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What advice would the veterans give the young guys involved in this hobby?

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I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.
 
I don’t know how you can afford to eat and hobby on 55k. I would say save your money for property. I am on the high side of 250k and I still resent what I spend every month on the hobby. I’ve stopped almost entirely, only going to a fully legit lady once a week. I’ve known her for a few years and she’s the only one truly worth it. Spend your disposable income on something more constructive. Btw, I’ve been in the scene almost 4 decades.
 
Dont make friends with Krayjee and his 40 + handles.

The man is a Sociopath.
 
I don’t know how you can afford to eat and hobby on 55k. I would say save your money for property. I am on the high side of 250k and I still resent what I spend every month on the hobby. I’ve stopped almost entirely, only going to a fully legit lady once a week. I’ve known her for a few years and she’s the only one truly worth it. Spend your disposable income on something more constructive. Btw, I’ve been in the scene almost 4 decades.
well i live with my parents lol. my expenses are mainly my phone bill and presto card, and my job lets me work from home 3 days a week so i barely have any transportation expenses. lol i keep about 90% of my pay
 
well i live with my parents lol. my expenses are mainly my phone bill and presto card, and my job lets me work from home 3 days a week so i barely have any transportation expenses. lol i keep about 90% of my pay
Buy property as soon as you are able. Trust me on that.
 
Dont make friends with Krayjee and his 40 + handles.

The man is a Sociopath.

Lol are you peter66? whats up with people accusing others of being 1 person. you know this is the internet right ursus. alot of people have access to this stuff. me being krayjee is as true as you having a chinese wife.

LoL @krayjee am i doing it right?

Lord John
 
Buy property as soon as you are able. Trust me on that.

yep my parents said they'll help me with a down payment when i have enough to buy a place. this hobbying eats up about 200-500 a month which isnt much for me considering all my other expenses are low
 
Krayjee,

Go outside and make some friends.

It will help you tremendously.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can?
Your income typically goes up as you get older, but your cock won't work as well later on. Hobby as much as you can within your budget and schedule, while you still can.

And yes this hobby will change the way you look at girls moving forward. Civvies typically aren't as skilled in bed as professionals.
What would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.
Carry extra cash and an extra condom...
 
Dont wait for any prostitute.

Once she starts to delay the appt, leave and go fuck another whore.

And no 2nd chances.
 
only one of my friends in real life knows of my hobby participation and i tried to rationalize with him why i left my girlfriend and how this will make up for it, and he said it was a genius idea lol. he told me he'd do it as well if he had a good job. if your young making good money why stay tied down to 1 girl when you can go fuck a new one every week? maybe when i get more serious i will get back into a relationship in 2-4 years but i think i'd rather have some fun now and enjoy this time while it lasts
 
Do a lot of introspective reflection to watch for addiction. It's easy to get addicted. When you start feeling anxious and need to see a girl just to get off, that's a sign of addiction. Also, don't fall in love. Easiest is to do what you set out and see a different girl every week. But, eventually, you may start seeing a few regularly. So watch your emotional reactions.

55k a year is peanuts. Listen to Peter666 and others. Even if you living at home, save your money and buy property. Houses are freaking expensive these days. I really don't know how young people are expected to buy anything.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.

I started with one massage a month and moved up; sometimes I go 3-4 times a week.
do the math is a ton of money per year, I went from $1,200.00 at the beginning to a $24,000.00 last year

Yes, you have the "memories" but hey, you can't buy an ice cream cone with that.
Yes, this habit ruins your head, your perspective of women, your outlook on life

My Advice: Walk away from this fucking, disgusting hobby,
Save your $$$, set a target, buy a house, move in, then buy a second home, rent it
Pump you money into RRSPs, pay off your debt, pay off your CCs, you will see you have little money left to waste after covering all your expenses.

distract your self with other activities, travel, movies, family.

When you feel the urge to visit the whores. put the money into your savings. Once you see your money growing you'll want to make your stash bigger and bigger.

Walk away while you can
 
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Remember that these girls are PREDATORS. They see you as a MARK.

The only thing they want from you is your MONEY.

So, hobby close to home, for they will undoubtably play games on you and waste your time and travel costs. If you hobby close to home, you can lessen these costs. Trust me 100% - they will screw you around by bumping you, making you wait, flaking on you etc. They will try to cut corners during the appt, make excuses, lie and cheat/scam you out of your money.

Reduce your risks by playing smart.

No mattery what a Whore says to you, dont believe it. They Lie for a living, same as a politician does. They aren't your friend and they dont even care 1% about you as a person.

I have had Hookers try to threaten me with Police attention, claim I assaulted them, claim I threatened them etc. And in every case, I wasnt even in any contact with the girl whatsoever. They just make shit up right out of thin air in order to please their own devious emotions.

You have to be super careful when you interact with these Predators.
 
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Well... I started in the late 70's going to strip bars, then the internet came BOOM the whole industry changed...strip bars basically became your early body rubs. Then the massage parlours came about... topless at first then well everything. Then SP's became the norm. My advise to the new hobbiest would be to set a firm budget or you will be in trouble fast, also always use a cover even for a PS. Believe me if you don't it can change your life in a hurry.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.

I won't bore you with the whole "save your money and invest in property" crap because it all goes without saying. I'm doing fine now but was able to do this hobby when I was broke because we all need a few vices in life and going to MPs is better than drinking or smoking weed. Set a budget, find a few regulars and limit that list. I've never been the adventurous type but I've noticed that seeing one woman has considerably shrunk my budget as opposed to the time that I had to stash away several thousands of dollars on a bunch of 40/45-minute sessions so I could try as many girls as possible every week. Now I can get more out of this hobby by having unrushed 90-minute or 2-hour sessions twice or more a month with someone I trust. I suggest that you treat this hobby as a fantasy and not a means of attaining sexual gratification. Fuck! You're young! Use Tinder for sex! Let the fantasy from your MP experiences inspire you to find the right woman.
 
I won't bore you with the whole "save your money and invest in property" crap because it all goes without saying. I'm doing fine now but was able to do this hobby when I was broke because we all need a few vices in life and going to MPs is better than drinking or smoking weed. Set a budget, find a few regulars and limit that list. I've never been the adventurous type but I've noticed that seeing one woman has considerably shrunk my budget as opposed to the time that I had to stash away several thousands of dollars on a bunch of 40/45-minute sessions so I could try as many girls as possible every week. Now I can get more out of this hobby by having unrushed 90-minute or 2-hour sessions twice or more a month with someone I trust. I suggest that you treat this hobby as a fantasy and not a means of attaining sexual gratification. Fuck! You're young! Use Tinder for sex! Let the fantasy from your MP experiences inspire you to find the right woman.

I think I've just come around to this way of thinking. Reading these message boards and looking at the profiles of different girls, it makes the imagination run wild. I desperately wanted to try them all out and I've been going really hard lately, recently I went every fucking day for a week and even twice on one day. I actually got burned out, I thought what the hell am I doing this is supposed to be fun. I took a break for a week and had a 90 min session with my regular and it was perhaps the best session I've ever had. I guess I just had to get it all outta my system. Quality over quantity from now on.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.

We all need some loving care from some of these beautiful ladies, I been doing this since my separation
7 years ago. Take your time and don't rush things and most importantly read the reviews it brings up
The wow factor. As time goes on you'll make friends if your a gentleman of course, I brought out countless
Ladies for dinner afterwards with no up charge. This is always nice after sex. And one lady and I went
Away for week down south it was great waking up to a naked curvy body beside you. I've had my fill
Of relationships and also being married for 20 years. I prefer this with no expectations or commitments just pure sex and laughs. And don't think paying higher is better, that is not the the truth. Im pursuing one
Firecracker right now that I found on twitter, she has the body of a goddess and the service to match.
I was blown away when she told me it was 280 for the hr. I was for sure thinking it was 400.
Btw you can find real gems on Twitter. That you can talk to privately.
 
don't fall in love

they don't love you and will not love you
 
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    Tuesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: Eva & Helen. Eva is young, slim, innocent & demure looks, but don’t let her innocent looks deceive. She can massage & service very well. Helen is a sweet and very lovable Asian beauty with just enough curves to tease you, and an attitude to please you.
  30. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is on VACATION😢, and is expected to return around April 7😍. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5’1” and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage, bbbj & cfs.
  31. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801,/8131Yonge st #203 / 3hot Asian girl today
  32. Sunrise Health Centre:
    💄Crystal & Michelle are here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 💦 We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  33. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEEN ZOE NOW AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…BLASIAN ALIYAH & SEX GODDESS ZOE
  34. New Oriental Health Centre:
    Vivian & Happy are here today💄~📞Call 📲 Text: (647) 381-2688 💄 Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious 🍑 Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded 🤗 We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  35. bumika.vashi:
    AVAILABLE: NORTH EAST AND THAILAND GAL.LOCAL AND OTHER STATE AND BEAUTIFUL AUNTY,BHABI Ji. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to tell ur close frd's. Because your Su
  36. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    💗💗💗 ℍ𝔸ℙℙ𝕐 𝕄𝔸ℝℂℍ 💗💗💗🌟🌟🌟 MARCH 26th , 𝓣𝓤𝓔𝓢𝓓𝓐𝓨 🌟🌟🌟 ☎️ (905) 707-6866 🕙🌟🌟🌟Open 10:30-10:00🗺#33-160 East Beaver Creek 🗺 7 Rms 🛏🌟🌟🌟Table Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, 🌟🌟🌟$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min 🌟🌟🌟Attendants: We have 6️⃣ today 🍀🍀🍀 🌹🆕 LILIAN 🌹🆕 CHERRY 🌹 CRYSTAL 🌹🆕 SUNNY 🌹🆕 SOPHIE 🌹 LUCY 🍀🍀🍀 NEWSFLASH 🍀🍀🍀 🆕 LILIAN & 🆕 SOPHIE & CRYSTAL & 🆕 SUNNY & 🆕 CHERRY ‘ s BACK 🍀🍀🍀 TODAY 🍀🍀🍀
  37. Apexking:
    Moon Moon spa
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥SUPER HOT KOREAN SUMMER
  39. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on Monday:New white girl Ana young student,💋💋 Sabrina - Service queen with a banging body that is sure to make heads turn. Angel - innocent GND looks that has a very sensual side to warm things up Coco - Spunky fun in a nice package...
  40. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  41. Meadows Wellness Spa:
    💄Yoyo is here today. Call/Text: (905) 770-7555 😍 Yoyo is a 25 years old Petite Chinese Girl. She offers good massage & Extra services. Call NOW to Book...👄 Walk in @ 10225 Yonge Street In the heart of Richmond Hill.💥
  42. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .☎️4379857899 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  43. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ CAMILLA, KAJAL, LILY and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  44. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥KOREAN SUMMER AND SEX GODDESS ZOE🔥
  45. Sunrise Health Centre:
    💄Hanna is here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 💦 We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  46. New Oriental Health Centre:
    Happy is in today💄~📞Call 📲 Text: (647) 381-2688 💄 Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious 🍑 Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded 🤗 We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  47. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Cici😘A very beautiful and sexy little fangirl, she has a sexy and petite figure, Cici’s service is first-class, worth having and trying, she belongs to the elite👍She is very friendly, very cute and an exquisite little model. Mia😍 is beautiful part time student
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have young 4 beautiful girls are working today , young sexy open mind Tina and young cute Tiffany with big buttocks , pretty GFE Ella and friendly Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇Young Slim 19 Year old Sexy Brazilian Girl Julianna, Young Sexy Chinese Jessica, Slim Chinese Lisa
  50. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian girl and 2 Asian girl (new) in Monday
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