Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

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Would it be a good idea to try to practice Massage Therapy without any training? I don't think it would, but I'd like to know from people who actually do it, or study it. I am wanting to get practice in, within maybe 6 months (like start practicing in 6 months), so I can have some experience, and I will also probably do it after I join up (will be another 1 1/2 years sadly :(), but I read in a Massage book, where it said the school doesn't really make you able to do it, it just shows you how, and the first 1000 hours you do it, is where you really learn.

Also, this might sound really silly but. Is strong hands a good idea? I mean, I have strong hands from farm work, but I have a grip master, for punching in boxing, and I can practice on it a lot during the day, and would it be a good idea to try working my hands more, since I would need to be able to grip good with them?
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

Clover said:
Would it be a good idea to try to practice Massage Therapy without any training? I don't think it would, but I'd like to know from people who actually do it, or study it. I am wanting to get practice in, within maybe 6 months (like start practicing in 6 months), so I can have some experience, and I will also probably do it after I join up (will be another 1 1/2 years sadly :(), but I read in a Massage book, where it said the school doesn't really make you able to do it, it just shows you how, and the first 1000 hours you do it, is where you really learn.

Also, this might sound really silly but. Is strong hands a good idea? I mean, I have strong hands from farm work, but I have a grip master, for punching in boxing, and I can practice on it a lot during the day, and would it be a good idea to try working my hands more, since I would need to be able to grip good with them?

Don't do it. Like the book said about massage school, "it just shows you how" - which is the important bit. Practicing professionally after graduation will help you to hone the knowledge you gained during your formal training.

Consider these questions:

How well do you know human anatomy, physiology, pathology? Do you know contraindications for common illnesses and medications such as coumadin? How do you assess for inflammation and edema? If present, how do you modify a massage session? How do you set your personal and professional boundaries with clients? Do you know how to do a thorough verbal intake and visual assessment? What are the applicable state and local laws governing the ethical practice of massage in your area? How about zoning ordinances? If your client is pregnant, how do you position them during the first, second, and third trimesters? How do you drape a client that is supine, prone, or sidelying? How do you adjust the draping appropriately so they can change positions without being exposed? How do you select a massage table and determine what height to set it at? Do you understand the uses of bolsters? How does the type of massage you do affect your choice and use of lubricant? If a client has an emotional reaction during a massage, what do you do? Do you have massage therapy liability insurance and a massage business license to practice in your area?

These are just a few of the questions which you will learn the answers to in school, and/or which you will have to answer affirmatively before you can legally practice. I have also read massage books that attempt to undermine the value of a quality massage school education. The ones I have were written by people that didn't have access to the kind of education that is now available, so they had to learn some other way. It is true that you will improve a lot by practicing on people, but that doesn't mean you should just leap into it without any training. It is possible to harm someone with massage; I have a list of major injuries caused by MTs in Minnesota over the past few years, and they include broken bones and dislocations. It's also possible to dislodge a blood clot that later results in an embolism. These were caused by trained MTs. As an untrained MT, would you know how to do any better?

Go to a good massage school for real training. :)

And don't worry about training your grip. If you can do farm work, your grip is strong enough already. Besides, skillful massage does not require extreme grip strength. If you just rely on your grip strength to do massage, you are at greater risk of injuring both yourself and your clients. The body requires finesse, not brute force.
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

Well, I know a lot about the human anatomy, but that's about it. I am not gonna do it, I fear hurting people, that is why I was asking. Thanks for the answer. How many years does it normally take for a degree in Massage Therapy (or license, or whatever they call it in that sort of school lol?)
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

While I believe Jason has some valid points, and certainly all true, I would have to disagree to an extent. I think, as long as you stick to working with healthy friends and family that you would be OK. You could probably go to an intro day at a local MT school and learn some basics that would allow you to do some very basic massage. I would caution you against doing deep tissue work, as you could bruise someone.

Just don't let anyone talk you into doing work you are uncomfortable doing, and don't try to do too much too soon.

As for the legal aspect, I would think that as long as you are doing it as a hobby, and not charging for the sessions, and not advertising yourself as an MT, and, again, sticking to family and friends, you would most likely be fine- but, some places have funny laws, so it may be in your best interest to check.

IN any case, best of luck in whatever you decide.
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

Licenses are usually given by the state.

The educational requirements to practice massage therapy can be different in each state.
You can get an idea of what is required by researching your state here:
http://www.massageregister.com/StateRequirements.asp

California for instance is currently working on their legislation. Some municipalities required as little as 100 hours I'd heard. But in general MT school is between 500-1000 hours.

In many states after you graduate from MT school you are required to take either the National Certification exam or the MBLEx.

Additionally some states are requiring you to take an exam that covers the laws of your state.

In my state for instance the requirement is 600 hours, the National Exam and an exam on the laws of my state.

There is at least one MT school in my state that I know of though, that offers an associate degree in massage therapy. This may give a person more advanced training, especially in certain modalities or information on wellness techniques that may prove useful in your career. Their core MT program is 756 hours, and their associate degree adds on an additional 468 or something like that. As you can see this would be a serious time commitment.

Some MT schools have a "please touch" program. This is often signed up for by couples or friends, is generally fairly inexpensive and teaches them to work on each other. It's a good way to "get your feet wet" with some instruction and see if you would really enjoy the field.

Clover, I don't recall you mentioning if you have ever had a professional massage. The school I attended actually Required you to get 2 professional massages before Applying for MT school. I would suggest you get them from 2 different people. So that you can see what the field is really like. If you are a male and can have a session with a male MT in your area to find out how easy or difficult it was to get his practice going in your area, all the better!

In addition to the books others have suggested you read, I suggest you read this board. All different areas, even if you can only ask questions here in this section. You will be able to learn a lot about the field and maybe pick up some "hints" in the student section... You may want to read the male practitioner section of the board at some point, to read about some of the particular issues our "brothers" face.

And when one starts to do massage, one starts working on family. With lots of feedback.
Since your family didn't seem to support this dream of you going to MT school... that might be a problem... I would even caution you about doing massage therapy on friends due to your age and the issues with minors and informed consent (for the massage). We don't want to see you getting into any legal trouble.
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

It's one thing to rub the shoulders/hands/feet of healthy friends or family for a feel good factor and another thing to practice massage therapy...
I am of Jason's school of thought that to work on people it is best to have the training/education before hand. You can easily go outside the scope of practice and work on someone who is ill or injured that may not be appropriate.
Having strong hands is not the only important factor, knowing when and how to use your strength plays a much bigger role.
Here in Canada many provinces require the full 2200-2500hr course plus exams/ceu's/insurance/license fees to work as an (R)MT.
Even just to work on friends and family... follow the advise given and look at local colleges to see if there is a short 'intrest' course that can show you techniques that will help you from injuring yourself or others. Then maybe you can have a feel for whether you want to do it full time as well.
This is a great line of work for the right person with the right training... so do a bit of reseach and see if it's thr right thing for you:)
KAT
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

kat said:
It's one thing to rub the shoulders/hands/feet of healthy friends or family for a feel good factor and another thing to practice massage therapy...

True to some degree and yet so much of massage therapy is about just making people "feel good." Lots of people don't need thousands of hours of medical massage "training" to achieve this. Some just "have it" and some don't and training doesn't guarantee you'll have it after thousands of hours in class, but if you do "have it" it can often make that gift even better.

I agree that if you do want to practice massage therapy "professionally" you really do need formal training, you will need it to legitimize you in your career. Fortunately in America you don't need the hours that the Canadians put in. But if being a pro isn't in your future plans and you still want to do massage "informally" on friends and family because you feel compelled to do it don't let what anyone says stop you. There are oodles of good training DVD's just for people like you. You will probably learn a lot just by doing it (it's another way to learn) and if it makes you and the people you are" informally" working on happy there is nothing wrong with that. Many successful professionals started out this way. I seriously doubt you will maim anyone, I say this as both a long time pro MT and a teacher of MT. You may find you like it so much you really want to take to get the training and that this is the career for you. But don't be scared off of exploring it informally for yourself at your own pace and on your own terms. There is nothing wrong with that. Massage isn't always a "medical procedure." Please know that not every successful MT views it as such, there are multiple schools of thought on this subject. I'm a firm advocate of the "one size does not fit all" philosophy regarding massage both as a hobby or a vocation. "Touch" is a good thing and we always need more of it, just take it slow. Without getting into a boring "more hours" vs "less hours" debate just heed this, don't fall victim to the mystification of therapeutic touch.
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

Well, I am not going to do it, I will read books, and study videos and such.

Question: Is it normal to listen to music while doing it? I have music that I "bop" to, and like, it makes me better at whatever I'm doing. Honestly. Home work, Boxing, Weight Lifting, whatever.
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

Clover said:
Well, I am not going to do it, I will read books, and study videos and such.

Question: Is it normal to listen to music while doing it? I have music that I "bop" to, and like, it makes me better at whatever I'm doing. Honestly. Home work, Boxing, Weight Lifting, whatever.

Whatever works for you friend. I wish you all the luck.

Personally I couldn't and wouldn't work without music.
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

elsewhere said:
kat said:
It's one thing to rub the shoulders/hands/feet of healthy friends or family for a feel good factor and another thing to practice massage therapy...
But if being a pro isn't in your future plans and you still want to do massage "informally" on friends and family because you feel compelled to do it don't let what anyone says stop you. There are oodles of good training DVD's just for people like you. You will probably learn a lot just by doing it (it's another way to learn) and if it makes you and the people you are" informally" working on happy there is nothing wrong with that. Many successful professionals started out this way. I seriously doubt you will maim anyone, I say this as both a long time pro MT and a teacher of MT. You may find you like it so much you really want to take to get the training and that this is the career for you. But don't be scared off of exploring it informally for yourself at your own pace and on your own terms. There is nothing wrong with that. Massage isn't always a "medical procedure." Please know that not every successful MT views it as such, there are multiple schools of thought on this subject. I'm a firm advocate of the "one size does not fit all" philosophy regarding massage both as a hobby or a vocation. "Touch" is a good thing and we always need more of it, just take it slow. Without getting into a boring "more hours" vs "less hours" debate just heed this, don't fall victim to the mystification of therapeutic touch.

I totally agree. As long as you are not charging $, I say go for it!
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

I would venture to say that a significant perceneforum.xxxe of MTs (on this forum, & out in the world) started their massage training *informally* practicing on healthy family & friends. It is true for me. At 11, I learned face & scalp massage from our next door neighbor & cosmetologist, which my mom wanted me to do for her A LOT. In high school I had one friend who went to foreign exchange school in Japan & studied Judo, he showed me how to do hand & foot massage. I use the hand massage technique to this day, and was taught the same technique at BOTH massage schools I attended. Another friend of mine was living in California (at age 17) training as a massage apprentice. She gave me my first *professional* massage when I was a senior in HS, & I said "I wanna do that." She is still doing massage, been at it 15 years.

Let me tell you too, I grew up in a small town on the plains in Wyoming with very nice, but 'stuck-thinking' parents. In my early 20s, when I finally expressed my desire to learn massage... Response Mom, "Don't you want a real job?" (what is a real job, anyway :roll: ) Response Dad, "Not MY daughter!" (again :roll: ) This was in the late 1990s, by the way. IMO MTs had come a long way by this point, in gaining the public's trust and confidence in massage. And mostly, they did that through regulation & education. So, it IS pretty important to get formal training. I ended up with about 1500 hours of massage education. Is my massage any better than when I only had 300 hours? Not really, but I understand WHY I am doing things that before were only intuitive. What makes my massage better is every hour that I spend doing massage.

You have some really good advice from some very sound thinkers here, I liked this bit a lot.

elsewhere said:
Some just "have it" and some don't and training doesn't guarantee you'll have it after thousands of hours in class, but if you do "have it" it can often make that gift even better.
elsewhere said:
But don't be scared off of exploring it informally for yourself at your own pace and on your own terms. There is nothing wrong with that. Massage isn't always a "medical procedure." Please know that not every successful MT views it as such, there are multiple schools of thought on this subject. I'm a firm advocate of the "one size does not fit all" philosophy regarding massage both as a hobby or a vocation. "Touch" is a good thing and we always need more of it, just take it slow.
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

Anyone can massage.
Humans have been doing it for thousands of years.

Massage "Therapy" implies (I think) that the therapist has some formal education.

So if you like to massage then by all means do it as often as you like.
There are many books out there about massage that are geared to the layperson.
Just make sure that you can find people that also like to massage so that you can GET a massage once in awhile yourself! :massage:
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

Well, the people I would be practicing on would be 90% sports players or weight lifters. So, I mean, I could do 4-5 a day easy, cause a lot of people here want them, but the local therapists are rather "expensive" like, I doubt it is that bad, but considering our average income here, it is.
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

Clover said:
Well, the people I would be practicing on would be 90% sports players or weight lifters. So, I mean, I could do 4-5 a day easy, cause a lot of people here want them, but the local therapists are rather "expensive" like, I doubt it is that bad, but considering our average income here, it is.

4-5 a day "easy" is unrealistic to start, & can even be so for a seasoned MT. This is if we are talking 60 or 90 minutes sessions, with an athletic type can usually become deep & detailed work (when you know it), 3 or more days per week. I knew a girl who worked at a Massage Envy in Houston, and her goal was to have 30 sessions per week. WHEW! Her style was definitely relaxing swedish, but she did apply moderate to deep pressure. I don't know if she even ever reached that goal (& baffled by it, personally). Before we lost touch, she was at 20 per week.

Even 4-5 spot treatments, at 15 or 30 minutes can take a toll, depending on the area, and your knowledge of proper application of techniques. Same goes with chair massage, and so on.

The things you learn in school, or from a mentor, that are more difficult to learn on your own (beyond A&P) would be: proper techniques to address specific areas, proper body mechanics to keep your body safe (making it possible to do 4-5 sessions per day), the palpation skills necessary to understand the tissues & knowlegde
of how to proceed based upon your analysis, and education on self care.

If you do gain your parent's support (or when you are able to start practicing), it really is a good idea to take it slow, listen to your own body when working, and do try to regularly receive bodywork. Your local massage school can be a great resource of affordable massage, and experiencing lots of different massage "personalities".
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

When I went to massage school I was working full-time as a waitress. I had lots of voluteers and learned one good lesson during this time. One person came to me with her shoulder hurting and I did all the Rotator cuff muscles and neck muscles. She felt better right after, but the next day she called into work, so I stopped in to see her after work. Her entire arm, and neck where blown up so huge and she was in so much pain. I had massaged Bursitus and we hadn't covered it in class yet. After this incident we did, but its instances like this that keep me on top of my ceus, and makes me tell u, get the training, or don't try to fix anything until u do. :)
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

I think it's really important for anyone giving massage to try and have some sort of training. I've had massages by friends who meant no harm, but actually caused me a lot of pain. At minimum, a novice should learn some basic techniques from an experienced therapist, or at least you tube a couple of videos.

I had an experience where a friend (who had never given a massage) was trying to work some stress out of my shoulders and back. He rubbed it so hard, and directly on the bone that I was in extreme pain for 2 days. While massage can be very theraputic, it can also be dangerous if not practiced the right way.
 
Practing Massage Therapy, as a Novice?

Clover said:
Well, the people I would be practicing on would be 90% sports players or weight lifters. So, I mean, I could do 4-5 a day easy, cause a lot of people here want them, but the local therapists are rather "expensive" like, I doubt it is that bad, but considering our average income here, it is.

It sounds as if you intend to offer "an affordable alternative" compared to those with professional training. Does that mean you intend to charge for giving massages? If so, stop right now and go back to the top of this thread. Massaging people for free is one thing, but charging for services is a whole different thing.

Let me be clear: For what you are proposing, skimming a few books and/or videos is not adequate. If you think otherwise, then you might as well say that all the professional MTs on MassagePlanetL wasted our time and money on training.

What you are proposing is tantamount to buying some car repair manuals and tools, then deciding to call yourself a mechanic. Oh, you might manage to help someone here and there, but you will never really "get it" like a trained mechanic, and you could easily damage/destroy the thing you are trying to fix. Cheaper up front, perhaps, but at what cost?

Also, let's consider the "target market" you are considering. Athletes put their bodies through more strenuous activities and have a higher risk of injury than the "average" person. In my experience, sports athletes and weightlifters often have a laundry list of chronic pain issues dating back to a litany of old injuries. If they are competitive, the bodywork they receive can have a major impact upon their ability to perform and/or recover. An untrained person should NOT be working on these people, let alone accepting pay (or any other form of compensation) for massaging them. Even basic Swedish relaxation massage may be contraindicated depending on their health status, training/competition schedule, etc. You want to jump into doing 4 or 5 per day? I wonder who'll be hurt first: you or one of them?

For your own good, please reconsider your idea. I can think of hundreds of ways it may blow up in your face, and it's not worth the risk. Yes, do some free massages for friends and family here and there, that's a great way to get a basic feel for whether this is something you really want to study. If so, go to massage school and really study it. There isn't a book or video out there that will replace a formal education experience, and why would you want to settle for less?
 
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    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  16. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful sexy sm
  17. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet Tina with curve body and young fun Ivy with big buttocks , young Japanese Lily 36 DDD and pretty GFE Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  18. Dreaminn:
    THURSDAY at๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: EVA, HONEY & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ EVA is a slim, pretty & sexy Asian girl. She has excellent bbbj skills if you are nice and clean, and can perform like a champion. HONEY is a beautiful slim Asian lady with an ample bosom, slightly curvy with a great ass. Her services are highly sought after.
  19. SunriseRH:
    THURSDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ MIA is a young Vietnamese beauty with the looks and the skills. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€
  20. NewOriental:
    THURSDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY, HELEN & LULU. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. HELEN is a young, slim & very sexy Vietnamese lady. She not only looks good, she IS good.
  21. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  22. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธCindy & Jenny. Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curved with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  23. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sofia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  24. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Young Sexy Curvy Latina Karen, New First Day Sexy Chinese Miumiu, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  25. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Vicy and Jenny Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
  26. admin:
    No spamming shoutbox allowed
  27. do you speak English:
    I go for massages 3 times a week and places like bmr should be banned a total rip off mu only mistake was i should of left after bee when the management rips you off then the employees follow and the low life promoters do not want the truth to be heard so i am blocked
  28. do you speak English:
    This spa only likes the fake reviews
  29. do you speak English:
    O am a customer not working with any spa if you do not want real reviews please ban me on this site i hate rip off places
  30. Social-Misfit:
    do you speak tardnick, they blocked u cause yawl full of shit as usual
  31. do you speak English:
    Stay away from bmr spa atotal rip offthey blocked me to avoid the truth about the place a total rip off
  32. Moon203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 young hot CBC 36F big boobs in today &Good service Cuban girl Mimi in Thursday
  33. do you speak English:
    Is this just service
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietnamese
  35. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at Sugar Love Spa: Jennifer & Lulu. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž 437-365-2688 โ˜Ž HANA(9pm-5am) is a slim, sexy & very liberal Mexican lady with incredible services. JENNIFER is new today. Details to follow... LULU is also new today. Details later... TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist
  36. KSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: ANA, CINDY, KELLY & SUKI. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ ANA is a pretty lady standing 5โ€™4โ€ & weighing 115 Lbs, with 36C melons and a very sexy body. CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5โ€™3โ€ sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares with her massage and great services.
  37. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on wednesday๏ผš New Polish gir gigi๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹angel- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility CiCi- Exotic beauty with great service and...
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  39. Birchmount&14th:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐๐ˆ๐‘๐‚๐‡๐Œ๐Ž๐”๐๐“ & ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’๐ญ๐ก: JESSIE & YUKI. Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐ โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐—๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—˜ is a slim and very lovely Asian girl with massage skills of the highest degree. ๐—ฌ๐—จ๐—ž๐—œ is here today to provide an amazing professional massage. We are open 24 Hours daily. We have clean rooms and plenty of free parking.
  40. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  41. SunriseRH:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: MICHELLE, RIYA & NEW GIRL YOYO. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. RIYA is a dynamic black lady with nice D Cups, responsive nipples, and a curvy ass. She knows all the tricks.
  42. NewOriental:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. VIVIAN is a pretty & very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5โ€™7โ€ tall, with a slim figure. Vivian is very friendly and versatile.
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Angel ๐Ÿ’• Very beautiful girl from Taiwan, very curvy, young and sexy, she can provide a great massage and wonderful touch and super service. Angel is so sexy, especially her 34C breasts and her big juicy tight bum you can worship and ador
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธCindy, Kelly & Kiki. Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Kelly is slim and attractive with very slight curves, all natural coconuts, a nice bum, and rockinโ€™ services.
  45. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธMALIYA, RAVEN, NINA, PAOLA, ANGEL, AAVI, PAYAL PEARL, SANA, KIRAN๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  47. Dreaminn:
    WEDNESDAY at๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: ANGELA, DELIA & SOPHIA(11AM-8PM). 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ ANGELA! Angela is a slim pretty lady from China, with natural boobs, slim waist and grabbable ass (camera shy). DELIA is young and very pretty, slim with natural boobs and an impressive ass. Her services are very satisfying.
  48. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Zoe ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  49. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julie ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Mia 25 years old and young fun Angela, sexy Coco and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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