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Question Going rate?

If my hand is on the edge of the table and they grind their crotch on it, well, that's a pretty positive sign. Otherwise, I ask.

Or when they tuck their crotch in hard against my feet hanging over the back end of the table..tucking in either foot between the inner thighs. It's also an effective arousal technique.

For home based masseuses, an all in price for either an hour or a 90m massage is an excellent way to retain the clients they want to keep. Say, $110 for an hour, and $135 for 90m. Win-win. And the HE can be tailored to be a YMMV experience based on personal connection. Varying from very basic to some degree of mutuality.


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If my hand is on the edge of the table and they grind their crotch on it, well, that's a pretty positive sign. Otherwise, I ask.
I will second that. Happened to me with, what I was told, was a VERY legit provider a few years back.
She did a little groin grind against my hand and I twitched my finger about 2mm as a test. She giggled, grabbed my wrist, shoving my hand between her thighs, and basically straddled my hand, rubbing back and forth, while giving me a fantastic milking reverse hand job.
I’m positive that if I had come on too strong, I would have walked out empty.
Instead, I walked out….well….empty!

I find less is more.
 
Or when they tuck their crotch in hard against my feet hanging over the back end of the table.
I usually have my arms hanging off the sides when face down. Sometimes they will strategically start rubbing my shoulder blades and hump my elbow ever so gently...
 
Many are now asking $80 for the hour and $60 for the ending. I stick to those charging $40 for the ending. $120 total is my max budget

Can you please share the ones for $120 for those with $40 for the ending. Private message would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
This has always been a question for me as well- If we go to an establishment that charges $80 for a massage and provide a 40-60-80-100 dollar "tip" for services, are we expected to tip an independent lady who works out of her own home who asks for the exact same fees (equal to $80+tip payed to AMP)? It seems to me that we should be paying less as the independent lady pays no income tax, EI, business tax, GST, license fees, etc.- AND what we are paying them includes the tip that we would pay an AMP.
 
I don't pay less with a lady working from home. Massage is the only difference where the lady pays the room fee. Which is around $30.

But now she has to provide and do her own laundry, perhaps buy the massage table, soaps shampoos, towels etc.

With no parlor interruptions, I find a good home rmt/happy ending can be far more beneficial so reducing pay for me is a non-issue
 
I feel that your dealing with a masseuse no matter where they work. You pay for the service that suits your needs, and budget, maybe you can't afford the better ladies so expect to get what you pay for.
 
I don't pay less with a lady working from home.
??? Still not answering my question. So- if you paid $200 'all-in' at a parlor you would pay the same at an independent?
 
I don't pay less with a lady working from home. Massage is the only difference where the lady pays the room fee. Which is around $30.

But now she has to provide and do her own laundry, perhaps buy the massage table, soaps shampoos, towels etc.

With no parlor interruptions, I find a good home rmt/happy ending can be far more beneficial so reducing pay for me is a non-issue
I also do not mind paying a home based RMT $ 80.
Her diploma cost her 25 K +
Her business license cost $ 1400.00 per year . In Calgary
As per Bob Laundry, Massage table soaps towels etc
And the best part is, if you have insurance .
 
??? Still not answering my question. So- if you paid $200 'all-in' at a parlor you would pay the same at an independent?
mighty mighty pleasin pappys corn squeezin !! NOW no more clownin..recently i have been asked for 180 for full service with an asian independant...at places like fort rd e.g. i have asked for 45 mins and it was 200...at new places i expect to pay between 140 and 200 for a range of services..only once i was asked for 300 by massage by jane..all the others have been reasonable..as for choice between parlours/independants the parlours seem to have a set plan of action and some even use the exact same terms e.g. "oh i came first this time"..the independants are more flexible but all are ymmv
 
mighty mighty pleasin pappys corn squeezin !! NOW no more clownin..recently i have been asked for 180 for full service with an asian independant...at places like fort rd e.g. i have asked for 45 mins and it was 200...at new places i expect to pay between 140 and 200 for a range of services..only once i was asked for 300 by massage by jane..all the others have been reasonable..as for choice between parlours/independants the parlours seem to have a set plan of action and some even use the exact same terms e.g. "oh i came first this time"..the independants are more flexible but all are ymmv
IT SHOULD BE 120.00 FLAT FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE ROOF.
 
Forget trying to set a "standard rate", the fact is a tip should always be based on the offering and quality of service. Sure the first time you should pay the requested rate, if the service is not there you simply don't return. However good service should not only be encouraged but rewarded, otherwise the extra effort fades away. All too often providers get soured by cheapskates, or move to greener pastures. I recall that MIss V told me she preferred Calgary as the men in Edmonton were too cheap, I avoided falling into that generalization with her by always tipping generously. Sadly she eventually moved to Calgary
This is not a hobby where one should search out the lowest price, your not buying a fricking car.
 
You'd be amazed what they will accept. It's why they negotiate near the end when you're thinking with your little head. I like to try new places and stick to $40 tip for basic services and have never been rejected. If it's a horrible massage, bait and switch or I have zero attraction to the masseuse then I offer $20 and have never been rejected. Even if I was turned down it wouldn't matter because I would never go back to that masseuse. Completely different story for my regular masseuses, they do such a good job that I let them set the price and even then it's still in the $40 to $60 range.
 
You'd be amazed what they will accept. It's why they negotiate near the end when you're thinking with your little head. I like to try new places and stick to $40 tip for basic services and have never been rejected. If it's a horrible massage, bait and switch or I have zero attraction to the masseuse then I offer $20 and have never been rejected. Even if I was turned down it wouldn't matter because I would never go back to that masseuse. Completely different story for my regular masseuses, they do such a good job that I let them set the price and even then it's still in the $40 to $60 range.
in regards to the difference of generosity between the men in calgary and edmonton i lived in calgary for 35 yrs and yes i met my share of big talkin, big bullshittin, drug store cowboys down there who would like to throw around big cash whether they could afford it or not..i also met a caucaisian massage girl who laughed at taking a young soldier for a good chunk of change just before he left for iraq !!..im sure their are stories like that all over but i want to say that i enjoy the city and people of edmonton and i am proud to live here now..i hope both the customers and providers of massage in edmonton are all treated with respect, dignity and fairness
 
in regards to the difference of generosity between the men in calgary and edmonton i lived in calgary for 35 yrs and yes i met my share of big talkin, big bullshittin, drug store cowboys down there who would like to throw around big cash whether they could afford it or not..i also met a caucaisian massage girl who laughed at taking a young soldier for a good chunk of change just before he left for iraq !!..im sure their are stories like that all over but i want to say that i enjoy the city and people of edmonton and i am proud to live here now..i hope both the customers and providers of massage in edmonton are all treated with respect, dignity and fairness
My comment was not intended as a slight towards Edmonton, Have lived here for 40 odd years and love the city.
Just passing on what I was told, I am sure there are cheapskates in Calgary too
 
You'd be amazed what they will accept. It's why they negotiate near the end when you're thinking with your little head. I like to try new places and stick to $40 tip for basic services and have never been rejected. If it's a horrible massage, bait and switch or I have zero attraction to the masseuse then I offer $20 and have never been rejected. Even if I was turned down it wouldn't matter because I would never go back to that masseuse. Completely different story for my regular masseuses, they do such a good job that I let them set the price and even then it's still in the $40 to $60 range.
I am sorry if I am the only one to speak to this but FFS, are you saying you tip $20 when the level of attraction doesn’t meet your sophisticated scrutiny? That is the most offensive response I have seen in quite a while. Having said that I thought I blocked most of the the douchebags on this site but you just added to the list.
Just because the lady would rather not lose your pathetic chump change does not make it acceptable to treat her so poorly.
Gentlemen. $40 for basic extras is bare minimum. Accept it and stop trying to find a golden deal. FFS your lunch probably cost that much! Accept that having a complete stranger touching your junk is worth at least $40 and maybe the rest of us won’t have to deal with the poor attitudes from ladies who have to deal with cheap ass fools like yourself.
I will also point out that I have never tipped less than $50 and generally am $60+ because I have no misconceptions of what this is.
Holy fuck!
 
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Agree with Spexx. I've never gotten a basic finish for 20, used to use that as a starting point but got turned down immediately. Even 40 rairly worked. Can't be bothered trying to negotiate to achieve my satisfaction anymore, unless they are asking for a stupid amount of money. Generally if they ask what I'm willing to pay I offer 60 for basic and we move on from there 😁
 
Take a look at the service being provided. If one had to provide the expected service how would it effect your performance after an entire week, month , years? If you want better sometimes you get what you pay for. What price tag would you put on your own time ? If I go into a session knowing that there is no additional service it doesn't effect how I valued that effort. I tip well unless it is a terrible ordeal. Then I just do not repeat. Seldom have I found a session that was this bad. I still tip regardless .
 
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    SUNDAY at 💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: LULU, MIMI & YOYO. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ LULU is a well known Chinese attendant from another spa, very slim and beautiful with 34C Cups and incredible services. MIMI is a cute young Asian lady with a medium build,167Cms, 110Lbs, D CupS & very open minded services.
  36. Sparkling Spa:
    YOUNG GIRLS JENNIFER AND FOX WAITING TO BLOW YOU AWAY ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  37. SunriseRH:
    SUNDAY at SUNRISE SPA: MICHELLE, SUMMER. & TIANA 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 647-325-8086 ☎️ MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5’2” & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is a sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
  38. NewOriental:
    SUNDAY at 🍏💚NEW ORIENTAL SPA💚🍏: HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 647-381-2688 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5’4” and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets
  39. GoldenFlower:
    SUNDAY at 💛⭐🌟🌻GOLDEN FLOWER SPA🌻🌟⭐💛, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Jessi, Mila, Misa(to 7pm) & Sonia; After 7pm: Jojo Jessi is a slim and petite Vietnamese hotty who is garnering repeat visits. Mila is a young Korean hottie, curvy with with 34DD melons, fair skin, and nice services. Misa is a young, pretty & petite Vietnamese lady
  40. ASPA:
    𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝗔 𝗦𝗣𝗔: Be𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹, & Sophia 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ RACHEL is a petite & cute, 34C, 155Cms & 50Kg, very gentle & patient. She has good communication, massage & service. SOPHIA is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5’4”
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Amy & Jenny. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Don’t miss out on her special skills! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curved with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  42. bumika.vashi:
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  43. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    💗💗💗 ℍ𝔸ℙℙ𝕐 𝕄𝔸𝕐 💗💗💗🌟🌟🌟 MAY 5th , SUNDAY 🌟🌟🌟 ☎️ (905) 707-6866 🕙🌟🌟🌟Open 10:30-10:00🗺#33-160 East Beaver Creek 🗺 7 Rms 🛏🌟🌟🌟Table Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, 🌟🌟🌟$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min 🌟🌟🌟Attendants: We have 4️⃣ today 🍀🍀🍀 🌹🆕 DAISY 🌹SOPHIE 🌹🆕 TINA 🌹 🆕 CHERRY 🍀🍀🍀 NEWSFLASH 🍀🍀🍀 🆕 TINA & 🆕 CHERRY & 🆕 DAISY & SOPHIE ‘ s BACK 🍀🍀🍀 TODAY 🍀🍀🍀
  44. Sparkling Spa:
    YOUNG GIRLS SUMMER AND FOX WAITING TO BLOW YOU AWAY ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet open mind Yoyo and young pretty cute Ella, sexy Coco and fun GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇Young Fit Sexy Latina Karen, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel.
  47. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Turkish Persian girl Jasmine today
  48. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯💯💯 - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Apple😘 - Brand new girl from Taiwan
  49. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,🏠 address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  50. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lucky, Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
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