sexy violet...well worth it IMHO...

[Risika]

Hey what happened to your sig line?

 

[Cougar]

Sorry.

 

[Young Guy]

Wow, Malezia is a stunner! Although that price seems unrealistically low, even for a French Canadian girl? Do you know why Vivid ditched her? (ie, has she tested positively for HIV? Is she a heroin junkie? ...?)


Compare the rates charged by www.XXXVixons.com for what-I-would-consider lower-end ladies...

Philski

 

[Pompal 09.]

Pretty much.

 

[Ryan was born may 20th]

Ah I see some old school B&Sers I think if I had to rank those mentioned....

1) stella
2) tina
3) violet
4) emma

based on looks and quality of session. I might even put tina before stella.

 

[OntarioGreys]

Those fools who think they are getting something worth 450/hr need to stop screwing it up for the rest of us. You're skewing what the market can (cannot) bear to the wrong end of the scale.

Consider most average pornstars don't get paid anywhere as high as 450/hr, and the film company gets the rights, and the porn guy gets sex. What do you get, a massage !!!! good grief !!!

At least get a video that you can resell !

Also if you work it out, prentend you are a company that makes 450/hr for 8/hrs a day for 5 days a week, 52 weeks of the year =~1Million Dollars/yr

The day that an SP is worth that, I'll eat my shorts.

And yes, I've seen Violet even as far back as the b&s days.

 

[Sincerly Me...]

First of all, no one is screwing anything up for anyone. Some people hobby on the lower price of things, some hobby on the higher price of things. There have always been girls that charge more than 'industry standard' and that has not changed the industry standard.



Where do you get your statistic from? Industry standard is much HIGHER than $450/hr. Call any legitimate agency. Or were you talking about the 'lower end' girls? I have to say that you talk about the porn inustry like the girls are getting the shaft (pun intended) but for some, the exhibitionism and fame are worth giving over the rights to the film company. Believe it or not, but not all pornstars are in it for the fast money.


Well, an SP is NOT a company, and doesn't work 8 hrs a day 5 days a week. Most SP's that I know only take a few clients per WEEK, myself included.


I do understand that some of you think it's outrageous what I'm charging, but simply remember this: If it's out of your price range - DON'T PARTAKE. I don't hear people constantly bitching about HFH or Allure's prices over and over again with such maliciousness - they just go to a spa that is in their economic bracket.

 

[Mr. Fix It]

Adam Smith would be spinning in his grave...

Rolls Royce and Bentley owners are NOT screwing up car-ownership for people who can't afford ultra-luxury vehicles. People who pay for first-class airfare are NOT affecting the ability to buy coach-class.

www.XXXVixons.com and www.BellaModels.com are NOT preventing streetwalkers from making their $20 to buy their crackrocks - and some people will fly first-class to home, climb into their Bentleys at the airport, and cruise down to Jarvis to pay for just that level of service. Go figure.

Different people have different priorities, and different quality-standards.

I am NOT suggesting that it is impossible to find an SP who would provide the level or service _I_ seek for $120 through an agency, etc - but I don't believe she will remain at that rate for long, nor at that agency... nor necessarily in the business at all.

THAT is the free-market at work...

Whereas Jenna Jameson earns more than $1M US annually... for being a pornstar/SP. And if we took HER hourly rate ($2000/hr US) and extrapolated it out to 2000hr (40 hours per week, 50 weeks per year) she'd be earning $4 million US.

Philski

 

[Pompal 09.]

First, let me reveal the bias I have from experience. I've partaken at all different levels of the market. My conclusions are:
The service you get for $450/hr will not generally be any better than what you will get even at an $80 incall place.A $450 SP will likely be better dressed and more attractive than an $80 incall, but not necessarily any different from a $200/hr SP.A $450 SP will usually have a much nicer incall location if that is how she does business.A $450 SP will usually be better spoken and more sophisticated company if conversation is what you want or you need to take her to a social function.Some high priced SPs don't meet these general criteria.You can find all of the positive attributes of a $450 SP for $200/hr if you invest enough time and money. However, your experience will involve far more misses than hits.
Are $450 SPs twice as good as $200 SP's? Are they even "better"? In my opinion, neither is true. All that's true, from my experience, is that if you're a guy with more money than time on your hands, and you need someone who's likely to be able to hold a conversation, particularly in the company of business associates, and/or you have a fascination with the concept of "high price hookers" (i.e., in your mind, more $ equals better), then a $450 SP is likely the best bet for you. For the rest of us, there is no reason to pay that much.

Which brings me to my point about the market. The people who pay top dollar do not push the whole market higher. People who buy Ferrari's do not significantly affect the pricing of KIAs. You could make a more compelling argument that $450 SPs create a significant opportunity for other SPs to undercut them and capture more of the business.

I belong to a golf club. It's expensive to join. Is the course 2X better than another one I could join in the GTA area? Probably not. It's priced that way to make it exclusive. In other words, my club only wants people with certain income levels to belong to it (both for snobby reasons, and, more legitimately, to ensure certain spending levels in the pro shop and restaurant). However, the price of my club doesn't affect the price of a round at a public course like Don Valley.

As a result, most people would be wise to take a pass on this SP. But for some, she will be exactly what they're looking for.

 

[Scott H]

Violet, I think you're very well spoken/written. Based on what I read, I'd hire you as a price point analyst if I was having problems with a product that I thought should be fetching more in the market.

The concept of using porn as a marketing tool to find fat wallets who will pay for undefined services is sound. Not a bad hustle at all. However, I think you may have underestimated the level which today's John understands the market. I think most understand [for example] that this type of project (undefined service for a premium price for a girl that's done some porn) would probably go over better in a US based location/market (ie. Miami, LA, Dallas). That said, the higher demand would be based on the higher legal risks involved for both you and the John in those markets, hence why the market here has a pretty defined ceiling and floor to it as we're all playing within this legal-grey zone.

Based on your posts, I think you get this or you'd have set up shop in LA.

kkarn/

 

[just a thought]

It did with strippers, from $5 to $20. As for MP's it also has, $80 five years ago is about $160 nowadays (and that's not inflation). It's also happened with concerts. When more people pay a higher price, it moves the whole market up. Supporting a $450 precedent sends the wrong message.



Hmm stats, I googled them. But more importantly a site that you did some porn for says they pay upto $3300 for a weekend. Lets see: 4hrs a day max, so 8hrs for the weekend at $450/hr would be $3600. .... for photos and movie rights.



Lastly, sorry Violet if it seems I'm slagging you. It is a free market, you can charge what you like. You are an attractive woman, and if FS was on the menu I might think about it. The question is not if you are out of my price range, as you aren't. It's about perceived value for money. I've been with you before for massage, and while it was great it wasn't as stellar as some of the other HFH ladies, unless there is something I'm missing, I can't see any value in paying triple what I had paid in the past.

 

[Amrud the Tacosupremo!]

For me it's

1) Sydney
2) Violet
3) Chanel
4) Tina
5) Cecelia

I'd still recommend Violet but she's now just out of my price range. She's correct that many Pornstars will make well more then what she's asking for. I don't blame her for asking that amount but I don't think there be many takers in the GTA area given the amount of lower priced options that still offer high quality sessions.

 

[TAHA]

Ah I see Hornet didn't restrict himself to the afforementioned ladies so if I had to do a all time list for B&S it'd go a little something like this

1) Cecilia
2) Julia
3) Crystal
4) Lexus
5) Vanessa
6) Danielle