Downtown-area MPs and procedures for beginner

[Elle]

Hi,

Just wondering what places there are downtown that the forumers here recommend. I'm not looking for the super-swanky top-dollar spa experience, but a dive would freak me out.

I'd also like to understand the etiquette. Do you just walk in, pay the door fee, ask for a NR or BS, and then negotiate for the HJ with the girl? Don't want to act like I'm green.

Finally, what are we talking about here? At least $150? Seems expensive, but I've always wanted to try it once.

And do MPA's ever offer FJ if you suggest it? Or do you need a SP for that?

 

[Micol]

There is no such thing as FJ (I assume you mean FS, or Full Service) offered in an MP ... that woul dbe illegal, and even if it were done, no one on this board would be stupid enough to provide such details, or even hint at it on a public board viewable by anyone, including the legal authorities.

What I can give you is some typical "proceudres", at least as they are in my experience:

Normally, you enter the premises, where someone (not necessarily the MPA who will be servicing you, but it could be) will lead you to the room, and ask how long you wish to stay ... prices range from between $30 to $40 ($40 is the normal charge these days, but some places are still $30, but are rare) per 1/2hr, to $80 for an hour. You pay the person for the time you want.

At this point I usually ask for a shower ... they will give you a towel, and directions to the showers if the shower is not "ensuite".

Usually there are also slippers and robe available ... you can choose to use bother, either, or none ... some people aren't comfortable using the slippers and robe as they are far far less likely to be cleaned after each use.

You go shower, then return to the room.

I usually sit on the edge of the table wrapped in my towel, but some people lay face down on the table ... up to you really. I like to be sitting there so I can greet my atendant when she comes in and check her out.

I usually hand her the towel so she can put it where ever it is she thinks it should be, and she can check out the "equipment" ... hopefully also letting her know that I am not the shy type, and have MP experience so she will be less likely to think I am LE, or a newbie that she can "upsell".

You then lay face down on the table, face placed into the "face hole" if the massage table has one, with your arms hanging down over the sides of the table.

The attendant will usually ask what kind of massage you would like, "hard or soft" ... I always ask for a hard massage, which can vary in RMT level depending upon the skill of the attendant ... I never have asked for a soft massage, so I can't really tell you what that would be like.

Anyway, the massage will start, and usually consists of some back, neck, arm, leg rubbing, of varying skill, intensity, and time ...

Eventually what normally then happens is what is called the "tease" phase ... This phase varies depending upon the girls style ... sometimes, it doesn't happen at all, but usually there is some form of teasing.

The "tease" can go something like this:

The girls starts to very lightly run her fingers over your back, eventually down to you butt, and lightly brush against your anus and balls ... if you arch your butt a bit, and groan a little, usually she gets the message and eventually reaches under a bit more and massage the boys a little bit more intensely, and even grabbing the sharft .

She will eventually ask you if you would like to "flip" or turn over ... and of course, you willing comply with the request.

Depening upon the girl and how comfortable she is with you, she might ask "where would you like me to massage now?" I've never felt the need to be coy, and usually just tell her "my cock", guide her hand to the shaft, or some other method of communicating that is not easily misunderstood.

Now, this is usually the point where she asks if there are any other options you would like ... and if she doesn't ask, then once again, don't be shy, ask her if there are any other options on the menu.

From there, you might get into a little game of "playing coy", where your suggestions as to what options you might like meet with some feigned "I don't understand what you are asking" ... believe me, you are not going to ask for anything these girls have never heard of before ... they are either checking you out to see if they can tell if you are LE (leagle authorities) or not, or possibly trying the old "I'm a virgin, so you have to pay top dollar to make me do that" game.

Anyway, depending upon the type of establishment (Body rub places can legally offer more options) the legal options can vary from $0 to $20 for HJ, $20 - $40, for topples, $40 - $60 for nude, $60 - $80 for nude reverse, $80 for Body Slide.

Once the options is decided upon, you usually, but not always, have to pay upfront.

As for downtown recommendations for a first timer?

I would probably recommend Natural Massage 144 Yonge (416)362-8828.

Sabrina is the owner of this place, and is a mature (late 30's early 40's) woman, not ugly, but certainly not eye candy, but her massage and HJ skills are among the best there is. You're not going to get anything beyond a really good massage and a skilled HJ finish, but for a first timer, this is a good way to introduce yourself into the wild wild world of massage hobbying. A low pressure and safe introduction. Ther eare usually other girls working at this place, but Sabrina is by far the most talented as far as the massage goes ... you *might* be able to get a few more advanced "options" from the other girls (maybe a topless option, but probably not much beyond that) but I can't vouch for their massage abilities.

If you do get Sabrina, you might want to be careful when asking for a hard massage .. she can really cause you some "nice pain", so unless you're into that kind of massage (I am) you might want to warn her that you may ask her to reduce the pressure if the pain gets to be too much.

If you are interested in the Sabrina experience, call an hour or so ahead of time to make sure she is there and available.

 

[Rissa C]

Magnificent introduction, Woolf! Worthy of being a Sticky. I might just add the question – “oil or powder?” before the massage starts.

 

[Fran]

Thanks for the advice.

Does anyone have any experience with Toronto Health Spa (THS)? It's quite close to me.

Anyway, I am willing to travel further if there are any MP's that are accessible by subway (even on the Sheppard line). I'm willing to do it if there are any recommended MP's that have nicer looking girls. I'm not looking for the best ever, but for my first time I rather be with a nice-looking provider who maybe isn't the most skilled, vs. a highly skilled provider that looks a bit "used-up" and might freak me out from continuing in the future.

Basically, a place with girls that look somewhere between attractive and girl-next-door. I.e. not like overtanned overmodified strippers who are clutching at their fast-receding prime.

 

[piink]

I've never been to THS, but my impression is that the sessions are expensive "hit and miss" ... but the girls seem to fit your bill in terms of looks ... just as long as you take into consideration the possibility of an uninspired session for too much money ... on the other hand, as I've never been there I could be completely off base.

I just hang out at Asian MPs, so if that is your thing I might be able to give some advice. Otherwise someone else might be better to offer some advice.

 

[GenderS]

THS is an upscale place with nice, somewhat expensively finished rooms and ensuite showers or hotubs with granite tile.

A lot, but not all of the ladies are quite good looking but the options pricing can be very high and vary wildly from one girl to the next. There are some values there but on the whole most of them are too predatory for my taste.

 

[PeAceOuT]

I wouldn't recommend 144 Yonge to a newbie. Every time I've been there, I've had to buy extra time just to get to the main event. There's at least one reviewer here who suffered 3 upsells in one session, then went home with blueballs. If a good massage is the most important thing, this place is a good choice. If a good massage really was the most important thing, you'd be on a different message board.

 

[? I Like To Dance ?]

Assuming that he is not LE, I was just thinking that archvillain is leaching much of the fun out of being a newb with such thorough research. When I started the hobby, things like massageplanet.net weren't readily available. Half of the challenge/thrill was trying someone new, and not knowing for sure how things would go. I My recommendation: go in, spend a few bucks, make a few mistakes, but have fun. We've all spent a dollar or two in our time that we regretted later, but I think that these few times are offset by the fun of trying someone you've never seen before, and the gems that you do come across.

Oh, and when you spend a few bucks, come back and tell us about it. We like to keep our files complete....

 

[Jesus]

By FJ do you mean Foot Job? If that is what you mean then that should not be a problematic request. Or at the very least it would be deemed more acceptable than requesting FS from an MPA.

 

[Chris69er]

Does anyone know whether the Crown has appealed?

 

[DrLove]

Archvillain may be LE indeed, trying to obtain evidence from massageplanet.net as to what the community might expect from pamemnt of such sums for massages. What better place to gather evidence than from a web forum that purports to represent the current belief systems and general approach to the massage/body rub industry? Especially to the question: what does the transaction really entail (i.e. what does the customer hear and pay for when BR NR and straight massage are offered by MPA)?

 

[Paul P]

I know...spellcheck next time...

 

[Span]

I had to look in the FAQ to figure out what LE meant.

Anyway, I'm not that at all. I've been thinking about doing this, on and off, for years. Sort of just for fun. If I only do it once I won't regret it; just wanted to make sure my first time wasn't totally botched due to a bad choice of provider.

I'm still not totally certain I'll go for it; there's a lot of stigma, and it isn't cheap. For the price you guys are talking about, I can get a return trip to Heathrow these days (low season).

 

[Kenny (:]

If you're thinking about doing it, just do it. Don't think, yes or no, should I or shouldn't I.
If you don't like it overall and don't go back, you'll at least know what it is like. Find a nice girl or keep looking for one...and you'll be hooked before you realize it.
Just do it.
(Or don't listen to us and choose your own place. Keep looking for better after that )
Good luck. My first experiences weren't recommended by the board. I don't really anybody's should. Just go and think of it as your dirty little secret that nobody knows about and that you can't tell anyone about.

 

[Christy A]

The taxes you'll pay to use that so-called low-price ticket to Heathrow would buy you a very expensive bodyslide at a top spa.

My experience/routine's a bit different: If it's a new place or provider, I tell them right away that my interest is NR or BS. Of course if I've returned for another session w/ a fave, that's a known constant. Either way, it tends to maximize the pleasure portion, at the cost of the massage part, to be sure, but I don't mind.

I've generally found I do best deferring to the attendant's "expertise"

 

[Gtrgtrvtr]

on the same token, the 911 fees & taxes alone equal price of ticket out of CDN. So all things in context, if you want the fun, you've to pay.

Things are no different in Thaidland, if you want safe fun, you pay more - only difference being the lower Baht.