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Do you ever feel sorry for these girls?

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A lot of these girls, especially the very good ones, have a completely distorted perception of reality.

They feel empowered. They think that they’re just using guys’ perversions against them for money, when in reality, it’s the girls who are being used by middle class men who don’t give a shit about a few hundred bucks.

We constantly see girls quit or say they’re ready to quit, and then come back. The latest being Katie @ Pure (whom I’ll be banging again very soon). They think they’ve got full control and can quit any time like turning a light switch on/off, when the reality is that the real world offers them very few options after beyond get a sugar daddy and become completely dependent on a guy (empowering?).

Sometimes, I’m with one of these girls and get depressed when I think about it.

Then I stuff them and feel better.
 
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Nah I don’t feel bad. If these girls weren’t hooking they wouldn’t be doing something better. That’s why you don’t see the hottest girls doing this, because the hottest girls have a lot more opportunities. They become an event planner or something like that and get a rich husband no problem, in a couple years they’re major MILFs. Walk through a business school sometime and you’ll see a lot more hot girls than at a spa. There’s a lot of opportunities out there for hot girls, but the girls at spas would be working at Walmart and having loser boyfriends if they weren’t doing this, that’s why they all come back because they know they can’t do better. You’re giving them the best life they’ll ever have, you shouldn’t feel bad about that.
 
If you felt that sorry for them, you wouldn't see them.
I don't feel bad for them. Life is all about choices. They choose to do this job and some of them really like it.
Sure they don't like some of the clients, but they do well financially.
 
I feel bad for some of them as this will most likely be their life for the foreseeable future (5-10 years???).
 
I don't see it as either individual is being used. It's a voluntary transaction in which both parties benefit. We're perfectly fine with any other exchange of labour for money but when it comes to sex work all of the sudden there's a perception one side is being used.
 
It is all about choices and actions. They choose this life or ther actions put them here. Nothing else.
 
Its easy money for them that's all it is pays better than other jobs
 
I don't see it as either individual is being used. It's a voluntary transaction in which both parties benefit. We're perfectly fine with any other exchange of labour for money but when it comes to sex work all of the sudden there's a perception one side is being used.

That’s true for many of them, who are just nice girls trying to get by. But then there are girls like Katie who, from conversation, obviously feels like she’s using us and is just trying to find a sugar daddy to use and abuse.
 
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Don’t read so much into it !
If we are talking about some kind of human trafficking for the purpose of prostitution that is a different thing all together . I wouldn’t waste your time worrying about these women cause they for damn sure aren’t worried about the men lol . As is posted above these women make a voluntary choice to enter this type of work , I believe it’s because of the fast easy money, my opinion is they are fucking lazy and don’t want to work as hard as is needed work and get ahead in a “normal” job . Maybe us men are the dumb fucks cause I know they are pulling in more cash than I am in a week . Than again they have to massage and fuck and suck and kiss all kinds of nasty fuckers for that cash !! I just don’t believe they have any shame at all
 
That’s true for many of them. I’m specifically commenting on girls like Katie who, from conversation, obviously feels like she’s using us and is trying to find a sugar daddy.

She’s using us and we’re using her only difference is that in a few years the money she’s using us for won’t have aged a bit but she will have, so we have the upper hand. That’s why the sugar daddy lifestyle doesn’t work out for these girls, because the guy can always find something new. How many girls have made a big deal about officially retiring and then cone back? So many. Katie is trying out her options, I get it, but she sees that she can’t live like she wants for long without us. Why worry, I’m just glad she’s back, she is one of the hottest girls and best FS girls ever.
 
I don't see it as either individual is being used. It's a voluntary transaction in which both parties benefit. We're perfectly fine with any other exchange of labour for money but when it comes to sex work all of the sudden there's a perception one side is being used.

Totally agree.

Really for anyone who has paid for a lot of lousy sessions, the ironic reality is that if one side is being used it's arguably not the young ladies!
 
The OP isn't being genuine, but I will still answer.

Feel sorry for what? The girls want to offer sex for money. All women exchange sex for money - your mother, your sister, your female co-workers. All women, essentially, act as 'whores'. Professional escorts are just more honest about it. And they do larger volumes of men than a civilian whore.

In my eyes, all women are prostitutes. I don't differentiate between an escort and a woman who marries a guy because he has a good job and can provide for her and 'her' children.

What is worse? A sexy, young 22 year old lady who fucks you for 1 hr @$250; or a wife that divorces you when you reach your maximum earnnig potential, refuses to let you have custody of the kids, and then demands child 'support' and alimony for the next 15 years, while she lives in the house that she forced you to leave, AND, fucks some new guy in the bed that you shared with her for the past 10 years. And you have to pay for it all because she is no longer happy.

All women are intolerable, devil-like cunts. Better to pay a girl a small amount and spend only 1 hour with her, than pay hundreds of thousands if not more and have her lawyer up and take all your property after she is done with you.
 
One problem for these girls is that the aging process is really hard on them because they age prematurely. They get that worn out look and jaded attitude so quickly compared to civilian girls. A girl like Katie only has a few years at her top earning potential but these girls aren’t good at saving so they end up staying as long as possible because they don’t have better options. I feel bad for those girls but that’s why I usually don’t see them if they’re older, it’s like going for a walk on the boulevard of broken dreams. When they’re young its still fun.
 
Don’t read so much into it !
If we are talking about some kind of human trafficking for the purpose of prostitution that is a different thing all together . I wouldn’t waste your time worrying about these women cause they for damn sure aren’t worried about the men lol . As is posted above these women make a voluntary choice to enter this type of work , I believe it’s because of the fast easy money, my opinion is they are fucking lazy and don’t want to work as hard as is needed work and get ahead in a “normal” job . Maybe us men are the dumb fucks cause I know they are pulling in more cash than I am in a week . Than again they have to massage and fuck and suck and kiss all kinds of nasty fuckers for that cash !! I just don’t believe they have any shame at all
I disagree with this. Many of them work very hard. And it isn't an easy job, no matter what a lot of people think. Any service-related job is hard.

As far as the money goes, it seems like the top girls at Premier make a lot of money each shift, but this isn't the case at every spa. It isn't uncommon for the girls at Muse or Flirt or Vivid or Sunshine to see 1-2 people in a shift. When they pay their fees to the spa, and you factor in their expenses (make-up, nails, hair, lingerie) it gets to be expensive.

And then some of the gorillas that walk in to see them. I don't envy them at all. But it beats making minimum wage.

I'd love to be a Hugh Hefner type, build a mansion, and be a sugar daddy to two dozen ladies. Not in this lifetime, though.
 
I do feel sorry sometimes.

It also depends on who it is. Many girls have talked openly to me that they feel its a “hustle”.

So go into sessions with that in mind.
 
I do feel sorry sometimes.

It also depends on who it is. Many girls have talked openly to me that they feel its a “hustle”.

So go into sessions with that in mind.

I have no problems with a girl feeling that way so long as I’m pumping her hard and my load winds up in her or on her. They all think they’re hustling but it’s a good trade when the girl has to provide good service. Let them hustle as long as they provide good service.
 
I disagree with this. Many of them work very hard. And it isn't an easy job, no matter what a lot of people think. Any service-related job is hard.

As far as the money goes, it seems like the top girls at Premier make a lot of money each shift, but this isn't the case at every spa. It isn't uncommon for the girls at Muse or Flirt or Vivid or Sunshine to see 1-2 people in a shift. When they pay their fees to the spa, and you factor in their expenses (make-up, nails, hair, lingerie) it gets to be expensive.

And then some of the gorillas that walk in to see them. I don't envy them at all. But it beats making minimum wage.

I'd love to be a Hugh Hefner type, build a mansion, and be a sugar daddy to two dozen ladies. Not in this lifetime, though.

If it wasn't an easy job, they wouldn't do it. Roofing is a tough job. Cutting down trees in a BC forest in the fall is a tough job.

Opening your legs and letting a man pound away at your kitty for 3 minutes isn't a tough job. If it was, how do these girls see clients back-to-back-to-back-to-back etc. in 1 day? A roofer can only do one roof, maybe two in one day and then they are done. The work is too taxing to do anything more.

At Premiere, the top girls do 8 clients a day. At the Chinese sex shops, they do 12 - 16 per day. If it was so hard to service a client, they wouldn't be able to service so many.

You must hate yourself more than I even realize. You want to rescue these girls and pay them to live with you in your mansion like Hugh Hefner. Why? Are you their saviour?
 
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A lot of these girls, especially the very good ones, have a completely distorted perception of reality.

We constantly see girls quit or say they’re ready to quit, and then come back.

They return and return and return again. Because it is an easy job and easy money. If it were harder than other jobs, they wouldn't return.
 
I only feel bad for providers when I see the obvious misogyny they need to deal with, often expressed in threads like these. :)

Why feel bad about that? These girls make money by catering to the urges of a lot of perverts, creeps, losers, anti-social misfits, unhappy men, etc etc etc. Take away those guys and the girls lose a huge percent of their income stream. I’m a nice guy but I don’t go to the spa to be nice I go for an easy fuck, it’s an escape from regular life and I don’t need to have the same inhibitions that I would with a civilian girl. That’s what you’re being paid for, so why complain? If someone works at a psych ward they deal with a lot of crazies as part of the job. If you’re a cop you don’t get to complain that you deal with assholes a lot. If you don’t like your client case you should get a different job except these girls want the money and they’re not qualified for anything else that pays, so take what you can get.
 
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    ✰ 416.299.5515 ✰ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough ✰ 🇻🇳 Mika 19Yrs Vietnamese 🇮🇳 Sonia from India 🇸🇬 Nancy from Singapore 🇭🇰 JoJo HongKong 🇯🇵 Tracy Japanese 🇲🇾 Linda Japanese 🇻🇳 Mimi 19Yrs Vietnamese 🇨🇳Kelly (New) is Chinese ꧁༺ PINK FLOWER SPA ༻꧂ 416.299.5515 ✰ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough ✰ XIN CHÀO QUÝ KHÁCH
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa 🌹❤️5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke 🌹🌹🌹🌹every day three girls 😘😘😘New girl Lucy sexy body and Cici and Helen Deep Tissue Massage table shower 🚿 body scrub 😘😘😘😘👍
  39. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet student Mia and young cute open mind Ivy with curve body, pretty GFE Lina 34DD and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
  40. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts Cindy , Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Sara,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massageSherry ,🏠 address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 🦵🦵👄👄🈵🈵👅👅
  41. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Mimi , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  42. Dreaminn:
    TUESDAY at 💭DREAM INN WELLNESS SPA💭: EVELYN, FIONA & LULU. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 647-829-2983 ☎️ EVELYN is💫A True Spinner!💫 with a beautiful face and tiny tiny body. A rare gem, 5’1” & only 95 pounds! She will rock your spinner lover’s world with her gfe services. FIONA is a slim, very beautiful and accommodating Chinese lady
  43. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel
  44. NewOriental:
    TUESDAY at NEW ORIENTAL SPA: HAPPY, TIANA & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 647-381-2688 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5’6” & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy. VIVIAN is a pretty and very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5’7” tall, with a slim figure.
  45. SunriseRH:
    TUESDAY at SUNRISE SPA: MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on☎️ 647-325-8086 ☎️ MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5’2” & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is a sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 Lbs. Summer has very good massage & services.
  46. GoldenFlower:
    TUESDAY at 💛⭐🌟🌻GOLDEN FLOWER SPA🌻🌟⭐💛, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Jojo, Linda & Molly. After 9pm: Sonia Jojo is a beautiful young fair skinned Hong Kong girl who can melt all your cares away. Linda is a pretty Vietnamese cutie with nice melons, curvy ass, and great services. Molly is a petite young Asian sweetheart
  47. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Cherry & best massage Rachel 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ CHERRY is a Vietnamese beauty, standing 1.62Cm tall & weighing 50Kg, with a nice 32C bust size. She is a sexy and charming lady with excellent service. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: Eva & Helen. Eva is young, slim, innocent & demure looks, but don’t let her innocent looks deceive. She can massage & service very well. Helen is a sweet and very lovable Asian beauty with just enough curves to tease you, and an attitude to please you.
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5’1” and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  50. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(437) 818-8896☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Angel 💕 Very beautiful girl from Taiwan, very curvy, young and sexy, she can provide a great massage and wonderful touch and super service. Angel is so sexy, especially her 34C breasts, which will make you drool and fall in love!
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