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I need some advice here....PLEASE......My father has OA, in his knees and hip. Just last week, he has experienced pain and swelling in his right hand AND only pain in his left hand. I need treatment options please.

Thank you...
 


Hi there!
Sorry about your fatherโ€™s pain. I know that Reiki helps any condition and pain. It really works miracles. The other modality that helps arthritis that I know of is Tibetan Sound Bowl Massage. It specifically targets joints and itโ€™s noninvasive. I truly believe in mind over matter. He will feel better if he talks to his knees and hips. Tell them how much he loves them, that he is sorry to neglect them. Tell them they can relax and go back to whole. The best time is while waking up or falling asleep, that is when the access to the subconscious is mostly open. Imagine while light washing over his knees and hips. And do it daily. Also, he probably has issues with his first chakra. Chakra balancing, meditation, yoga will help, but itโ€™s a long process. First chakra is the hardest to work on. Incorporate red color in daily life as much as possible: red underwear, red coffee mug, red glass, red food, even red light while sleeping. Hope it helps. Hope your father feels better. I pray for him!
 


Several of my clients tell me that nothing helps their OA like having a mild to moderate pressure, full body Swedish massage. I'm not entirely sure why, except that it gets the surface circulation increased, and certainly moves lymph. One of my friend/colleagues does Manual Lymph Drainage (chickly method) with OA clients and has great success.

Gentle massage over the affected areas may or may not have success, it's individual, as is range of motion activities. Mild exercise may help people with OA maintain their level of mobility, and in some cases may reduce pain and swelling. This should be approached carefully and moderately, as it can sometimes exacerbate swelling. Water exercise often works where regular exercise does not.

Shiatsu, indirect myofascial work, rebounding and Bowen Technique are all excellent modalities for OA, since they get things moving in a very gentle manner, both muscularly and fluids.
 


i agree with stacy - for my OA & RA clients, they do so much better when we can get to that emotionally "melted" state and just do a good, swedish massage with compressions.

good luck!
 


Osteoarthitis patients often show marked tightness, density, and restriction of the quads as well as tightness of the patella. Myofascial release to open up the quads and cap reduces the forces placed on the knee joint and patella, reducing pain and improving strength and function. I nearly always see an improvement in function. No change in the arthritis, as seen on an X-ray, but a marked reduction in pain. The same principles apply to other joints as well.
 


Hi! I'm sorry, too, about your father's pain. My story with OA is, I've had OA in my hips since I was 20 (I was hit by a car at 16 and it developed over time). A chiropractor took x-rays and diagnosed it, and then proceded to help with it and I've been completely pain free ever since (I'm 30 now, so it's been 10 years!). I also am in no danger of having hip replacements, which is a very real danger with OA in the hips.

For your father, I would definitely try Reiki! The Tibetan Sound Bowl massage is one I've never heard of and it sounds fascinating! I also like acupressure. There are certain points in the body that correspond with other parts, and since these points are located all over, the practitioner can work areas that are not painful, but that will benefit the affected areas. Yoga (and possibly pilates) may also help--a lot!

One thing I took for my hips that will also probably help is a natural nutritional supplement called MSM. It stands for some really long name, but I forget what it is. It's available at health food stores. I personally trust the "NOW" brand the most--their quality is decent. Apparently it contains collagen.

I tend to like combinations of therapies. Sure, I never know "which one" is "doing the most good", but I like to look at all the possible causative factors and take a multi-disciplinary approach. I also find that when I do, I get better faster, which is always the main goal, even if I don't know which one "did it". It's also possible that ALL the approaches I try each contribute in their own way, so it's a win-win :)

Good luck! I KNOW that natural therapies help, and that they can be just as effective (usually MORE so) than western medical options (which are usually invasive, expensive, and not without the side effects, which can sometimes do more harm than good), and I'm fairly certain there's something out there that can help your father. It's just a matter of finding which one or which combination is most effective, and this can vary from person to person or from condition to condition.

I hope he gets relief soon! I'm sure there'll be plenty of other awesome advice. I'm always amazed at the level of knowledge on this board! :)

Hugs,
~Jyoti
 


jyoti said:
One thing I took for my hips that will also probably help is a natural nutritional supplement called MSM. It stands for some really long name, but I forget what it is. It's available at health food stores. I personally trust the "NOW" brand the most--their quality is decent. Apparently it contains collagen.

MethylSulfonylMethane. It doesn't contain collagen but it does support healthy maintenance and production of collagen in the body. It's an excellent supplement for OA.

Little backstory: It's a dietary sulfur and was "discovered" and researched here at UofO, and the first publicly held license to distribute was a guy across town who had been horribly burned in an accident some years previous. He had purple keloid scars all over his arms, chest, face, neck. Used MSM daily, and the scars eventually went to normal, healthy skin. In fact now, nearly 25 years since he started using it, you can hardly tell he has burn scars.

One of the very first places he distributed a retail product - both single ingredient MSM and lotion containing MSM - was at the local health food store in my little hometown. My mother called the number on the bottle and talked with him, this was back in the 80s, and signed up as one of his original distributors. It's not an mlm, just a home business. I have her account now, or maybe they split them, since we are like 23a and 23b lol!

Around here we use it for all kinds of ailments: joint pain, acne, burns, mosquito bites, roseacea, ecxema, brittle nails...

One of the more famous uses was James Coburn who credits his late-life comeback to the movie biz to MSM. He had debilitating arthritis, could barely move, then started using MSM and recovered sufficiently to greatly increase his workload before he passed away.

/ramble. :lol:



(forgot the link: MSM at Rich Distributing. This is not a link to my account, it's direct. Not selling anything here. ;) )
 


Breathe said:
Several of my clients tell me that nothing helps their OA like having a mild to moderate pressure, full body Swedish massage. I'm not entirely sure why, except that it gets the surface circulation increased, and certainly moves lymph. One of my friend/colleagues does Manual Lymph Drainage (chickly method) with OA clients and has great success.

:iagree:

Angie
 


Very interesting info on MSM and thanks to the link!
And a beautiful website!
 


Wow, thanks Breathe! That's some awesome info about MSM :)

And I had no idea lymph drainage would help OA, either! That's too cool. I have GOT to try that. :)

Hugs,
~Jyoti
 


Hi! Sorry about your dad- I've been doing massage for over 22 years and approaching 60 it's not surprizing that i"m getting alittle arthritas in my hands-Ouch! Personally for my hands, I've found keeping my upper back loosened up with massage really helps- so just keeping the circulation healthy in the general areas really helps. Also has he been taking Glucasamine and Chondrotin? After about 10 years I thought I was going to have to quite. I started taking it and it gave me another 10 years to do massage! :D
 


Thanks for the extra info on the MSM, Breathe.

I met a doc in the early 90's who ranted and raved about it. I never took it, but have had a few clients who did and say they have good results.

This is enough for me to go out and try it now. I have a few hand ailments on occasion.

Thanks again!

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massageclips - nice to meet you. Always nice to have an oldie-but-goodie on the boards to keep us younger ones in line!

I am genuinely looking forward to more of yous posts. Such time and knowledge you'll pass on to us.
 


I use a fair bit of AIS to treat ostearthritis. It's not too fun for the clients early on, but I teach them to do as much for themselves as possible. So far all have showed significant reductions in redness and swelling, and report increased ROM with less discomfort... all within one week.
 


I have lupus and scleroderma, relatives to arthritis. I personally like medium to deeper Swedish massage along with some compressions. I work out and stretch on my own........so I'm a little leery of others doing any stretches on me......doesn't take much to go over that pain threshold. If I'm in a flare where the joints are swollen, light massage is ok. Haven't tried any other modalities, but they sound interesting.

Breathe, thanks for the info on MSM. I checked out the website and couldn't find any info on whether MSM negatively interacts with the drugs I'm taking now, like celebrex and prednisone. I know I have to be careful with some of the non-prescription products. Any ideas on this?
 
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    SATURDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: CICI, HELEN, YOYO & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ CICI is a slim 110 Lbs & pretty 23 years โ€œMust Tryโ€ honey, with all menus available. HELEN stands 5โ€™3โ€ & weighs 110 Lbs, with nice 34D pillows to comfort you. YOYO is JAPANESE, 21 Yrs, 5โ€™2โ€ & 115 Lbs, with a nice big ass & great service.
  32. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ HANA, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  33. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Ivy โค๏ธ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivyโ€™s good looks
  34. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Sophia and young sweet Yoyo with curve body open mind , pretty GFE Ella and fun Lina 36DD are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  35. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ PAYAL PEARL, MAY, NIMRAT, NINA, ANGELINA, MALIYA, SANA, MONIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  36. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Suki and Tiffany Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  37. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, LUNA, TIFFANY & WENDY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. LUNA is New today. Details to follow...
  38. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ SPA: SUMMER & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5โ€™6โ€ & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy.
  39. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  40. ASPA:
    SATUR๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny and best massage Rachel. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธMAGGIE & NANA. Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like.
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Niko & Tracy, *nicole tracy cindy Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Niko is tall, very pretty, and slim with a sexy body, natural C Cups and long nipples.
  43. Tajul Islam:
    how much Per hours rate only sex
  44. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Yoyo, Young Sexy Slim Chinese Emma, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  45. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Jessica and Mia Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available Today
  46. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have amazing girls today ๐ŸŒธ HELLEN, MONIKA, NINA, AMANDA, AAVI, ANGELINA, ANAYA, SANA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  47. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl Angel๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility with Victoria- Exotic beauty with great...
  48. KSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: HELEN, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HELEN is a pretty Chinese babe, 24, 5โ€™3โ€ & 115 Lbs, can provide good services. SUKI is 23, 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body. CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5โ€™3โ€ sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, CICI, TIFFANY & WENDY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. CICI is Chinese, 49 Kgs & 1M 57Cms, with nice D melons & an open services menu.
  50. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
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