Chat Moments of apparent clarity

[cali99]

At Candy Spa a couple of years ago I had a session with an MPA that was recommended to me. She was young, pretty and new to the game. I did what I could to make her feel comfortable but there was an awkward shyness to her. We ended up in cowgirl and after a while she seemed to relax and get into it. I looked up and her eyes were closed and she seemed to be off in the clouds. I realized she got past her shyness by just disappearing into sensation - I could have been anyone, even a big teddy bear with a dildo. However she got into the business, be it as a sexually enlightened person making a living from doing something she liked, or a person in a sad situation with few choices, she coped by owning what she was doing.

During sessions I too like to lose awareness by disappearing into sensation. This is both indulgent as well as self-protective - intellectually you know this 25 year old is only with you for the money, but you hope that they like something about being with you. Occasionally real moments do happen, especially with women you see more that once in two months. They might enjoy the sex, or more commonly, they really do want to please you, not just get things finished. Money makes things artificial, but humanity sometimes breaks through.

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and a clear light, seems to fall upon us all!

 

[cali99]

It sounds like you can relate. Our busy brains keep our lives and incomes going, but they can interfere with enjoying simple pleasures.

Interfere.. sometimes. But usually, the MPA, has every answer. Just depends on the mpa.

 

[extos]

I had my moment of clarity when I was doggying a well-reviewed highly recommended SP. I went in expecting an angel but what I saw was an emotionally broken girl with a multiverse portal for a pussy. I pounded and pounded for 20 mins wishing for that sweet release while she fake-moaned with her face buried in the sheets. During this, I glanced at the mirror - two young sexy figures in the most intimate act, a scene for a classical painting perhaps, but emotionally on different continents. And that's when it hit me - I'm trying to satisfy my hunger with soda pop. It's never gonna fill me and nourish me and the hunger is gonna get worse and worse. Anyway, long story short, I fake-cummed and got tf outta there. And I've since lost any desire to see any MPA or SP

Sad but true. This made me that think that for lots of guys, all they have access to is the soda pop. Nobody chooses this intentionally!

That said, it's a lot better than living a sexually repressed lifestyle. So I agree with everything you said except the ending.... I still think guys should still see MPAs or SPs to satisfy their sexual impulse, but more important to recognize that it's not a substitute for an emotionally fullfilling sex life.

 

[Dongo]

That is another valid point of view. In my life long experience, the jokes about the change in attitude of a woman toward sex and satisfying a partner often become reality once they have security locked in.
That is where the deviation from the monogamous life and marriage gets a foothold. Even some fake moans and a welcoming paid pussy are better that a scowl and repeated rejection.

If the gods smile on you and you meet a partner, even a professional that genuinely enjoys you and sex with you, its is fantastic.

 

[Bobbadoo]

No matter where, when and how one puts it, these girls are there to make money, period. Some are more natural to imitate intimacy, some even enjoy it to a degree, quite a few of them are really good at acting. No wonder it’s the most ancient profession! But at the end of the day, all illusions aside, it’s really only our cash that these women are after, and no amount of self persuasion will ever change that fact. There are really only four questions that one needs to be able to ask themselves before they go in: Who am I; where am I; why am I here; why do I need that. If you can ask yourself these and be fine with the answers, enjoy yourself and keep hobbying. Otherwise, move on to find another one, or you’ll be in everlasting conflict with yourself.

 

[UsefulIdiot]

Perhaps the real issue is with Nature itself. We are compelled to procreate, whether or not that is good for us personally (for example unwanted pregnancy or toxic partners). And we are compelled to survive in the short term, whether or not the methods we use serve us personally in the long term (e.g. having a well paid job that we hate). Us older guys have resources but not desirable bodies. Vice-versa for sex workers. But we are all human beings with needs for validation, acceptance and community. Once our basic needs are met we anguish over higher needs. Some of us become cold blooded (I definitely experienced that with SWs in Amsterdam). Some of us get out of the paid sex scene. Some become friends with SWs or customers. I just try to enjoy the sex, but it is hard to not ruminate. But the fact that I do means my basic needs are being met, so that is a positive. The fairest negotiations leave both parties at least a little dissatisfied.

 

[bathwaterbuyer]

Nah.. I don't think it was Chanel. Chanel is in her mid 30s who didn't do well at VIP and came over to Candy.

Your thinking about a different Chanel broski. The one useful is talking about is the same girl I called Coco. She started out at YI Ren back in 2019 for Michelle, then she worked again for Michelle when she purchased Candy Spa.
Coco/Chanel has a mother who suffers from schizophrenia, I fear Chanel also began exhibiting symptoms of it here in Canada. You hired her over at QQ spa for a while under the name Nikki.
And yes she is Taiwanese, but hasn't gone back to Taiwan since moving to Canada, her age would be about 24 now.

 

[UsefulIdiot]

Your thinking about a different Chanel broski. The one useful is talking about is the same girl I called Coco. She started out at YI Ren back in 2019 for Michelle, then she worked again for Michelle when she purchased Candy Spa.
Coco/Chanel has a mother who suffers from schizophrenia, I fear Chanel also began exhibiting symptoms of it here in Canada. You hired her over at QQ spa for a while under the name Nikki.
And yes she is Taiwanese, but hasn't gone back to Taiwan since moving to Canada, her age would be about 24 now.

I do not know why you guys are interested in who I saw, but if if helps these are the notes I took: "Taiwanese background, 5'8", slender, about 22, small breasts, beautiful, nice skin and bum. Friendly, low energy, sexy. Massage, tease, CBJ, 69, cowgirl, HJ. $50 room + $150 for extras". I saw her on 25July2020. Keep in mind I am not a good judge of height and age. And yes, I am a nerd who tracks a lot of things concerning my health and activities.

While I am here, in my last post I alluded to but did not mention Maslow's Hierarchy of needs. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs Theory

 

[Lemme B Free]

I do not know why you guys are interested in who I saw, but if if helps these are the notes I took: "Taiwanese background, 5'8", slender, about 22, small breasts, beautiful, nice skin and bum. Friendly, low energy, sexy. Massage, tease, CBJ, 69, cowgirl, HJ. $50 room + $150 for extras". I saw her on 25July2020. Keep in mind I am not a good judge of height and age. And yes, I am a nerd who tracks a lot of things concerning my health and activities.

While I am here, in my last post I alluded to but did not mention Maslow's Hierarchy of needs. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs Theory

I just cringe tipping a girl that much. I have had great sex for less. But thats me.

 

[Lemme B Free]

No matter where, when and how one puts it, these girls are there to make money, period. Some are more natural to imitate intimacy, some even enjoy it to a degree, quite a few of them are really good at acting. No wonder it’s the most ancient profession! But at the end of the day, all illusions aside, it’s really only our cash that these women are after, and no amount of self persuasion will ever change that fact. There are really only four questions that one needs to be able to ask themselves before they go in: Who am I; where am I; why am I here; why do I need that. If you can ask yourself these and be fine with the answers, enjoy yourself and keep hobbying. Otherwise, move on to find another one, or you’ll be in everlasting conflict with yourself.

A girl will give up cash if she doesn’t like you, and will take less cash if she does like you. So more complicated then you imply.

 

[Bobbadoo]

A girl will give up cash if she doesn’t like you, and will take less cash if she does like you. So more complicated then you imply.

True that. But no, it’s not complicated, it’s a standard business practice. And they are still there for cash, whichever way you look at it, because they are at work. I myself have fired clients at work that I didn’t like, even if it meant a temporary monetary loss, and gave discounts to the ones that I did, albeit to a very few of them. You often have to put on a mask. It’s just business. I need not to imply, I’m being rather straightforward.

 

[UsefulIdiot]

True that. But they are still there for cash, whichever way you look at it. I myself have fired clients at work that I didn’t like, even if it meant a temporary monetary loss, and gave discounts to the ones that I did, albeit to a very few of them. You often have to put on a mask. It’s just business. I need not to imply, I’m being rather straightforward.

For me it is like seeing a movie. Suspend disbelief when you are in the MP, return to reality when you leave. I do not need the MPA to have real feelings for me, just to treat me well. I do not believe anything they say but I appreciate it when they work hard to please me.

 

[Bobbadoo]

For me it is like seeing a movie. Suspend disbelief when you are in the MP, return to reality when you leave. I do not need the MPA to have real feelings for me, just to treat me well. I do not believe anything they say but I appreciate it when they work hard to please me.

Exactly.

 

[Lemme B Free]

True that. But no, it’s not complicated, it’s a standard business practice. And they are still there for cash, whichever way you look at it, because they are at work. I myself have fired clients at work that I didn’t like, even if it meant a temporary monetary loss, and gave discounts to the ones that I did, albeit to a very few of them. You often have to put on a mask. It’s just business. I need not to imply, I’m being rather straightforward.

It is because you said ”these girls are there to make money, period.”

With that “period” , I disagree.

 

[Lemme B Free]

For me it is like seeing a movie. Suspend disbelief when you are in the MP, return to reality when you leave. I do not need the MPA to have real feelings for me, just to treat me well. I do not believe anything they say but I appreciate it when they work hard to please me.

Agree to a point. But when a girl digs you a bit, it is fun.

 

[UsefulIdiot]

Agree to a point. But when a girl digs you a bit, it is fun.

It is great when that happens!

 

[Bobbadoo]

It is because you said ”these girls are there to make money, period.”

With that “period” , I disagree.

That’s fine. But wether we like it or not, the reason they are there is to make money, because they are at WORK.

 

[yyztohkg]

We all go to work to make money, but there are definitely customers we like less or more. And no matter how professional one is at the job every pro is still human, so I wouldn't completely discount the possibility of developing human feelings. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable, but the involved parties should recognize those developments and tread mindfully of the potential consequences.

 

[xtc27]

We all go to work to make money, but there are definitely customers we like less or more. And no matter how professional one is at the job every pro is still human, so I wouldn't completely discount the possibility of developing human feelings. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable, but the involved parties should recognize those developments and tread mindfully of the potential consequences.

Umm… so… what, turn down the discounts & free xxxtras?



Nah….

 

[Dongo]

We all go to work to make money, but there are definitely customers we like less or more. And no matter how professional one is at the job every pro is still human, so I wouldn't completely discount the possibility of developing human feelings. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable, but the involved parties should recognize those developments and tread mindfully of the potential consequences.

Agreed that the girls are "at work", however few jobs, in fact no other job I know means getting "physically intimate ". Notice I did not say becoming intimate in a mental sense, some girls can completely distance their thoughts from an encounter where they are doing the same things physically with a total stranger .. or a "regular" as they do with a S.O.
Others can develop big issues with this and that is where many turn to a diversion of reality such as coke or other pharmaceuticals to escape the mental ties. The money can be great, however the mental attachment given the right chemistry can be a torture.
This can be the case for the provider or the client, or both in these "business arrangements". I'm sure many of us have been there.