Happy Endings legal in Toronto ?

[Pompal 09.]

A MPA at MUSE told me happy endings are not illegal in Metro Toronto ( municipal bylaw thing)

Is this true ???????

 

[Arly]

Its for sure not legal at a holistic spa like muse

 

[Blue]

This entire website is devoted to happy endings. Clearly they happen... All the time. Even if they ARE illegal, it doesn't matter much, does it?

 

[Webz]

Post a review of the MPA, she thinks you are stupid and wanted to scare you so she wouldnt have to provide you with a happy ending. She is a scammer in my books.

 

[Doctor]

with respect to you lou, he said the MPA told him it IS NOT Illegal in Metro Toronto while it IS Illegal if you're hollistic.

 

[kaynoxdemon]

I'm not qualified to give legal advice, but my impression was that this is legal. Incall FS may not be (although the law about this has been struck down by the courts..)

 

[Slobo]

I don't think they are legal but rather they are tolerated.

 

[Maru Ramos]

Giving that there are municipal by laws and criminal laws your impression is wrong. Read the municipal by laws (for which the OP is basing his question on), and they are pretty darn specific as to what is legally permitted from a by law perspective in holistics. They have strict definitions as to what is not permitted.

Bodyrub regulations when I read them were more ambigous, with less spelled out restrictions, but not clear that it is permitted either.

What is tolerated may be different.

 

[I am a feet guy]

Pg 183 (Toronto) http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/municode/1184_545.pdf

 

[Universal]

Don't confuse criminal code with bylaws.

Bylaws don't prohibit sexual acts, just what the MPA can touch or sow. Not sure why a customer would give a damn about bylaws. They're just a business license matter for the owner.

 

[Heidi A]

When you (or the person you're quoting) defines their version of 'legal', then someone might be able to give you a useful answer. The first question is: By 'legal' do you mean no sort of law exists to prohibit what you/we are doing, or just no criminal law? The second would be: By 'legal' do you mean a Court of real authority has ruled that the laws do not prohibit what you/we are doing?

Courts have ruled that a handjob can be a sex act for money > an act of prostitution > therefore the place, and all in it could be charged under the bawdy-house parts of the Criminal Code. That would qualify the HJ as illegal in my books, although it's actually the managing, working in or being a customer in the place that's the offence.

One judge in one court ruled one time that the Crown hadn't proven the one HJ was ordered up, bought and specifically paid for, and that judge was willing to see it as an act of enthusiastic and spontaneous mutual pleasure with no fee of its own, and so decided there'd been insufficient proof of sex-for-money for a bawdy-house charge to stick. While it's some comfort, no one can use that ruling to force other judges to see your particular HJ the same way. Keep your fingers crossed when your lawyer tries it; better she should bargain you out.

But then there's still all the prohibitted by the bylaw stuff you, she or the management maybe getting up to. Like nekkidness, touching nipples, really naughty bits and the like (and do note that to keep up with this one, you'll have to know just what kind of license the place has, or doesn't have, and what city you're in). A bylaw is a law, one common definition of 'illegal' is doing stuff that a law says you mustn't. That includes most of the fun stuff, even if the HJ itself is left to the federal Criminal Code. Of course, most bylaws are treated by most people as kinda sketches of how it's supposed to work, with bearable penalties (at least if it's not your business) so you can read your version of illegal that way. Like parking in the No Stopping zone 'it was just for a sec officer'. But that doesn't make them legal.

If the answers were as simple as your question, lawyers would be paid like fast-food servers.

 

[rythm of infinty]

If paralegals have their way, they will be soon enough!

(thanks for the great explanation)

 

[xtc27]

Trust her? Been there before?

Put $$$ out, no discussion

Everything next = legal

"There was no QUID pro QUO!"

 

[Shag]

Trust her? Been there before?

Put $$$ out, no discussion

Everything next = legal

"There was no QUID pro QUO!"

Is there a backgrounder to this post. I gotta know, or not.

 

[xtc27]

"Purchasing sexual services and communicating in any place for that purpose is now a criminal offence for the first time in Canadian criminal law. "

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/c36faq/c36faq_eng.pdf

No communication, no crime.

 

[Shag]

"Purchasing sexual services and communicating in any place for that purpose is now a criminal offence for the first time in Canadian criminal law. "

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/c36faq/c36faq_eng.pdf

No communication, no crime.

Oh I get it now, putting $$$ on the bed, massage table is not communicating, but if you use your tongue to push your cheek out or pull down your pants, you are good as long as nobody opens their mouth....

Like what fun is that?

 

[Barney_B]

"Purchasing sexual services and communicating in any place for that purpose is now a criminal offence for the first time in Canadian criminal law. "

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/c36faq/c36faq_eng.pdf

No communication, no crime.

LE are solely interested on those who see minors or trafficking.

The shake down in spas is mostly about the owners and works. The CRA is looking for a fair share of taxes dollars.