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2 discectomies later
hi everyone i have just joined the site and im amazed at how many of us all have similar problems!.. i had my first operation 3 years ago following an mri scan after months of horrific leg and back pain. i felt wonderful post op and got back to normalish pretty quick.with pain killers. then.. about 1 year later the same pains came back with a thud, but so much worse and the pain actually changed the way i walked i stooped when i walked because when i tried to stand straight, the pain radiated from my back all the way down my left leg in a straight line down to my heel. for a few months i couldnt stand tippy toes on my left foot and the left side of my left foot was numb, but that went away after a few months. my dr said oh lets leave it a few months and see how you go...well another year later i was still in agony and on a cocktail of pain pills i felt hopeless, i eventually convinced him after months of harrassing the man, to give me another mri scan which revealed a large prolapse to L4/L5 and i think s1 was mentioned? .and had another discectomy. that was in january of this year and the pain in my leg was almost gone after surgery and it was wonderful, but now my back pain has got worse and i can hardly lift my left toes up,i get terrible spasms in my calf muscle and the calf muscle always feels like it has been overworked and thigh muscle above the back of my knee area spasms badly also, my left leg is very weak and i sometimes catch my toes on the carpet etc , i think im lifting my foot but i am not totaly, also when i walk my left leg just slumps down not very gracefully i may add!while my right leg walks fine, im trying to describe the best i can and im sorry if it seems like mumble jumble ..ouchy! my dr said there is nothing else he can do for me and that i should try to get on with things but the pain is terrible lower back and i am getting stiffer and stiffer. i barely sleep about 3 hours a night i fall asleep easily because im so tired but when i do get in a comfy position and i move in my sleep, the pain and uncomfyness wakes me up and i need to move position.wow i got all that off my chest!!i dont know what else to do or where to turn i just feel as if i am not being listened to by the dr,s and i know thats why my nerve was damaged because i was left so long the last time.. thank you so much for allowing me to babble

m x
 
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And the name you chose, awwwwh, never give up hope! Never!

I so sympathise with you, sounds like you need a new doctor and a second opinion. Have you looked for a pain management clinic at your local hospital or one near you? They can be very helpful. What about physio? Chiropractic? Have you looked at complementary therapies too? Do you have someone that can go to the appointments with you and demand some attention?

Chin up, sending you lots of good wishes and hope

Cassie xxxx
 
To lost all hope
reading your post you have just described "drop foot". I suffered a herniation of L4/L5 in December 07 which progressed and by January 08 I was admitted for emergency surgery as I had developed a drop foot. Progressive muscle weakness is a red flag for doctors so I am absolutely amazed that your GP has sent you on your way advising that he cannot do anything else for you.
I had a second herniation at the same disc height in November 08 which was finally removed in May of this year. If you improved after your second operation and have now got new symptons which include the drop foot then its likely you have another herniation at L4/L5. Drop foot indicates that the L5 nerve root is being crushed, you really need to go back to your gp and start making a lot of noise, you could end up with permenant nerve damage and a permenant disability if this is not sorted out. It has taken nearly two years for my nerve to heal and I am now having physio to sort out the wasted muscles in my left calf/shin and foot, its a long slow process and emotionally draining process.

Good luck

Bonnie10
 
hiya cassie,,,,yes my dr referred me to a pain clinic in my local hospital and my appointment was the other day, i have no idea what type of dr is that these type of clinics? but what he basicly said was that i need to get off the medication i am on and he is surprised i am not a zombie.. the pills are.. oxycodone, oxycontin, tramadol. co-codamol, amitriptyline,naproxen diazepam ,and that he agreed with my dr that i should get used to having some pain and i agreed!!! yes some pain but not at this level surely..i shiudlnt have to be in this much pain after 2 surgeries . although the terrible pain in my left leg is gne and that was the purpose of the surgeries the back pain and spasms are sometimes unbearable. but i couldnt function without these pills and some days i cant even walk to the bathroom, i dont want to be on pills either but i know that they only mask the pain and dont take it away i need the back problem sorted, i used to ahve physio just gentle rocking my knees side to side etc and i still do this at home. i think you are right that i should take someone with me to talk my case as i tend to get very emotional and cry like a baby with frustration,
thank you so much cassie xxx
 
hi bonnie,,,thanks for your reply,the drop foot symptoms i have had since before my 2nd surgery at the start of the year and it has not got any better at all, to the extent my toes hardly move when i am trying to put a sock on it is crazy to imagaine such a small task would be so irritating! at the follow up appointment after my 2nd surgery the surgeon said there was significicant nerve damage to my leg and foot and that was due to the prolapsed disc and although some people may say thats the way the cookie crumbles it still makes me wonder if it woudl still be the same if i had been listend to and took seriously and given an mri scan earlier rather than later ..buy hey ho! like yourself i ahve muscle wastage in my left leg although the muscles that spasm you could brfeak toffee off them lol on a serious note its very painfull when it spams really painful, i have some hope now that you have said your nerve has healed that is truly wonderful and thank you for your reply and i think another gp appointment armed with a family member is on the cards! m xx
 
Hello,
Pains can be well treated by acu moxibition, I can arrange
points on fingers joints easy to find, to do this or tape crystals onto.
 
I am sadened and angered by the treatment you have recieved so far, I really feel like slapping someone!

You are right, when you say that you should not be in this pain after all these procedures, take Cassie's advice, get support and demaned a second opinion and a review of you present condition. You will have to be strong and determined to challenge the Doctors, and with support you can do it, its the only way forward. You need to know whats going on.

You are also right about the amount of heavy drugs you are taking that are only masking the problems. Take care!

Best of luck and kind thoughts


SPINELF
 
You know what we need is one of us going with each of us to the appointments? I would fight like a tiger for someone else! Myself I get all tongue tied and forgetful lol.
 
You know what we need is one of us going with each of us to the appointments?


I baggsy being yours, by crikey, we would kick some serious 'butt' would'nt we Cassie!!

SPINELF
 
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    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ COCO, ASHA, SANA, MONIKA, DELILAH, AMANDA, MIMI, KIRAN, MAY ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  34. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Mia, Nana & Sasa. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves. She can bbbj like a queen, & is open to dfk & cfs.
  35. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
  36. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Aad,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  37. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cici , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  38. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young pretty fun Sally and young cute Summer, Beautiful open mind Tina with curve body and GFE nice Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
  39. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Bella ๐Ÿ˜˜ is a beautiful Vietnamese busty girl, very sexy, with RMT style massage and very good playful service. So friendly, and nice. Summer โค๏ธ has nice sexy body, and nice breasts. She can give very good massage and fun service.
  40. GoldenFlower:
    FRIDAY at ๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒป GOLDEN FLOWER SPA๐ŸŒป ๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’›, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Mika to 7pm, Monica, Sherry & Tracy to 7pm. Arriving after 7pm: Jojo & Sonia Mika is a sexy petite Vietnamese lady who can take good care of all your needs. Monica is sweet, attractive and accommodating. Sherry is an attractive slim Asian sweetie.
  41. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel
  42. Dreaminn:
    FRIDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญDREAM INN WELLNESS SPA๐Ÿ’ญ: KELLY, LULU & New Girl NINA 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie) Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-829-2983 โ˜Ž๏ธ KELLY is a young & pretty Asian girl, very slim, 5โ€™3โ€ with very liberal services. LULU is a popular & well known Chinese attendant from another spa, very slim & beautiful, 5โ€™3โ€, 105 pounds with 34C Cups & incredible services.
  43. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  44. Sparkling Spa:
    Sassy Jennifer, Sex Goddess Zoe and JAV Chanel ready for you @Sparkling Spa๐Ÿ‘ŒMENTION OUR ADS AND RECEIVE A ROOM DISCOUNT $35 FOR 30MIN, $50 FOR 45MINโ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธCindy & Lina CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did.
  46. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ SANA, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  47. bumika.vashi:
    (((เค†เคชเค•เฅ‹ เคฌเคฟเคจเคพ เคจเคพเคŸเค• เคฏเคพ เคจเค–เคฐเฅ‡ เค•เคฐเคจเฅ‡ เคตเคพเคฒเคพ เคธเคฐเฅเคตเคฟเคธ เคšเคพเคนเฅ‡ เคคเฅ‹เคน เคฏเคพเคฆ เค•เคฐเคจเคพ. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to
  48. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’— โ„๐”ธโ„™โ„™๐• ๐”ธโ„™โ„๐•€๐•ƒ ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ APRIL 26th , FRIDAY ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 707-6866 ๐Ÿ•™๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸOpen 10:30-10:00๐Ÿ—บ#33-160 East Beaver Creek ๐Ÿ—บ 7 Rms ๐Ÿ›๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸTable Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸAttendants: We have 6๏ธโƒฃ today ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒนCHERRY ๐ŸŒน ๐Ÿ†• NAT ๐ŸŒนSOPHIE ๐ŸŒน ๐Ÿ†• OLIVIA ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• TINA ๐ŸŒน LUCY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ NEWSFLASH ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ CHERRY & ๐Ÿ†• TINA & OLIVIA & ๐Ÿ†• NAT & SOPHIE โ€˜ s BACK ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ TODAY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€
  49. Bodybuilder:
    how is Emily's English speaking? Are the picture close how she looks?
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, MALIYA, SANA, AMANDA, RAVEN, MAY, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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