Failed Relationship with MPA

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… so, growing up, my nxt door neighbours = Korean 🇰🇷 & Viet 🇻🇳 … I watch them grow up… I date & make babies w Asians… u seriously think I cant tell Asian age? 🔍 🕵️‍♂️

Lotsa white guys like me… esp in T.O. … we no their age… & dont care.

A fit firm girl, whatever age, thats fun… if shes Asian, damn, even better… & yeah, some in 30s & even 40s… once they hit the big FIVE-Oh… most = past their best b4 date! :) … not all, actually…

But “out of shape, weathered women with baggage”? Not girls I visit … some of whom in their 40s 👍

Huge spectrum of women in the biz… legit mpas that occasionally do HJ… 2 restrictv semilegit who gets mebbe topless… all the way to holistic mpas who mostly skip msg part… wide wide range… sure as hell, thnkng “theyre all ho’s” … thats naive

All = gd candidates 4 FWB fun… but I wouldnt date any…

tldr. I can't make heads or tails of your posts so I'll just respond to the first line.

Yeah I say that you can't cause when you find out the real age of these working girls you're off by 10-20 years in most cases. Just because you have an Asian neighbor that makes you adapt at gauging ages in general? You seeing them grow up in real time is different from seeing some random girl in the spas. I live besides dozens of Persians, does that mean I speak Farsi cause I hear it?

Working girls lie about their stated age all the time. It's not even relatively close to what you expect.
 
Ah yellow fever problems, don't have those. You wouldn't have to worry about an asians age if you don't see asians247.gif
 
If you think Asian women in their 30's and 40's are wrinkled bags of skin, then it just goes to show you need to get out more lol.

You do realize most Asian women look younger than other nationalities, right? So if you like girls in their 20's, what do you think an Asian woman in her 30's look like?

Dude, the more you talk, the more obvious it becomes that you don't know what you're talking about. Oh, they're in their 40's so they must be career hoes lol. Please...just stick with what you know about and don't "assume" you know about the other side of this business which you yourself admit you don't frequent.

This thread isn't about the style of massage. It's about having a relationship a sex worker. Where you find them doesn't matter; its the mentality of women that have no choice but to do this for a living so their mindset isn't that of a normal civilian. Even worse if you're seeing a girl 40+ cause now they're career hoes. You can believe what she tells you about not doing extras, or seeing others besides you and giving them more mileage but its apparent to me and others that they lie about their situation more often that none. If we're talking about FWBs then that's been discussed to death too but the thread is focused on actually dating them in my eyes.

Well that's just gross in my mind. If I'm 50 I don't want to be seeing someone my age cause it's just not a pleasing sight, but if you like seeing wrinkled bags of skin that has lost all its youth then sure, go for it. I would keep going for girls in their 20s till I find one that's okay with an older guy.
 
If you think Asian women in their 30's and 40's are wrinkled bags of skin, then it just goes to show you need to get out more lol.

You do realize most Asian women look younger than other nationalities, right? So if you like girls in their 20's, what do you think an Asian woman in her 30's look like?

Dude, the more you talk, the more obvious it becomes that you don't know what you're talking about. Oh, they're in their 40's so they must be career hoes lol. Please...just stick with what you know about and don't "assume" you know about the other side of this business which you yourself admit you don't frequent.

Says the guy in his 60's. I'm Asian, I've only dated Asians. When they hit their 30s there's a distinctive distance between in their looks from their 20s and 30s and you would know this if you spent time seeing them grow up over the years through social outings like clubs and parties.

I'm more than aware how Asians look. Most people think I'm low 20s when I'm mid 30s, my sister is my mom and my mom is my sister so yeah I say others have horrible gauge of understanding the age of Asians.

Don't be salty cause I'm ragging on your hoe for having kids. If you like it then good for you but by no means is she young. I don't need to frequent spas to know people in general. The majority of girls I see are SPs and SBs so I don't need to focus on the leftovers as spas.
 
What makes you think I'm in my 60's? And what makes you think I didn't also grow up with Asians my whole life?

You are paying for sex because I guess you can't get that elsewhere...lots of semi guys pay for the "massage" with the happy ending just a bonus.

No one is salty, just trying to explain to you that not everyone goes to a spa looking for sex. You know how much an RMT massage cost these days? How much do you think a massage at a semi legit place with HE costs? And if you know who to see, you can easily get an RMT quality massage.

Like I said, stick with what you know...


Says the guy in his 60's. I'm Asian, I've only dated Asians. When they hit their 30s there's a distinctive distance between in their looks from their 20s and 30s and you would know this if you spent time seeing them grow up over the years through social outings like clubs and parties.

I'm more than aware how Asians look. Most people think I'm low 20s when I'm mid 30s, my sister is my mom and my mom is my sister so yeah I say others have horrible gauge of understanding the age of Asians.

Don't be salty cause I'm ragging on your hoe for having kids. If you like it then good for you but by no means is she young. I don't need to frequent spas to know people in general. The majority of girls I see are SPs and SBs so I don't need to focus on the leftovers as spas.
 
What makes you think I'm in my 60's? And what makes you think I didn't also grow up with Asians my whole life?

You are paying for sex because I guess you can't get that elsewhere...lots of semi guys pay for the "massage" with the happy ending just a bonus.

No one is salty, just trying to explain to you that not everyone goes to a spa looking for sex. You know how much an RMT massage cost these days? How much do you think a massage at a semi legit place with HE costs? And if you know who to see, you can easily get an RMT quality massage.

Like I said, stick with what you know...

From your previous posts and the fact you would consider seeing 50 and 60 year olds. You're definitely not young to say the least. Growing up around Asians and being one is different. I've been raised around black people, does that make me pseudo black enough to know the cultural differences and have a black card. Of course not.

lol the pot calling the kettle black again shit. So you're better cause you go out and pay women to touch you? but won't stick your dick in them cause that's immoral.

I've been doing this stuff for 20+ years so I know well experienced in this industry to know what I know. Younger women will do sex work cause their image and body command it. Once that fails they'll resort to spas cause they can't compete with the younger girls. It's a skin business and to think that women don't maximize on that when they can is asinine. I think you should venture out of spas to understand what other girls are in this business. Most of you guys don't understand the scope of the girls that come into this industry cause all you see are the weathered goods that can't make it in the mainstream.
 
Lol, go back and read again...I never said I like to see ladies in their 50's and 60's. And what makes you think I'm not Asian?

There are many many semi legit ladies in their 40's that are not career hoes. Like I said, if you don't go to semi places, don't assume to know their life stories...

The fact that you think these semi ladies started their careers working in holistic places and then transitioned to semi later on in life pretty much says it all about your "experience"...


From your previous posts and the fact you would consider seeing 50 and 60 year olds. You're definitely not young to say the least. Growing up around Asians and being one is different. I've been raised around black people, does that make me pseudo black enough to know the cultural differences and have a black card. Of course not.

lol the pot calling the kettle black again shit. So you're better cause you go out and pay women to touch you? but won't stick your dick in them cause that's immoral.

I've been doing this stuff for 20+ years so I know well experienced in this industry to know what I know. Younger women will do sex work cause their image and body command it. Once that fails they'll resort to spas cause they can't compete with the younger girls. It's a skin business and to think that women don't maximize on that when they can is asinine. I think you should venture out of spas to understand what other girls are in this business. Most of you guys don't understand the scope of the girls that come into this industry cause all you see are the weathered goods that can't make it in the mainstream.
 
Lol, go back and read again...I never said I like to see ladies in their 50's and 60's. And what makes you think I'm not Asian?

There are many many semi legit ladies in their 40's that are not career hoes. Like I said, if you don't go to semi places, don't assume to know their life stories...

Don't need to. The fact you justify others seeing them shows the spectrum of what you would consider. If you were Asian then you would say it instead of hiding behind these question to answer a question statements. Plus who even uses WeChat to talk to girls anymore; that alone shows me how old she is. She obviously has a grasp of the English language so why not text normally, there's no reason to use auto translate. Or she's using the app to hide the fact she's seeing you on the side from others and you're not as close to her as you think you are.

One anecdotal situation on your behalf isn't going to shift my opinion of the women in this industry as a whole. If you're 40+ touching men then you can't get a regular job so that's career hoe in my eyes.
 
I'm asking the questions to highlight how easy it is to make the wrong assumptions about people...

Also, the fact that you have to ask about using something like WeChat instead of normal texting again shows your inexperience in this hobby...

Anyways, no sense arguing anymore. Keep enjoying paying for sex with those SPs and SBs...peace.


Don't need to. The fact you justify others seeing them shows the spectrum of what you would consider. If you were Asian then you would say it instead of hiding behind these question to answer a question statements. Plus who even uses WeChat to talk to girls anymore; that alone shows me how old she is. She obviously has a grasp of the English language so why not text normally, there's no reason to use auto translate. Or she's using the app to hide the fact she's seeing you on the side from others and you're not as close to her as you think you are.

One anecdotal situation on your behalf isn't going to shift my opinion of the women in this industry as a whole. If you're 40+ touching men then you can't get a regular job so that's career hoe in my eyes.
 
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The fact that you have to ask about using something like WeChat instead of normal texting again shows your inexperience in this hobby...

Anyways, no sense arguing anymore. Keep enjoying paying for sex with those SPs and SBs...peace.

lol sure. Again don't be salty cause I know this game more than you. We all use different apps to hide secret conversations from others that can see our phone and the fact you don't have her personal number shows where you stand. Keep viewing the world behind your rose colored glasses thinking you're the only one in her life and you're her best friend but when the harsh reality kicks in like most have seen in this thread don't be surprised.

No problem there. I will enjoy my vice grip pussy versus you throwing hotdogs down a tunnel.
 
See this is the problem in the first place...once again, you are making the assumption that I think I'm the only one in her life, or that I even care. How do you know I don't have their personal numbers and that it's not me that insists on using WeChat? Have you got burned that many times to have such a cynical view?

Like I said early on in this thread, why do you think in a 'dating' scenario, the MPA always has the upper hand and that the guy must be some white knight sucker? Only guys that have been burnt badly in the past think this way...

Haha, enjoy that vice grip pussy. I'm more in it for the massage anyways 😉


lol sure. Again don't be salty cause I know this game more than you. We all use different apps to hide secret conversations from others that can see our phone and the fact you don't have her personal number shows where you stand. Keep viewing the world behind your rose colored glasses thinking you're the only one in her life and you're her best friend but when the harsh reality kicks in like most have seen in this thread don't be surprised.

No problem there. I will enjoy my vice grip pussy versus you throwing hotdogs down a tunnel.
 
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See this is the problem in the first place...once again, you are making the assumption that I think I'm the only one in her life, or that I even care. Have you got burned that many times to have such a cynical view?

Like I said early on in this thread, why do you think in a 'dating' scenario, the MPA always has the upper hand and that the guy must be some white knight sucker? Only guys that have been burnt badly in the past think that way...

Haha, enjoy that vice grip pussy. I'm more in it for the massage 😉

Of course. I've dated 3 SPs when I was younger and not like this FWB nonsense that most allude to when they're still paying for it outside of the spa. I'm talking about living together, talking about future, etc. so I've seen the scope of dating these women and in the end its not worth it. But others think their situation is so unique that they'll never fall into the problems other have voiced but let them get burned themselves to know the reality of the situation. When I first started I've viewed them as most of you do as innocent creatures without a bad bone in their body but it's a lie in the end. They know how to manipulate men as well as any other hustler.

So you learn to the play the game back at them and know where you stand before you really embark on the path of having a relationship with a sex worker.
 
You're not their dad...let them learn the hard way.


Of course. I've dated 3 SPs when I was younger and not like this FWB nonsense that most allude to when they're still paying for it outside of the spa. I'm talking about living together, talking about future, etc. so I've seen the scope of dating these women and in the end its not worth it. But others think their situation is so unique that they'll never fall into the problems other have voiced but let them get burned themselves to know the reality of the situation. When I first started I've viewed them as most of you do as innocent creatures without a bad bone in their body but it's a lie in the end. They know how to manipulate men as well as any other hustler.

So you learn to the play the game back at them and know where you stand before you really embark on the path of having a relationship with a sex worker.
 
The best FWB in my experience is with civi not MPA or SPs
SPs are super flaky and dip at any moment to go make money by letting some dude bang her. You can at least trust a civi. If a civi flakes, the chance are, she's actually doing something that doesn't involve banging other dudes.🤷
 
SPs are super flaky and dip at any moment to go make money by letting some dude bang her. You can at least trust a civi. If a civi flakes, the chance are, she's actually doing something that doesn't involve banging other dudes.🤷

Civilians still flake to see others that they're fucking around with too, its just which guy she likes better. My friend was juggling 4 guys at once for FWB but she's a slut so wasn't surprised. She was weighing her options for which guy she likes the most. But yeah, in general you can trust civilians more to not dip on a moments notice to go suck some dick for some money.
 
Good summary 👍

… so, growing up, my nxt door neighbours = Korean 🇰🇷 & Viet 🇻🇳 … I watch them grow up… I date & make babies w Asians… u seriously think I cant tell Asian age? 🔍 🕵️‍♂️

Lotsa white guys like me… esp in T.O. … we no their age… & dont care.

A fit firm girl, whatever age, thats fun… if shes Asian, damn, even better… & yeah, some in 30s & even 40s… once they hit the big FIVE-Oh… most = past their best b4 date! :) … not all, actually…

But “out of shape, weathered women with baggage”? Not girls I visit … some of whom in their 40s 👍

Huge spectrum of women in the biz… legit mpas that occasionally do HJ… 2 restrictv semilegit who gets mebbe topless… all the way to holistic mpas who mostly skip msg part… wide wide range… sure as hell, thnkng “theyre all ho’s” … thats naive

All = gd candidates 4 FWB fun… but I wouldnt date any…
 
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    💕💕Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave 💕💕☎️☎️416-840-0071❤️❤️
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    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet kitty 26’s slime open mind and young flirty Michelle 26’s with sexy body open mind,young sexy flirt Yoyo 36DD with curve body open mind 30’s and Cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. Jenny’s Spa:
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  49. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls serving today. Suki and water, they are both young, pretty, cute and good at massage.
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