coming from another young guy thats been in the game for year. Ima keep it short and real with you.

55k is too low. I don't care if it's all disposable. This hobby is a slippery slope.
 
I won't bore you with the whole "save your money and invest in property" crap because it all goes without saying. I'm doing fine now but was able to do this hobby when I was broke because we all need a few vices in life and going to MPs is better than drinking or smoking weed. Set a budget, find a few regulars and limit that list. I've never been the adventurous type but I've noticed that seeing one woman has considerably shrunk my budget as opposed to the time that I had to stash away several thousands of dollars on a bunch of 40/45-minute sessions so I could try as many girls as possible every week. Now I can get more out of this hobby by having unrushed 90-minute or 2-hour sessions twice or more a month with someone I trust. I suggest that you treat this hobby as a fantasy and not a means of attaining sexual gratification. Fuck! You're young! Use Tinder for sex! Let the fantasy from your MP experiences inspire you to find the right woman.

i think this is the best advice. since a few weeks ago after going through moonwaiting and barbiehouse's roster, ive been trying desperately to fit atleast 5 girls into my schedule over the past 3 weeks wanting to try them all out. however i think its best i find 1 good one that is worth the time and money, which will likely cut down my visits and lower the risk that comes with trying someone new..

and with tinder, i do use it but man if you think the SPs have bad bait and switch tendencies. with all the snapchat and instagram filters there are now, you wouldnt believe me if i told you how many times i met up with tinder girls and they dont even look half of what they looked like in their photos. becomes really annoying meeting a girl at a restaurant for food only to find out shes fatter or uglier in person. its a real pain in the ass to worry about that, and if they're ugly i don't even try to fuck after, i just go home. its really a bitch to put all that time and effort just for a girl to catfish me.tinder does have its gems but its not easy when you live with your parents. can't really bring girls back to my place and girls arent often too eager to fuck in the car after a first date. oh well
 
Coming from another young guy thats been in the game for year. Ima keep it short and real with you.

55k is too low. I don't care if it's all disposable. This hobby is a slippery slope.

well i bring home about 3500 a month after taxes and my monthly expenses are about 200$ at the most.. so i think as long as i'm not dropping more than 500 a month it shouldnt leave too big a dent in my savings
 
well i bring home about 3500 a month after taxes and my monthly expenses are about 200$ at the most.. so i think as long as i'm not dropping more than 500 a month it shouldnt leave too big a dent in my savings

Lmao ok bro but here are some tell tale signs you need to chill out. If you find yourself doing any of these, reflect and be honest with yourself about what's really going on here.

A) Talking to women in real life less and less
B) Canceling plans or flaking on your friends to get in a session
C) Seeing a girl, than immediately looking at others for whom to see next
D) Getting in a cycle of work, sleep, work, sleep, work, hobby
E) Not spending money on other things you enjoyed before (shoes, night outs, travelling etc) just to squeeze in another session
 
Lmao ok bro but here are some tell tale signs you need to chill out. If you find yourself doing any of these, reflect and be honest with yourself about what's really going on here.

A) Talking to women in real life less and less
B) Canceling plans or flaking on your friends to get in a session
C) Seeing a girl, than immediately looking at others for whom to see next
D) Getting in a cycle of work, sleep, work, sleep, work, hobby
E) Not spending money on other things you enjoyed before (shoes, night outs, travelling etc) just to squeeze in another session

Lol well lets see..

A) Talking to women in real life less and less - i work with quite a few girls my age and i'd say im friendly with everyone at the office regardless of gender. i sometimes go out for lunch with them too
B) Canceling plans or flaking on your friends to get in a session - i never do this. hobbying is not very frequent for me - maybe once every 1/2 weeks
C) Seeing a girl, than immediately looking at others for whom to see next - nope. once i get that heavenly drainage from my balls i dont even jack off for a few days as i like to allow them to refill to max ammunition. lol
D) Getting in a cycle of work, sleep, work, sleep, work, hobby - i can see this happening as my work hours are really crazy with usually 45-60 hour weeks. monday to friday im usually either at work, commuting, or sleeping.
E) Not spending money on other things you enjoyed before (shoes, night outs, travelling etc) just to squeeze in another session - i do also have other things i enjoy, been recently buying some new loafers and pricier work attire, and me and my friends often go eat atleast friday and saturday night.

i think i'm 4/5 here so i guess risk isnt too high lol
 
Coming from another young guy thats been in the game for year. Ima keep it short and real with you.

55k is too low. I don't care if it's all disposable. This hobby is a slippery slope.
I’m at +$250k and won’t go over $500/month
It’s just a waste of money but i do enjoy it in moderation. I’m not paying for a 20 something year old’s bmw or condo when I didn’t have a chance at owning any of those at that age with way more education.
I remember being in a strip club with a group of friends a few years ago and one guy puts $500 on the table and goes to the bathroom. When he came back he picked up the cash and put it back in his pocket
He said I just jerked off in the bathroom. I’m keeping the 500
 
Lol well lets see..

A) Talking to women in real life less and less - i work with quite a few girls my age and i'd say im friendly with everyone at the office regardless of gender. i sometimes go out for lunch with them too
B) Canceling plans or flaking on your friends to get in a session - i never do this. hobbying is not very frequent for me - maybe once every 1/2 weeks
C) Seeing a girl, than immediately looking at others for whom to see next - nope. once i get that heavenly drainage from my balls i dont even jack off for a few days as i like to allow them to refill to max ammunition. lol
D) Getting in a cycle of work, sleep, work, sleep, work, hobby - i can see this happening as my work hours are really crazy with usually 45-60 hour weeks. monday to friday im usually either at work, commuting, or sleeping.
E) Not spending money on other things you enjoyed before (shoes, night outs, travelling etc) just to squeeze in another session - i do also have other things i enjoy, been recently buying some new loafers and pricier work attire, and me and my friends often go eat atleast friday and saturday night.

i think i'm 4/5 here so i guess risk isnt too high lol

Fucking guy LMAOO :rolf

Welcome to the club. Please enjoy yourself and don't forget to report back. Happy hobbying!
 
How do you know he has 40 plus handles? Did he tell you that?


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no the voice in his head told him that. the same one that told him he has an asian wife, and a daughter in china, and all the other horseshit he spouts on here
 
I think everyone here knows this is a waste of money, problem is its addictive. I'm 29 and was spending way too much thinking I was forming relationships and thinking I was special. In the end I'm even more socially fucked with trust issues and have less savings than I should. Also I feel less motivated to put myself out there, why open yourself up to rejection when you can spend $140. Build a real relationship this shit is fake, my friends envy me but they're legit happy. Thankfully I felt a change in me from 4-6 times a month down to 1 eventually the urges will stop and ill retire
 
Enjoy it bro..

Everything.has its phase. Attraction brings the right people to you. Just continue to be social outside of the SPA environment and your good. You dont have alot of expenses and commitments. Have your fun and get it out your system.
 
Pay you're fucking school tution off FIRST. You don't YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY FUCKED.
 
however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.
I wouldn't say it changes your outlook on women. The bigger issue is when you catch a STD, which eventually you will, what will your gf/wife say.

If I never did it, I would have saved good money, but realistically of course I would do it all over again, due to childhood trauma, it is an addiction similar to gambling, alcohol, drugs etc.

The best advice assuming you have to do it is maximizing your bang for the buck.

1) Stick with massages and HJ, it is not worth the STD risk to go further than that.
2) Variety is the spice of life.
3) Research each place, search for your perfect experience. e.g. I found an Asian spa which had a university student around 22, fucking hot that was there every Thursday night, we had so much fun.
4) Once you are married you will get caught one day, best advice is deny, deny, deny.
 
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    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(437) 818-8896☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Pinky🥰 Brand new Canto girl from Hong Kong, Pinky is short and skinny with a petite frame of an Asian Spinner - only 5 feet and 110 lbs Pinky is a very beautiful young girl with great massage skills and wonderful attitude and personality
  30. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Mia 25 years old and young fun Yoyo open mind with 36DD, sexy Coco and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  31. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian girl and new Asian girl sherry in today
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julie ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👅👅🦵🦵🈵🈵👄👄
  34. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel & Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  35. Dreaminn:
    WEDNESDAY at💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: EVELYN, FIONA & LULU. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️
  36. SunriseRH:
    WEDNESDAY at SUNRISE SPA: LULU, MICHELLE & SUMMER. Also NEW Girl Lulu after 2pm. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 647-325-8086 ☎️ LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5’2” & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered.
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa ♨️♨️♨️have Table shower🚿🚿🚿🚿 body scrub 😘😘😘😘Every day 3 girls cici.Jessica sexy body very good body slide.
  38. NewOriental:
    WEDNESDAY at 🍏💚NEW ORIENTAL SPA💚🍏: HAPPY & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 647-381-2688 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. VIVIAN is a pretty and very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5’7” tall, with a slim figure. Vivian is very friendly and versatile.
  39. Peony Garden Spa:
    🌸3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY 🌸 JENNY: A TALL AND SLIM KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN 🌸 NANCY: A PETITE YOUNG VIETNAMESE GIRL THAT IS VERY FUN AND OPEN MINDED 🌸 EMILY: A PETITE CURVY THAI MIXED GIRL, NICE LONG HAIR AND SPEAKS FLUENT ENGLISH 🌸 PEONY GARDEN SPA 🌸 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 🌸 (416) 335-6093 🌸
  40. GoldenFlower:
    WEDNESDAY at 💛⭐🌟🌻 GOLDEN FLOWER SPA🌻 🌟⭐💛, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Elina(to 9pm), Jojo, Kelly(to 9pm) & Linda. After 9pm: Jessi & Sonia Elina(to 9pm) is a tall, slim & beautiful Persian lady with the ability to make you very satisfied. Jojo(to 9pm) is a beautiful young fair skinned Hong Kong girl who can melt all your cares away.
  41. ASPA:
    𝗪𝗘𝗗𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗗𝗔𝗬 at 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Amy, Coco & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Cindy, Kelly & Kiki. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Kelly is slim and attractive with very slight curves, a nice bum, and rockin’ services. Kiki is very attractive
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Bella & Sasa. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Bella is around 5’3” with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well
  44. Sparkling Spa:
    SPARKLING SPA WITH NEW GIRLS AND NEW MANAGEMENT HAS SUPER SEXY GIRLS WAITING TO SATISFY YOU!!!☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  45. bumika.vashi:
    (((आपको बिना नाटक या नखरे करने वाला सर्विस चाहे तोह याद करना. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to
  46. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    💗💗💗 ℍ𝔸ℙℙ𝕐 𝕄𝔸𝕐 💗💗💗🌟🌟🌟 MAY 8th , WEDNESDAY 🌟🌟🌟 ☎️ (905) 707-6866 🕙🌟🌟🌟Open 10:30-10:00🗺#33-160 East Beaver Creek 🗺 7 Rms 🛏🌟🌟🌟Table Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, 🌟🌟🌟$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min 🌟🌟🌟Attendants: We have 6️⃣ today 🍀🍀🍀 🌹🆕 TINA 🌹SOPHIE 🌹🆕 RICA 🌹 🆕 HANNAH 🌹 ERICA 🌹 LUCY 🍀🍀🍀 NEWSFLASH 🍀🍀🍀 🆕 RICA & 🆕 HANNAH & ERICA & 🆕 TINA & SOPHIE ‘ s BACK 🍀🍀🍀 TODAY 🍀🍀🍀
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇New First Day Young Slim Sexy Vietnamese Lisa. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel & Young Sexy Chinese Abie. 6 Young Sexy Girls in right now!
  48. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Good service Asian girl Yuki today
  49. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699 We have 5 young girls for your enjoyment Tuesday . Judy - well proportioned model to bring toe curling fun Rina - petite beauty ready to rock your world Lucy- tall leggy beauty with nice figure Barbie - busty beauty with nice toes and services 💋new white Ana💋
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 MALIYA, SANA, ANGEL, PAYAL PEARL, ANAYA, AAVI 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
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