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Seriously, how many here think its ok to have casual chit chat with opposite gender?

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..even for marriage purposes?

When Ali (ra) went to ask for Fatima's (ra) hand in marriage, did he go directly to her and ask? or did he even go to her and have casual chit chat? NO. He went straight to her father, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and asked HIM instead.

“Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their private parts; that will make for greater purity for them. Indeed Allaah is well acquainted with all that they do.â€￾ [an-Nur (24):30]

How can someone be lowering their gaze and then have casual chit chat? That's right, you can't.
@Top of the dude chain - did you need read the example above? And casual chit chat is the road to zina.
 
Lol you wana know a funny thing that happened to me today sis :p

We had to play this "game". Basically one group of people have to sit down and then another group of people have to stand behind those who are sitting down. When a person who's standing up calls a person who is sitting down, the person who is sitting down has to run before the person who's standing up taps them on their shoulder.... So obv there are guys in my group and I didn't want to tap their shoulders nor did I want them to tap mine! Lol, I played it cool :p Basically, when a boy called my name, I purposely acted dopey like I forgot they were talking to me so the girl behind me had enough time to tap mu shoulder. Because if I had went, I would be sitting behind a boy and they would have to tap my shoulder if I wasn't fast enough. But just to show the teacher that I was involved, I did call a boy's name out. BUT I let them go and pretended that I had "slow" reactions. :)

Anyway the reason why I told that was because in many mixed schools/colleges/unis we are forced into doing these "activites" taht we don't want to do. So we have to find ways in which we are involved but to our limits. These sort of activites, like the one I have mentioned, are gateways to something else. Sure people think "oh it's just a tap on a shoulder" but one thing leads to another.... No matter what people say, one thing ALWAYS leads to something. So Insha Allah, we will try our best to avoid them but in way which we can still cooperate with our class. :)

We have to know our limits and learn self-control.

Salam sis :)
 
casual chit chat might not be the road to zina. it might be for sex-crazed fanatics yeah, but not for some.
 
Yeah it's cool and what we're meant to do.

What's wrong with it? I get into chat most times on Facebook.

English atheist male.
 
I don't chat with men and you are fucking rude. What about the Muslim women converts who live in an area where there are ZERO Muslims. How the hell do you expect them to get married then? When I became a Muslim on October 1st 2006 I wanted to get married. But my family is not Muslims and there are no Muslims in my area. Also I don't drive and I didn't know of any mosques in Columbus. So I asked Allah (SWT) to find me a good husband and a good father for my children and set up a profile on www.qiran.com and left it up to Allah (SWT). Between October 3rd-5th I met my husband who sent me a private message so I read it and checked out his profile. I knew that he was the man Allah (SWT) had chosen to be my husband and father of my children. We talked for two weeks before we got married on October 19th 2006. We both set up profiles with the intention of marriage. Besides my mother would never have let me marry a black Saudi Muslim. My family happens to be racist and hates Muslims/Middle Eastern men.
 
IT IS HARAM. fOR Marriage it is allowed in the presence of either boy parents or girl parents should be there between them.


Read Surah Ahzab, Verse no 59 to 60 and Surah Noor, Verse no 30 to 31
 
Year 2010 is different we are in a non-muslim country. Secondly ive never heard of someone ask teh girls dad for marriage and have success. Thirdly if it keeps you away from zina why not, surely zina is a bigger sin?

Your question says "even for marriage purposes". Im addressing that point.

Secondly the story about Ali asking the prophet is false. There was an islamic knowledge test and whoever got the highest score would get Fatimas hand in marriage.
 
Now and then , here and there, and BANG ur no longer a virgin...whoops?
 
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  44. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Amy & Jenny. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Don’t miss out on her special skills! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curved with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  45. bumika.vashi:
    (((आपको बिना नाटक या नखरे करने वाला सर्विस चाहे तोह याद करना. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to
  46. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    💗💗💗 ℍ𝔸ℙℙ𝕐 𝕄𝔸𝕐 💗💗💗🌟🌟🌟 MAY 5th , SUNDAY 🌟🌟🌟 ☎️ (905) 707-6866 🕙🌟🌟🌟Open 10:30-10:00🗺#33-160 East Beaver Creek 🗺 7 Rms 🛏🌟🌟🌟Table Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, 🌟🌟🌟$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min 🌟🌟🌟Attendants: We have 4️⃣ today 🍀🍀🍀 🌹🆕 DAISY 🌹SOPHIE 🌹🆕 TINA 🌹 🆕 CHERRY 🍀🍀🍀 NEWSFLASH 🍀🍀🍀 🆕 TINA & 🆕 CHERRY & 🆕 DAISY & SOPHIE ‘ s BACK 🍀🍀🍀 TODAY 🍀🍀🍀
  47. Sparkling Spa:
    YOUNG GIRLS SUMMER AND FOX WAITING TO BLOW YOU AWAY ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet open mind Yoyo and young pretty cute Ella, sexy Coco and fun GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇Young Fit Sexy Latina Karen, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel.
  50. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Turkish Persian girl Jasmine today
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