Why YMMV and developing rapport...

[bigbill]

Prepare for a long post...lol

So I have a steady GF and we have a complicated but amazing relationship. She travels for work, a lot, and is gone sometimes for a couple of weeks at a time. When she's here, I'm exclusive to her, but not her to me. I'm a cuckold fetishist and she has sex with other men, mostly while I'm present. This satisfies me and her equally. She's over 50, but is attractive and has no issues finding younger (mostly late 20s to mid 30s) men that are attractive to fuck her. When she's gone, I'm free to visit massage parlours, and have on occasion had an "GF is away GF." For a few months now I've been seeing a woman that is a masseuse that provides pretty much just HEs to her customers, but occasionally more. She has no set "menu" and her response to each client is based on many things. Being a cuckold fetishist, this is amazing for me, as when my regular GF is away, my "other GF" tells me about the numerous sexual encounters she has with other men while we're having sex. So, why do some men get much farther with her than others?

1. Personal hygiene. This is her #1, by far, and we've heard this from other workers as well. If there's no shower where you're going, shower right before going, and wash everywhere, and wash well. Scrub. Then scrub again. Put on some deodorant and clean clothes. Seems odd that I'm typing this, but evidently this is a bigger issue than I was ware of.

2. Be respectful, especially of her personal space and let her set the boundaries. Guys that start asking for blowjobs before she's started the massage and aggressively grabbing her ass might get to finish their session, but she might not see them again, and if she does, they don't get nearly as far as other guys do. This is a huge turn off to her. You're a stranger. Come for a few sessions and let her get comfortable with you.

3. Understand not everyone is attracted to everyone. A few weeks ago she had an 18 year old guy come for a session. He looked so young she ID'd him. He seemed very sexually shy and perhaps inexperienced. He is pretty scrawny, pale, and not her usual type, especially being so young. But, she quickly found out he has the largest cock she's ever seen. Just massive. Way out of proportion to his body. She's a bit of a size queen and no way she was going to let him out the door without having it inside her. She loved his clumsiness and shyness and so she gave him FS on the first visit, something she's never done. She rarely ever has FS, and hasn't ever on the first visit. But, things just came together for this young guy and he got very, very lucky. So don't be offended if you're not getting "as far" as you'd like with someone, they just feel differently and have different triggers.desires than you do. We talk openly about our preferences, fetishes, and so on here, and understand the women we see are human and also feel that way.

4. Negotiation is fine, being resoundingly cheap is not. As I said, she doesn't have a set menu, etc, but does charge for extras. Some of her regulars have fallen on hard times with the pandemic and so she's willing to give them a break. Better to have them still see her for a slightly reduced price than not come for a session at all. Her prices are pretty standard, maybe a bit below average and she knows they're fair. So if you come and try to grind her down, this is a huge turn off. I was shocked at the number of guys that do this. At least a few a week that wants to pay $5, or nothing over the massage fee instead of $40-$60 depending on the service. And they often get VERY pissy about it. "You're making enough with the massage fee, get over it, you're lucky I'm here at all!" Don't be that guy.

Anyway, have to say that dating a masseuse that does extras has been a lot of fun for me. I've gained even further insights into the business, how it works, etc, and it feeds my cuckold fetish nicely. My regular GF is home today for a few weeks, so I'm back to "being faithful" for a little bit. Stay healthy everyone.

 

[Sector7g]

Nice tips!

Wonder how much that young guy paid for FS? And how long he lasted!

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[YEGPlumber]

Some of these points are pretty obvious, but then again I tend to overestimate the amount of civility most people have. If you feel comfortable in sharing your masseuse GFs identity, PM me. I've been looking for someone to go to on a regular basis.

 

[bigbill]

Some of these points are pretty obvious...

They're obvious to a lot fewer people that I thought based on what my lovely lover tells me, Sadly.

 

[Deleted member 72001]

Prepare for a long post...lol

So I have a steady GF and we have a complicated but amazing relationship. She travels for work, a lot, and is gone sometimes for a couple of weeks at a time. When she's here, I'm exclusive to her, but not her to me. I'm a cuckold fetishist and she has sex with other men, mostly while I'm present. This satisfies me and her equally. She's over 50, but is attractive and has no issues finding younger (mostly late 20s to mid 30s) men that are attractive to fuck her. When she's gone, I'm free to visit massage parlours, and have on occasion had an "GF is away GF." For a few months now I've been seeing a woman that is a masseuse that provides pretty much just HEs to her customers, but occasionally more. She has no set "menu" and her response to each client is based on many things. Being a cuckold fetishist, this is amazing for me, as when my regular GF is away, my "other GF" tells me about the numerous sexual encounters she has with other men while we're having sex. So, why do some men get much farther with her than others?

1. Personal hygiene. This is her #1, by far, and we've heard this from other workers as well. If there's no shower where you're going, shower right before going, and wash everywhere, and wash well. Scrub. Then scrub again. Put on some deodorant and clean clothes. Seems odd that I'm typing this, but evidently this is a bigger issue than I was ware of.

2. Be respectful, especially of her personal space and let her set the boundaries. Guys that start asking for blowjobs before she's started the massage and aggressively grabbing her ass might get to finish their session, but she might not see them again, and if she does, they don't get nearly as far as other guys do. This is a huge turn off to her. You're a stranger. Come for a few sessions and let her get comfortable with you.

3. Understand not everyone is attracted to everyone. A few weeks ago she had an 18 year old guy come for a session. He looked so young she ID'd him. He seemed very sexually shy and perhaps inexperienced. He is pretty scrawny, pale, and not her usual type, especially being so young. But, she quickly found out he has the largest cock she's ever seen. Just massive. Way out of proportion to his body. She's a bit of a size queen and no way she was going to let him out the door without having it inside her. She loved his clumsiness and shyness and so she gave him FS on the first visit, something she's never done. She rarely ever has FS, and hasn't ever on the first visit. But, things just came together for this young guy and he got very, very lucky. So don't be offended if you're not getting "as far" as you'd like with someone, they just feel differently and have different triggers.desires than you do. We talk openly about our preferences, fetishes, and so on here, and understand the women we see are human and also feel that way.

4. Negotiation is fine, being resoundingly cheap is not. As I said, she doesn't have a set menu, etc, but does charge for extras. Some of her regulars have fallen on hard times with the pandemic and so she's willing to give them a break. Better to have them still see her for a slightly reduced price than not come for a session at all. Her prices are pretty standard, maybe a bit below average and she knows they're fair. So if you come and try to grind her down, this is a huge turn off. I was shocked at the number of guys that do this. At least a few a week that wants to pay $5, or nothing over the massage fee instead of $40-$60 depending on the service. And they often get VERY pissy about it. "You're making enough with the massage fee, get over it, you're lucky I'm here at all!" Don't be that guy.

Anyway, have to say that dating a masseuse that does extras has been a lot of fun for me. I've gained even further insights into the business, how it works, etc, and it feeds my cuckold fetish nicely. My regular GF is home today for a few weeks, so I'm back to "being faithful" for a little bit. Stay healthy everyone.

That’s was a good read Bill. Thank you. Keep on sluggin!

 

[Rubmegood]

Thanks for the great pointers, Big bill! The few SP's that I've had a more personal relationship with echo the same feelings. Some of the horror stories they can tell! True gentlemen, it seems, are few and far between! Respect with these ladies is priceless if you expect them to let you return, let alone give you an "expanded menu".

 

[JAV4fun]

Hygiene and respectful to the ladies = open menu for most of the time.

 

[Bob the Knob]

With respect, you can expect. The good ladies know there is a lot of competition, so keeping your client base happy will lead to more extras with the guys who treat them like ladies

 

[bigbill]

Thanks for the positive comments and the flurry of PMs regarding this. To those that have asked for me to reveal her identity, I will respect her privacy and not do so. Thanks for the offers of bolstering her business, but she is booked up pretty well now. There is an update to be noted, though. Last night when my regular GF (RGF) got home, I was telling her about my Massage GF's (MGF) encounter with Giant Cock Boy (GCB). Well she really perked up at that! So I reached out to MGF, she contacted GCB and gave him my RGF's number.

They spoke on the phone this morning and she and I are entertaining him this evening. I'm making some fresh pasta and sauce and have some nice bubbly in the fridge. RGF is busy grooming as she knows young men prefer bare pussies. Given the pandemic and other factors, this is the first new man she's seen in some while, so we're both very excited. Also, GCB, if you are a member of this board,(and I have reasons to suspect you are) I will not reveal your identity or any personal info, you can be rest assured of that. I will ask the same of you, thanks.

 

[deepbrowneyes99]

Thanks for the positive comments and the flurry of PMs regarding this. To those that have asked for me to reveal her identity, I will respect her privacy and not do so. Thanks for the offers of bolstering her business, but she is booked up pretty well now. There is an update to be noted, though. Last night when my regular GF (RGF) got home, I was telling her about my Massage GF's (MGF) encounter with Giant Cock Boy (GCB). Well she really perked up at that! So I reached out to MGF, she contacted GCB and gave him my RGF's number.

They spoke on the phone this morning and she and I are entertaining him this evening. I'm making some fresh pasta and sauce and have some nice bubbly in the fridge. RGF is busy grooming as she knows young men prefer bare pussies. Given the pandemic and other factors, this is the first new man she's seen in some while, so we're both very excited. Also, GCB, if you are a member of this board,(and I have reasons to suspect you are) I will not reveal your identity or any personal info, you can be rest assured of that. I will ask the same of you, thanks.

this thread is amazing. Also.. something tells me I’m not GCB as I’m not going out tonight .. plus older than GCB... and more of a MCM ( Medium Cock Man)

 

[Rubmegood]

Also, GCB, if you are a member of this board,(and I have reasons to suspect you are) I will not reveal your identity or any personal info, you can be rest assured of that. I will ask the same of you, thanks.

Great! Thanks BigBill! Ooops!

 

[Deleted member 79939]

Prepare for a long post...lol

So I have a steady GF and we have a complicated but amazing relationship. She travels for work, a lot, and is gone sometimes for a couple of weeks at a time. When she's here, I'm exclusive to her, but not her to me. I'm a cuckold fetishist and she has sex with other men, mostly while I'm present. This satisfies me and her equally. She's over 50, but is attractive and has no issues finding younger (mostly late 20s to mid 30s) men that are attractive to fuck her. When she's gone, I'm free to visit massage parlours, and have on occasion had an "GF is away GF." For a few months now I've been seeing a woman that is a masseuse that provides pretty much just HEs to her customers, but occasionally more. She has no set "menu" and her response to each client is based on many things. Being a cuckold fetishist, this is amazing for me, as when my regular GF is away, my "other GF" tells me about the numerous sexual encounters she has with other men while we're having sex. So, why do some men get much farther with her than others?

1. Personal hygiene. This is her #1, by far, and we've heard this from other workers as well. If there's no shower where you're going, shower right before going, and wash everywhere, and wash well. Scrub. Then scrub again. Put on some deodorant and clean clothes. Seems odd that I'm typing this, but evidently this is a bigger issue than I was ware of.

2. Be respectful, especially of her personal space and let her set the boundaries. Guys that start asking for blowjobs before she's started the massage and aggressively grabbing her ass might get to finish their session, but she might not see them again, and if she does, they don't get nearly as far as other guys do. This is a huge turn off to her. You're a stranger. Come for a few sessions and let her get comfortable with you.

3. Understand not everyone is attracted to everyone. A few weeks ago she had an 18 year old guy come for a session. He looked so young she ID'd him. He seemed very sexually shy and perhaps inexperienced. He is pretty scrawny, pale, and not her usual type, especially being so young. But, she quickly found out he has the largest cock she's ever seen. Just massive. Way out of proportion to his body. She's a bit of a size queen and no way she was going to let him out the door without having it inside her. She loved his clumsiness and shyness and so she gave him FS on the first visit, something she's never done. She rarely ever has FS, and hasn't ever on the first visit. But, things just came together for this young guy and he got very, very lucky. So don't be offended if you're not getting "as far" as you'd like with someone, they just feel differently and have different triggers.desires than you do. We talk openly about our preferences, fetishes, and so on here, and understand the women we see are human and also feel that way.

4. Negotiation is fine, being resoundingly cheap is not. As I said, she doesn't have a set menu, etc, but does charge for extras. Some of her regulars have fallen on hard times with the pandemic and so she's willing to give them a break. Better to have them still see her for a slightly reduced price than not come for a session at all. Her prices are pretty standard, maybe a bit below average and she knows they're fair. So if you come and try to grind her down, this is a huge turn off. I was shocked at the number of guys that do this. At least a few a week that wants to pay $5, or nothing over the massage fee instead of $40-$60 depending on the service. And they often get VERY pissy about it. "You're making enough with the massage fee, get over it, you're lucky I'm here at all!" Don't be that guy.

Anyway, have to say that dating a masseuse that does extras has been a lot of fun for me. I've gained even further insights into the business, how it works, etc, and it feeds my cuckold fetish nicely. My regular GF is home today for a few weeks, so I'm back to "being faithful" for a little bit. Stay healthy everyone.

Rapport is boring
Latter
Go to Edmonton
Some amazing inner massages

 

[Sector7g]

I like the acronyms used.

How about BTA guy (bigger than average)

Don't think that will get me any invites though haha

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[Deleted member 72001]

Changing my name to LBCBSGL!!
(Little Bit Chubby But Stunningly Good Looking)
Also not heading to Bill’s tonight......so that measures my cock.......

 

[bigbill]

Some very funny responses! And as usual, a super weird one from 777. What the fuck is with your posts?

 

[bigbill]

b) the masseuse's response to big dick. i've been told i'm bigger than average. for a while i was like "great, it seemed to matter more when i was young" and generally meant i was always going to get refused anal. but lately, i've noticed some more intimate experiences opening up with ladies, and its always related to them commenting on my dick. So maybe its true, maybe i didn't clue in to its value soon enough.

It's not normally that big of a deal to MGF (see what I did there?) but she wanted to see what it would be like having something so large inside her. She also liked how shy and innocent he seemed. My RGF is a size queen in many ways, particularly concerning girth. I was surprised by this because despite being older and having had children, etc. she's very tight, and it can take some real effort to get inside her, but she says the initial discomfort it worth it.

Pre-pandemic we had an encounter with another couple, which is a rarity for us. RGF isn't at all into women, but there was something about this one woman that sparked her interest. The man had a micro penis, I'd say 2" erect at best. He was into SPH (small penis humiliation) and didn't physically interact with us. He stood and watched and to my surprise, ejaculated without any external stimulation. His wife had only had sex with other men and women for quite some years and they seemed very satisfied and happy.

We've met some very interesting people on this journey, and I've come to see that the world is waaaaaay kinkier than people know.

 

[Baller22]

I am looking to meet MCB or even perhaps GCG miniscule cock boy or Giant Clit Girl if you run into either please PM me with thier info.

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[Qster]

The man had a micro penis, I'd say 2" erect at best.

I may only be 2", but some ladies like it that wide!

 

[Jelloguy]

Thanks for the positive comments and the flurry of PMs regarding this. To those that have asked for me to reveal her identity, I will respect her privacy and not do so. Thanks for the offers of bolstering her business, but she is booked up pretty well now. There is an update to be noted, though. Last night when my regular GF (RGF) got home, I was telling her about my Massage GF's (MGF) encounter with Giant Cock Boy (GCB). Well she really perked up at that! So I reached out to MGF, she contacted GCB and gave him my RGF's number.

They spoke on the phone this morning and she and I are entertaining him this evening. I'm making some fresh pasta and sauce and have some nice bubbly in the fridge. RGF is busy grooming as she knows young men prefer bare pussies. Given the pandemic and other factors, this is the first new man she's seen in some while, so we're both very excited. Also, GCB, if you are a member of this board,(and I have reasons to suspect you are) I will not reveal your identity or any personal info, you can be rest assured of that. I will ask the same of you, thanks.

Thanks Bill for this very open dialogue. You've given many of us a peek into old memories that reignite hope for the future.

And Bill will keep things confidential GCB that i can assure you on.

 

[bigbill]

Well since I opened the book, I might as well finish the chapter here, at least for now. The first hilarity was GCB's mom dropping him off at my place! That is an absolute first for us. RGF is driving him home now, no one was driving last night. He's even sweeter than MGF said. He brought a wonderful bouquet of flowers and was nothing but respectful. He was painfully shy at first, but given the situation, that was completely expected. We didn't ask him what he told his mom, omg.

We learned he graduated high school in June and his high school girlfriend moved away to work for a gap year before going to school. He's in university, classes all online, living at home. RGF has her own children as do I, and they're all significantly older than he is! That sure did make it weird at first. But we settled in for dinner and conversation everyone relaxed.

I don't envy him his size. His high school girlfriend found it uncomfortable and so they often abstained from intercourse and did other things. Getting a BJ is also difficult. It's a shame in many ways because he gets very hard and has fantastic control and stamina for an 18yr old. He was thrilled to have anal sex with RGF, but it sure took some doing and a shout-out to Uberlube.

Hopefully we'll see him again and perhaps on a semi-regular basis (depending on RGF's at-home schedule) as she really enjoyed our time with him. When she was on top of him reverse cow girl for fucklicking, I have to say seeing that monstrous cock in her was a huuuuuuge turn on for me too. Now back to my caffeinated beverage...