Chat Despite wide spread opposition, Costa Rica legalized same-sex marriage yesterday.

[Wai0937]

Bud, you can't just lay there and let politicians make stupid laws. You have to speak out and tell them what is right from wrong.

Of course we all have to speak up. That’s why we vote and in return we get to change and amend laws that society has deemed old and draconian. It doesn’t minimize your voice; you have spoken and the majority of citizens disagree with your view and believe gays have a legal right to marry.

 

[snoopdoggie]

Of course we all have to speak up. That’s why we vote and in return we get to change and amend laws that society has deemed old and draconian. It doesn’t minimize your voice; you have spoken and the majority of citizens disagree with your view and believe gays have a legal right to marry.

If you remember correctly, the majority of Canadians didn't want same sex marriage legalized because the Paul Martin JR's Liberals were kicked out of power. I rest my case.

But Paul Martin already made it legal before the election. It was already too late. Read your history books.

 

[Wai0937]

If you remember correctly, the majority of Canadians didn't want same sex marriage legalized because the Paul Martin JR's Liberals were kicked out of power. I rest my case.

But Paul Martin already made it legal before the election. It was already too late. Read your history books.

I know my Canadian Parliamentary history quite well, and you citing same sex marriage as a defining reason Martin was unsuccessful is painfully ignorant and a testament to your severe lack of understanding of Canadian political and social history.

Never mind that at the time the bill became law, same-sex marriage had already been legalized by court decisions in all Canadian provinces except Alberta and PEI, as well as in the territories.

Paul Martin never recovered from the sponsorship scandal, and once the Gomery report came out, he was toast. Martin’s inability to strike a deal with the NDP over certain conditions the NDP wanted stemming from the Gomery report was the nail.

And since the Bill passed, not a single motion was ever filed to repeal the act by the Harper gov. They knew Canadians wanted this and it never ever became an election issue.

Read your history.

 

[snoopdoggie]

I know my Canadian Parliamentary history quite well, and you citing same sex marriage as a defining reason Martin was unsuccessful is painfully ignorant and a testament to your severe lack of understanding of Canadian political and social history.

Never mind that at the time the bill became law, same-sex marriage had already been legalized by court decisions in all Canadian provinces except Alberta and PEI, as well as in the territories.

Paul Martin never recovered from the sponsorship scandal, and once the Gomery report came out, he was toast. Martin’s inability to strike a deal with the NDP over certain conditions the NDP wanted stemming from the Gomery report was the nail.

And since the Bill passed, not a single motion was ever filed to repeal the act by the Harper gov. They knew Canadians wanted this and it never ever became an election issue.

Read your history.

Your wrong on several counts. Either you're really Dumb, or you're simply lieing.

In fact same-sex marriage was an election issue, but only after the Liberals rammed it through. The Liberals never mentioned it their election campaign, that's why Canadians didn't say anything about it, even though they were against it. They just didn't know it was on the Liberals agenda. And by the way, the Liberals are exactly the same today with Turdo. Some things just never change, do they? But when the next election campaign came along, the Conservatives and Canadian citizens expressed their displeasure over it.

I know politics better than you for one. And I didn't say that was sole reason why Martin lost his re-election bid. It was one of several. But Canadians, and the Conservatives made it a point that they were against same-sex marriage.

Marriage is under federal law, unlike in the U.S. where it is under state law. Provincial governments don't have the power to change Marriage laws in Canada.

Courts don't make or re-write laws, they only defend them. The real lawmakers are the politicians in parliament. The proposed laws go through the House of Commons and then need to pass senate. Those courts you were talking about, had no right to allow same sex marriage before becoming official law. Corrupt judges were siding with the federal Liberals, before the marriage law was changed.

An average of more than 60% of Canadians were against the Liberal's new same sex marriage law, across all polls.

Harper and the Conservatives have stated during the election campaign that they were against it, and they won the election.

Harper held a vote to repeal the marriage law in the House of Commons after his party won the election, which was narrowly defeated.

After Steven Harper became PM, the Liberals were struggling to keep their heads above water. They couldn't find anyone even close to competing with Harper.

Paul Martin Jr. was seeking a coalition government because he had a minority and wanted to stay in power, but he couldn't. After Harper won his first election, it was also a Minority government. That's why he couldn't defeat the new same-sex marriage law because the Liberals were in cahoots with the NDP. But Canadians were clearly against it.

When Steven Harper had his Minority government, the Liberals and the NDP, lead by the late Jack Layton, defeated Parliament and forced another election in order to get Harper out. But it actually backfired because Harper won a landslide majority government. And good for him. He was one of the best Canadian PMs ever.

There's no denying that Canada was built on Christian faith and values. And same-sex marriage goes against all Christian religions across the board. If you don't like Christian laws, then you can move to a non-Christian country. And that goes for Turdo too.

It seems your memory fails you miserably. That's ok though, because that's normal as one ages.

And P.S., your picture of Lou Ferrigno doesn't make you any tougher than what you are. Hah ha ha ha ha. Now go to sleep, bud. That was my lesson on Canadian politics for today.

 

[Wai0937]

Your wrong on several counts.

I know politics better than you for one. And I didn't say that was sole reason why Martin lost his re-election bid. It was one of several. But Canadians, and the Conservatives made it a point that they were against same-sex marriage.

Marriage is under federal law, unlike the States.

Courts don't make or re-write laws, they only defend them. The real lawmakers are the politicians in parliament. The proposed laws go through the House of Commons and then need to pass senate. Those courts you were talking about had no right to allow same sex marriage before becoming official law.

An average of more than 60% of Canadians were against the Liberal's new same sex marriage law, across all polls.

Harper and the Conservatives have stated during the election campaign that they were against it, and they won the election.

Harper held a vote to repeal the marriage law in the House of Commons after his party won the election, which was narrowly defeated.

After Steven Harper became PM the Liberals were struggling to keep their heads above water. They couldn't find anyone to even come close to competing with Harper.

Paul Martin Jr. was seeking a coalition government because he had a minority and wanted to stay in power, but he couldn't. After Harper won his first election, it was also a Minority government. That's why he couldn't defeat the new same-sex marriage law because the Liberals were in cahoots with the NDP. But Canadians were clearly against it.

When Steven Harper had his Minority government, the Liberals and the NDP, lead by the late Jack Layton, defeated Parliament and forced another election in order to get Harper out. But it actually backfired because Harper won a landslide majority government. And good for him. He was one of the best Canadian PMs ever.

There's no denying that Canada was built on Christian faith and values. And same-sex marriage is against all Christian religions across the board. If you don't like Christian laws, then you can move to a non-Christian country. And that goes for Turdo too.

It seems your memory fails you miserably. That's ok though, because that's normal as one ages.

And P.S., your picture of Lou Ferrigno doesn't make you any tougher than what you are. Hah ha ha ha ha. Now go to sleep, bud. That was my lesson on Canadian politics for today.

Your lack understanding recent history speaks to your lack of grasping of reality.

The conservatives lost the motion to revisit the bill by 175 to 123. You call that a slim margin? They never even had the conviction to revisit again with subsequent majority governments. They knew Canadians spoke loud and clear on this topic. Only folks like you can’t grasp it. If you think this will ever be revisited and/or repealed then by all means, keep clutching onto those pearls.

Since you continue to hold on to the notion that this country was founded on Christian values, what difference does it make in your argument when you hold on to none of those values you claim are the foundation of this country. You don’t even begin to come close to practicing those values.

And it’s no surprise that you continue your streak of being a laughingstock when you can’t even get the right name of my avatar right. Lou Ferrigno? LMAO. It’s Ricky Steamboat. Being wrong is your MO though. Keep it up. We’re all counting on you.

 

[krayjee]

Like it or not, the rainbow flags are up today at Queens park and city hall.

 

[snoopdoggie]

Like it or not, the rainbow flags are up today at Queens park and city hall.

Those flags don't mean anything. Any 3 year old can use crayons. The real flags are the official ones flying at the United Nations, kid.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha. You're so Dumb, with a capital D.

 

[Sybarite]

What makes you think Christian women were uneducated? Even in the middle ages, many women were educated, far more than in non-Christian cultures. Our society got its values from Christianity, rather than Islam or anything else.

Why? Because institutional academic education was the primary domain of men only for most of human history, whatever your religion. That's why almost all historical achievements in science, politics, the arts, etc. were almost entirely made by men prior to the 20th century, unless you want to make a claim this was due to the inherent superiority of men. Whatever the merits of Christianity, it does not have a great record for the rights and freedoms of women.

 

[snoopdoggie]

Why? Because institutional academic education was the primary domain of men only for most of human history, whatever your religion. That's why almost all historical achievements in science, politics, the arts, etc. were almost entirely made by men prior to the 20th century, unless you want to make a claim this was due to the inherent superiority of men. Whatever the merits of Christianity, it does not have a great record for the rights and freedoms of women.

I'm afraid you're missing a big point, or you simply don't know enough. Before the 20th century, about 80% of the population lived on farms. In those days, farms were run by families, unlike today, when most farms are run by big corporations. So, in order to run these family run farms, most girls stayed home and worked while most of the boys went to school. So, you are wrong when you're trying to imply that girls were not allowed to go to school, because society didn't want them to. That's not the reason at all. Life was totally different back then than it is today.

 

[Kraygee]

Those flags don't mean anything. Any 3 year old can use crayons. The real flags are the official ones flying at the United Nations, kid.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha. You're so Dumb, with a capital D.

This DUMBFUCK gives more respect to tyrannical countries like North Korea just because they have a flag at the UN. But judging by your history of ridiculous posts, it’s not hard to believe that you would respect totalitarian states that deny FREEDOM and LIBERTY.

Before the 20th century, about 80% of the population lived on farms. In those days, farms were run by families, unlike today, when most farms are run by big corporations. So, in order to run these family run farms, most girls stayed home and worked while most of the boys went to school. So, you are wrong when you're trying to imply that girls were not allowed to go to school, because society didn't want them to. That's not the reason at all. Life was totally different back then than it is today.

Hey dumbdumb, that’s exactly the point. Society CAN GO THROUGH A CHANGE. Just like marriage laws. I know you’re too dense to put it together, but try to keep up. Women were not considered persons back then. It took society to reform those laws. Again, totalitarian cunts like you can fuck right off. Anyone who hates freedom and the rule of law as much as you deserves to be mocked and ridiculed. And you’re making it so, so easy.

And please, crawl back in your safe space and hide behind your Christian values. Christianity has been a source of hatred, bigotry and hypocrisy since forever.

 

[snoopdoggie]

This DUMBFUCK gives more respect to tyrannical countries like North Korea just because they have a flag at the UN. But judging by your history of ridiculous posts, it’s not hard to believe that you would respect totalitarian states that deny FREEDOM and LIBERTY.




Hey dumbdumb, that’s exactly the point. Society CAN GO THROUGH A CHANGE. Just like marriage laws. I know you’re too dense to put it together, but try to keep up. Women were not considered persons back then. It took society to reform those laws. Again, totalitarian cunts like you can fuck right off. Anyone who hates freedom and the rule of law as much as you deserves to be mocked and ridiculed. And you’re making it so, so easy.

And please, crawl back in your safe space and hide behind your Christian values. Christianity has been a source of hatred, bigotry and hypocrisy since forever.

You're the Dumb Fuck. Everything I said is true. Women stayed home to work on the farms. It's not that were NOT allowed to go to school. The girls who were able to go to school, went. In those days, working on the farms was more important than going to school. No need to get upset just because you don't agree, or if someone is just correcting you. If you don't want to reason like a human being, then get off the forum, and mind your own business.

And you have no right to call me a bigot. I'm protecting the true meaning of marriage, and I'm trying to preserve marriage. You're the one who is the bigot because you're trying devalue marriage. It's idiots like you and the Liberals who are trying to destroy the institution of marriage and family.

 

[snoopdoggie]

This DUMBFUCK gives more respect to tyrannical countries like North Korea just because they have a flag at the UN. But judging by your history of ridiculous posts, it’s not hard to believe that you would respect totalitarian states that deny FREEDOM and LIBERTY.




Hey dumbdumb, that’s exactly the point. Society CAN GO THROUGH A CHANGE. Just like marriage laws. I know you’re too dense to put it together, but try to keep up. Women were not considered persons back then. It took society to reform those laws. Again, totalitarian cunts like you can fuck right off. Anyone who hates freedom and the rule of law as much as you deserves to be mocked and ridiculed. And you’re making it so, so easy.

And please, crawl back in your safe space and hide behind your Christian values. Christianity has been a source of hatred, bigotry and hypocrisy since forever.

The United Nations is an organization that strives to promote peace and friendship between nations. The rainbow flag only serves to divide people.

 

[snoopdoggie]

This DUMBFUCK gives more respect to tyrannical countries like North Korea just because they have a flag at the UN. But judging by your history of ridiculous posts, it’s not hard to believe that you would respect totalitarian states that deny FREEDOM and LIBERTY.




Hey dumbdumb, that’s exactly the point. Society CAN GO THROUGH A CHANGE. Just like marriage laws. I know you’re too dense to put it together, but try to keep up. Women were not considered persons back then. It took society to reform those laws. Again, totalitarian cunts like you can fuck right off. Anyone who hates freedom and the rule of law as much as you deserves to be mocked and ridiculed. And you’re making it so, so easy.

And please, crawl back in your safe space and hide behind your Christian values. Christianity has been a source of hatred, bigotry and hypocrisy since forever.

People like you have an agenda to destroy marriage and family. You have no right to destroy what is good and beautiful.

If you don't want to marry the opposite, then don't get married. There are lots of single people who choose not to get married. It's very simple. Use your head, you Dumb Fag!

 

[stripfan]

And please, crawl back in your safe space and hide behind your Christian values. Christianity has been a source of hatred, bigotry and hypocrisy since forever.

It sure is strange then that all the non-Christians want to move to Christian countries. No one is promoting bigotry for your fag friends, but they shouldn't be allowed to change the meaning of marriage because it's fundamental to our culture and to our understanding of what it means to be human.

 

[Kraygee]

You're the Dumb Fuck. Everything I said is true. Women stayed home to work on the farms. It's not that were NOT allowed to go to school. The girls who were able to go to school, went. In those days, working on the farms was more important than going to school. No need to get upset just because you don't agree, or if someone is just correcting you. If you don't want to reason like a human being, then get off the forum, and mind your own business.

I’m old enough to remember when it was traditional that we didn’t allow women the right to vote. We didn’t consider women to be persons until 1929!! I was 19 at the time - should we have broken such traditional use of the term? Should we have allowed women equal right?? According to bigotdoggie, trditi

The United Nations is an organization that strives to promote peace and friendship between nations. The rainbow flag only serves to divide people.

We get it. You are in favour of dictatorships. The only one dividing people is FAT fucks like you.

People like you have an agenda to destroy marriage and family. You have no right to destroy what is good and beautiful.

If you don't want to marry the opposite, then don't get married. There are lots of single people who choose not to get married. It's very simple. Use your head, you Dumb Fag!

LOL Dumb Fag!!! Noooooooo you’re not a hateful fucking bigot AL ALL.

Marriage. It’s so good and beautiful that married people will visit sex forums to share information regarding which MP will provide the best extras and which will FUCK. Yes, SO SACRED. I don’t need to destroy anything. Married people can destroy their own marriage all by themselves. What’s the rate of divorce in this country? Mmmmmm SO sacred!!!! s

Are you married? Of course not. No self respecting women would want to spend their life with an obese cunt like you. But let’s say you found a women that hates life and decided to marry your fat ass, you wouldn’t be promoting the beauty and sanctity of marriage.

 

[snoopdoggie]

It sure is strange then that all the non-Christians want to move to Christian countries. No one is promoting bigotry for your fag friends, but they shouldn't be allowed to change the meaning of marriage because it's fundamental to our culture and to our understanding of what it means to be human.

I agree exactly.
We have a bunch of idiots among us who want to destroy marriage and family in order to preserve freedom.

Saving the institution of marriage and family doesn't take away anyone's freedom. It actually strengthens communities, and the health and well-being of our children. And besides, we wouldn't have to import so many people from foreign countries. We can grow our people right here in Canada. What's wrong with that? It's a win, win for everybody.

We live in a broken society where things are just getting worse. Compare today's families to the families of 30-40 years ago. How many young families do you see that only have one parent? Too many. That just didn't happen much when I was growing up.

Some people just don't understand.

As I said before, if someone doesn't want to marry the opposite sex, then just stay single. There's no shame in being single. Many single people have productive lives, more so than some married people. There's married life, and then there's single life. Everyone has that right to choose how to live.

 

[Kraygee]

It sure is strange then that all the non-Christians want to move to Christian countries. No one is promoting bigotry for your fag friends, but they shouldn't be allowed to change the meaning of marriage because it's fundamental to our culture and to our understanding of what it means to be human.

We are fortunate that people like THIS cunt are not taken seriously. Sure, some small minds will listen and agree but reasoned human beings will always outnumber dweebs like this ugly snowflake.

 

[snoopdoggie]

It's people like Karaygee that would be the first in line to change the meaning of marriage even further, to include immediate family members as well. I bet he'd go as far as including humans and farm animals.

That's why tampering and not leaving well enough alone, opens up a whole new can of worms.

So, when you tamper with laws in order to relax them, where do you draw the line? They'll never be one. People will never be satisfied. They'll be a group of people demanding marriage between family members. Then after that, who knows?

Be careful what you wish for. Society is sliding down a dangerous slippery slope and we won't be able to stop.

 

[Sybarite]

Everything I said is true. Women stayed home to work on the farms. It's not that were NOT allowed to go to school. The girls who were able to go to school, went. In those days, working on the farms was more important than going to school.

OK so even though slavery was unfortunate it was necessary because there were no machines, and the reason why women didn’t go to school was because they all freely chose not to go because they were too indispensable to the farm.

But even in a primarily agrarian society men were not needed for farming at all, so they were the ones that got to be educated, vote, rule the world, make history and control everything. Now I get it. That’s the way the women wanted it!

Too bad you guys can’t time travel back to those farming communities when things were so much better and women, minorities and homosexuals were kept in their place.

 

[snoopdoggie]

OK so even though slavery was unfortunate it was necessary because there were no machines, and the reason why women didn’t go to school was because they all freely chose not to go because they were too indispensable to the farm.

But even in a primarily agrarian society men were not needed for farming at all, so they were the ones that got to be educated, vote, rule the world, make history and control everything. Now I get it. That’s the way the women wanted it!

Too bad you guys can’t time travel back to those farming communities when things were so much better and women, minorities and homosexuals were kept in their place.

Go get a DMC-12 with a flux capacitor!