What credit card company do you use?

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My Propay account is up for renewal next month and I am considering switching to try and save some money on transaction fees...I just have the basic account right now and it's 3.5% of the sale plus 35 cents per transfer. I just spoke with a merchant company (I think it was Term Net or something) and their basic account is 3.25% of the sale, plus 27 cents per transaction and $12/month, but they have another account with a card machine (she said I could get one used for around $200) and it's $6/month plus 1.49% of the sale and 25 cents each transaction.

My busiest month was December when I sold $1000 in GC and package sales, but in a normal month, it is under $300. Should I just keep the propay account? I don't have a phone line in my office and would just get a manual imprinter.
 


I also have ProPay, but their premium account. I bought a manual cc imprinter on Ebay for about $25.

If you go with the $12 a month deal, you will be paying $144 in fees no matter what. I am assuming that the charge is monthy even if you don't have any transactions. That is how most companies seem to work.

I can see where ProPay is not ideal for businesses that process high volumes of credit cards, but I do like that aside from the yearly fee, (which is reasonable) you are not billed anything if you don't charge cards.

I would say if $300 is your average, stick with them until you start charging more. Maybe consider the premium account? http://propay.com/account/

Your transaction fees will go down a bit and you will be able to charge cards via the phone and accept Discover and AMEX. Your processing limit would also increase.

Good luck.
 


hey rebecca, you shouldn't being paying more than about 1.7 - 1.9% if you're using a cc company other than propay. usually it's about 1.79%, 25 cents transaction, 25 cents batch out and between $5 & $10 a month. i'll look at mine and see what company i use. by the way, do not lease a machine through any company. it's so cheaper to buy. they try to get you to lease 'cause that's where they'll make their money. ps. talk to your bank. they usually have someone they work with who can maybe get you a better deal.
 


Actually the company I talked to yesterday was through my bank! I was hoping for some better rates from them, which is why I opened up a business account in the first place!
 


Quickbooks Merchant Services.

You never have to reconcile the service charges and deductions - that alone is worth the higher %
 


RelaxandRejuvenate said:
Quickbooks Merchant Services.

You never have to reconcile the service charges and deductions - that alone is worth the higher %

quickbooks services look a little too expensive to me. a $60 set-up fee, $17.95 a month and a monthly minimum? and equipment starts at almost $300. i wouldn't use this company.

hey rebecca, i went through a guy from someone's bni group. he was really wonderful. i felt bad because he really didn't make any money from me but he was so helpful. i remember his name was mike. i'm going to go to my bank tomorrow and get his number from the girl there. maybe he can help you too. he has a choice of different companies to go through. he picks the best for you and your needs. i think i use bancard but can't remember. i should remember 'cause i just looked at it today for you!

if you're a member at costco they have merchant processing too. in fact, i'm considering switching to them. they have better deals if you're an executive member. it's easy to upgrade and in the end, doesn't really cost you any extra money (to upgrade that is-). and it's a write-off!

here are their features -
Program Features
Accept Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover, debit cards and corporate purchasing cards.**
$4.95 monthly statement fee - waived for Executive Members
One time $25 application fee - waived for Executive Members
Live customer service 24-hours a day / 7-days a week
Free basic online merchant account access
No batch fees

here is a link to their site... http://www.novainfo.com/costco/index.asp
 


http://merchantwarehouse.com/

I use these folks. 1.69% plus .25 per transaction, and $9.95 per month. No contract to sign up for, I have been on a month to month with them from day one. I bought a refurbished CC machine from them (cost me about $120.00) I have had NO problems. Whichever route you take, dont rent a machine. Find a used one,, get one from ebay....will save you $$.
 


I suppose it depends on the volume.

We do 80 - 100 transactions a month, and it is all integrated into the QB software. Repeat clients are entered once then we just charge them every appt.

Reconciling the deposits - when the fees are deducted - with the gross charges registered was such a headache
 


Not fond of Merchant Warehouse myself. Once I was using their system it became impossible to get any customer service from them.

Also, their lowest rate is 1.69%, but most cards charge at a much higher rate, (mine was at 3.something% for all "rewards" or mileage type cards.) And the way they had the paperwork it was impossibly to figure out what the charge was for each transaction. It all felt a little bait and switch to me.

Plus, it was a huge chore to get them to terminate my account. They charged me for several months after I switched. I called several times over a period of 6-7 weeks before they would even fax me the termination papers, then I had to pay an additional month on top of that. Plus they charged me the statement fee one more month beyond that. When I called to correct that problem, it took forever for them to sort it out. They did reimburse that last month extra fee, but it took about 60 days to get the check.

Not impressed with them beyond their effectiveness in getting you signed up.

I now use Nova through Costco. Yes, there is a contract. But it's a good program, easy to decipher and the mid-level cards process at 1.8%, so not much of a hit. I have a $20 minimum processing fee, but no statement fee and no batch fees. I did about $700 in credit card sales for January, and expect my total bill to be less than half what it was costing me for MW.
 


Breathe,

What happens if you don't make the $20 minimum? Say you had no charges one month?
 


I just got in contact w/ my bank. They said they could either beat my current rate, OR give me $50.00. Either way, its worth finding out!
Thanks for the heads up about Merchate Warehouse when trying to terminate an account. When the time comes, I will make darn sure to let my bank know they no longer have authorization do take out their monthy fee! I have never had problems with them, but if I want to terminate the account, i dont want all that stress! THANKS! :}
 


Still costs $20, but it would have cost me $8 anyways for the statement fee from MW. Since switching to Nova about 5 months ago, I've saved about $125, AND I know exactly where my charges are. Plus bookkeeping is much easier since they deposit the entire transaction amount, then charge all the fees in one lump sum at the beginning of the next month.

I usually do between $600- $900 in credit card sales, so it's usually between $20-24 total charge, since the fees are low. When I was with MW, I'd pay about $18 in the immediate fees that they'd take off the top of every transaction, then I'd have another $18-23 in fees that would be on the statement, plus the $7.95 statement fee.

If you look back in my poster history, you can see I was pretty rah-rah about MW in the beginning, since they were so responsive in getting me set up, low cost of entry, and all of that. The longer I was with them, though, the more I realized I was getting gouged. My officemate has pro-pay or cellcharge, not sure which, but we compared costs, and she was paying about the same amount in fees as I was per month, but averaging about $300-400 more in sales.

For instance, in the month of June last year, (which is about the sales average I currently have,) my fees with MW were $53.93. By August I had switched to Nova, had an even higher volume of CC sales, and my fee (single charge bill, one transaction,) was $21.50. This has been typical.

Of course, having this account means you have a Costco membership, I have the exec membership, which costs $100 instead of $45. Exec membership means they waive the statement fees of $4.95 a month. Between the cash rebate, and the statement fees being waived, I figure the actual cost of my membership is around $22/year. I would have had the $45 membership anyways, so I come out ahead.

Whew. That was alot of numbers. hehe.
 


Nova does sound like a great deal!

You do have to have electronic equipment to use their service though right?

I am using ProPay now and while you don't need any equipment, I bought a manual swiper just for my own peace of mind and record keeping.

I currently process a pretty small amount each month.
 


Yes, you need to have equipment, and since this is the single largest expense, you need to figure where your break-even point is. I had a terminal from MW, but it was not security ready for NOVA, their software is more current. I had to swap mine out, and it cost $80.

If you had to purchase equipment, count on spending a minimum of $250 for a terminal equipped to work with their system. Also, be absolutely sure that if you buy from a 3rd party vendor, the machine you buy is compatible.
 


i'll add a little something about costco's executive membership. it does cost extra but you earn money back. if you don't earn back the difference it costs to upgrade, they'll give you a refund of the difference. did i say that so it makes sense? so a regular membership will cost you $45. you upgrade paying an extra $55 for a total of $100. if you don't earn at least $55 in rewards, they'll give you a check for the difference (so that you aren't really paying extra for the exec. membership). it's such a smart thing to do. especially if you purchase lots of stuff there! you get all the perks of the exec. membership and you earn money back. couldn't ask for more!
 


If anyone needs a CC machine, we have two of them. $150 for either, delivered.

Verifone Tranz 330 - two years old. Hooks up to any number of printers

Hypercon with the built in printer (not thermal, a ribbon printer) - about 5 years old
 


Thanks for all of the responses everyone! I got a call from someone the other day from an online quote I filled out and he said that for as little volume as I do right now, I'm better off sticking with propay, so I'll probably just do that for now until I'm swimming in CC sales :)
 
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    FRIDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: ANGELA, KELLY & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ ANGELA is a slim pretty lady from China, with natural boobs, slim waist and grabbable ass. KELLY is a young & pretty Asian girl, very slim model figure, 5โ€™3โ€ with unreal bbbj skills & very liberal services. TINA is a Vietnamese girl
  32. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Tina 35 years old with curve body and young pretty student Summer 30 years old , sexy Coco and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  33. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Mia, Nana & Sasa. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves. She can bbbj like a queen, & is open to dfk & cfs.
  34. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Young Slim Sexy Chinese Yoyo, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  35. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธCindy & Lina Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did.
  36. gold__rose__spa:
    ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿต at 1536 Warden Avenue ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’Friday, ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’‹ Nana, ๐Ÿ’‹ small in stature, slim and fit. A very pretty girl, does a relaxing treatment and fantastic finish. ๐Ÿต Fifi, a strong, full body... ๐ŸŒน ๐Ÿ“ณ 647 346-8086๐Ÿ“ณ
  37. Flowers Spa:
    โœฐ BLUEXADO SPA โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6 Vaughan ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Hanna from Vietnam, young and good energeticโ€ฆGreat Service...๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ELLY | KELLY (age 21) is Vietnamese Chinese. She is 5'6" tall, has a slender build, and possesses an energetic personality...Available treatments include...๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH | LINDA a 21-year-old Vietnamese, offers comfortable and professional full-body treatments.๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณMIMI | CANDY (New) 19Yrs Vietnamese beautiful face, very friendly...Must See...@ BLUE
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Vicy and Jenny Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas W Etobicoke Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  39. Pink Flower Spa:
    โœฐ 416.299.5515 โœฐ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ Mandy | Mady (New) Indian | Filipino 19Yrs, hair to shoulder, pretty face...Nice Service...๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Hanna from Vietnam, young and good energeticโ€ฆGreat Service...๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULLIE | JESSIE a 19-year-old Chinese and Vietnamese woman, provides exceptional service with her youthful beauty...๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ง A talented Girl from Lebanon is joining our team, bringing with her a unique set of skills and a fresh perspective....Details to be reveal
  40. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธMALIYA, RAVEN, NINA, PAOLA, ANGEL, AAVI, PAYAL PEARL, SANA, KIRAN๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  41. dave guhan:
    ๐Ÿ’‹ ALEX is back! ๐Ÿ’‹ HOT BLONDE UKRAINIAN GIRL ๐Ÿ’‹ 4 hands massage available only $40 ๐Ÿ’‹ Open until 9pm ๐Ÿ’‹ 608 THE QUEENSWAY ETOBICOKE ๐Ÿ’‹ 416-354-2009 ๐Ÿ’‹
  42. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Thursday๏ผšNew girl Judy ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ Vittoria- Sweet school girl with a large serving of naughtiness Angela- Slim beauty with long legs and nice proportions Julia- Exotic...
  43. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  44. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Anika , New Young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tiffany,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต
  45. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, HANA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  46. Birchmount&14th:
    THURSDAY at ๐๐ˆ๐‘๐‚๐‡๐Œ๐Ž๐”๐๐“ & ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’๐ญ๐ก: JESSIE & YUKI. Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐ โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐—๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—˜ is a slim and very lovely Asian girl with massage skills of the highest degree. ๐—ฌ๐—จ๐—ž๐—œ is here today to provide an amazing professional massage. We are open 24 Hours daily. We have clean rooms and plenty of free parking.
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at Sugar Love Spa: Angela, Hana, Jennifer & Tiffany. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž 437-365-2688 โ˜Ž ANGELA(9pm-5am) is new today. Details later... HANA(9pm-5am) is a slim, sexy & very liberal Mexican lady with incredible services. JENNIFER is friendly and service oriented. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim
  48. Moon203:
    MoonMoon/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Good service Cuban girl Mimi and 36F big tits BoBo in Thursday
  49. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
  50. KSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: ADA, VICKY, KELLY & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ ADA is 23, 5โ€™4โ€ and 120 Lbs, sweet and sexy with a nice 36C bust and great services. VICKY is 21, Korean, 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs, with a cute pretty face, good service, & nice 34B pillows to comfort you. KELLY stands 5โ€™3โ€ & weighs 110 Lbs, with nice 34D's
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