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Home Care Advice for insomnia sufferers?

Misfit_101

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Hi There,

I have a client that suffers from insomnia, she is in her late 50's and she is constantly on the go from morning til bedtime. I have already tried adversing her to wind down a bit before retiring to bed, like reading ortaking a relaxing bath with lavender added andcandles etc,but I think this is a lifetimehabbit. She has a problem getting off to sleep and when se does finally drop off she wakes again a couple of hours later, and thisgoes on through the night. I also advised that she cut down on tea and coffee, or at least try decaf.
When my client has a massage once a week she always sleeps so much better that night. I would like to be able to offer her some good home care advice for insomnia, has anybody got any suggestions?
 
Seems like you have done your best. Has she taken up any of your advice?
Maybe as she has therapy with you, she may not be adverse to seeking hypnotherapy.
Everyone's different, does she want to change (yet)?
Good luck.
 
Does she feel unwell from the lack of sleep? I am lucky if I get four hours straight - I go to bed around 11.30pm, and invariably wake up at 3.30 - sometimes wide awake, so much so I get up. It is arare day that Ilast beyond 5.30am.

I do notfeelunwell, and have a good level of energy until about 7pm, when I sit down to watch the box. I don't drink coffee after 11 in the morning, and no tea after 6pm - 'builders' or herbal- just water.

I love it in the summer months, as I can take the dog for a walk. I was once stopped by a concerned policeman at 4am, out on his rounds, asking if I was OK - think he thought I was up to no good! If he sees me nowadays, he just waves and smiles and carries on driving past!!

I have always been like this, since childhood, and am 51 now. Old age should be interesting as you are supposed to need less sleep!

If your client is generally fit and healthy, then I don't think she should worry herself too much about it. Presume she has tried all the usual things like I have:
No tea/coffee after 6pm
Warm bath with sedative oils before bed
Warm milk based drink
No TV in the bedroom
Read an 'uncomplicated' book
Abdominal breathing techniques (with the lights switched off)
Lettuce with evening meals (once suggested to me by a TCM doctor - something in the lettuce that induces relaxation)

I tried them all, but it didn't make any difference, so have just concluded it is 'me', so I make the most of the few quiet hours I have in the early mornings - sometimes you find me on here!
 
one of my clients liked to go to bed with a cup of peppermint tea!
the aromatherapy oil is listed as being contra indicated for insomniacs,
she has been sleeping better since cutting out the peppermint tea and having chamomile instead

HG
 
Thank you for all your replies. My client says she doesnt particularly feel unwell through lack of sleep, but does feel really tired alot of the time, and finds it frustrating during the night when she cant sleep. She doesnt like to get up as she says she would start pottering about and wake other members of her family. Having the holistic approach with my massage therapy I want to be able to help by offering some good homecare advice, as this would be quite rewarding not only to clients but for me too.

Hi jabbathehut! From what you have said about your lack sleep its seems for you it has its good points, as when you say its nice in the summer months when you cango for an early morning walk with the dog, it must bevery peaceful i would imagine. You did make me giggle about bumping into a police man lol. Thank you for some of your tips, and lettuce eh? I never knew that!! I will certainly mention that to her. Also hypnotherapy is a consideration too, thanks mysterious me.

I guess for some people it doesnt cause any problems, I personally love my sleep and always slept very well, and if i dont get a good nights sleep it leaves me feeling prettygrotty for the rest of the day.
 
With my own experience i find their are two major causes to insomnia.

1) alcohol. even if its only a glass of wine with dinner each night it can seriously affect soem peoples sleep. majority of people think they dont drink too much but even small amounts may be too much for them and their liver at night.

2) somethign on their mind/worries. is this person worrying about anything? no matter how minor this is what might be keeping her awake at night.


you can drink peppermint tea or hot milk beofre bed till the cows come home and soak your pillow in lavender untill you unconcious, but if the two above arent addresses then the insomnia will continue, IMO.

you have to realise that insomnia is generally waking up after a short while and not beign able to get back to sleep, they usually don't have a problem getting to sleep in the first place. so whats waking them up?


It can be very beneficial when they wake to go eat or drink soemthing heavy to release the sleep enducing chemicals. weetabix is a good one, also warm milk.
 
Such a difficult topic when so many things can be affect the insomnia. Mine is sporadic, mostly due to the menopause (isn't everything?). When I am on an early shift at work, up by 0445, I find I am sleeping fitfully and then keep waking up also, so am very tired when I do get up. I am quite lucky in that I try and give myself reiki last thing at night and usually fall asleep with my hand on the heart chakra. This doesn't stop me waking in the night. I don't drink tea or coffee so can't blame that, alcohol not too often as my job is safety critical. When I went through a three month period of little sleep each nightit stressed it stressed me greatly.Then realised it was the peri-menopause and I stopped worrying about not sleeping! Now I just acknowledge the inability to sleep and realise it's just 'me' for now.
 
Hi All,
I am 41 and been a poor sleeper for over 20 years due to shoulder discomfort, any way I know it is habitual, I once had sleeping tablets for a week and slept well for over 2 months( not continuous.......) then woke up one night thinking about someting that must have been important at the time>>>> then slept poorly for months. Last month , one of my clients said I looked tired and she could help with accupuncture so we swapped a few sessions, on the second session she detected a blockage somewhere in the neck region, stabbed me with a big needle, no pain but within 5 seconds i was fast asleep, she left me for 30 mins, it was like having a general aneasthetic(spelling?). I slept well for most of last month, until one of my kids woke me in the middle of the night feeling unwell, now I dont sleep again.
My mind is always active and when I awaken, I am racing thoughts in my head and have to get up! I dont drink tea,coffee, fizzy pop, in fact I only drink water and very weak squash. At about 5 in the evening when I am listening to the kids read school books I can hardly keep my eyes open I feel so tired.
I have suggested that they read me a bedtime story, but that didnt go down well! best of luck with the sleep thing anyway whatever you decide to try.
regards
Gaz
 
Hello Misfit,
I can see that you really taking care of her much, and decaf is a better suggestion also. I got also a friend who only have decaf no matter how she want the other, its for her good. Tho still, I don't get why she still stay up so late! Atleast, when she started to have decaf she said there's still a good effect!
 
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    Hi guys ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿคช๐ŸคชPhoenix blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนJessica sexy body big boobs ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜very good body slide ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนand Cici very good table shower๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ ๏ผŒHelen Deep Tissue Massage๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366
  33. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 9 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MALIYA, ASHA, SANA, PAOLA, TRACY, AMANDA, RAVEN, PAYAL PEARL, AAVI, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  34. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Turkish Persian girl and Asian girl today &Good service Cuban girl (Mimi)and Asian girl Yuki in Thursday
  35. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mia๐Ÿ˜ beautiful young Singapore girl. Mia has a very sexy body, and beautiful busty boobs and golden blonde hair. She can give a very good teasing and relaxing massage with a sensual great playful HAPPY service. So very sexy beautiful gir
  36. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet student Mia and young cute open mind Yoyo with 36DD , pretty GFE Lina 34DD and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
  37. hiyamickey:
    6 young petite girls working at Reynaella wellness, Address: 3555 14th Ave unit #7 Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-470-8082
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julie ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Dreaminn:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญDREAM INN WELLNESS SPA๐Ÿ’ญ: [ EVELYN, FIONA & LULU. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-829-2983 โ˜Ž๏ธ EVELYN is๐Ÿ’ซA True Spinner!๐Ÿ’ซ with a beautiful face and tiny tiny body. A rare gem, 5โ€™1โ€ & only 95 pounds! She will rock your spinner loverโ€™s world with her gfe services. FIONA is a slim, very beautiful and accommodating Chinese lady,5โ€™7"
  41. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly
  42. Sparkling Spa:
    Sexy Japanese Chanel and Sassy Jennifer will fulfill you needs to today @ SPARKLING SPA โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 No Spa like us anywhere near us
  43. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  44. NewOriental:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’šNEW ORIENTAL SPA๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY, TIANA & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-381-2688 โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5โ€™6โ€ & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy. VIVIAN is a pretty and very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5โ€™7โ€ tall
  45. GoldenFlower:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒป GOLDEN FLOWER SPA๐ŸŒป ๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’›, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Jojo, Linda, Sherry, & Tracy(to 8pm). After 8pm: Sonia Jojo is a beautiful young fair skinned Hong Kong girl who can melt all your cares away. Linda is a pretty Vietnamese cutie with nice melons, curvy ass, and great services. Sherry is an attractive slim Asian
  46. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ2 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ NANCY: A YOUNG AND PETITE VIETNAMESE GIRL, 5', THAT IS VERY FUN AND FRIENDLY, SHE IS OPEN MINDED ๐ŸŒธ EMILY: A PETITE CURVY THAI MIXED GIRL, 5'2, LONG BLACK HAIR AND SPEAKS FLUENT ENGLISH ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
  47. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธKelly & Kiki. Kelly is slim and attractive with very slight curves, a nice bum, and rockinโ€™ services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Bella & Sasa. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well
  50. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’— โ„๐”ธโ„™โ„™๐• ๐•„๐”ธ๐• ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ MAY 1st , WEDNESDAY ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 707-6866 ๐Ÿ•™๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸOpen 10:30-10:00๐Ÿ—บ#33-160 East Beaver Creek ๐Ÿ—บ 7 Rms ๐Ÿ›๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸTable Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸAttendants: We have 7๏ธโƒฃ today ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• TINA ๐ŸŒนSOPHIE ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• RICA ๐ŸŒน ๐Ÿ†• DAISY ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• NAT ๐ŸŒน ERICA ๐ŸŒนLUCY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ NEWSFLASH ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐Ÿ†• DAISY & ๐Ÿ†• NAT & SOPHIE & ๐Ÿ†• RICA & ๐Ÿ†•TINA & ERICA โ€˜ s BACK ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ TODAY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€
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