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11 weeks post discectomy and still in pain HELP!

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I haven't been told a great deal about what I've had done although the specialist said he had completely removed dics L4 & L5. I am only 31 but have had lower back problems with sciatica since I was 19.
I hadn't elected to have this operation but had collapsed in severe pain with numbness from my waist down and an inability to pee! I had been in a lot of pain for a few weeks beforehand and I knew from 5 years ago when I had experienced a prolapsed disc what exactly I had done but this pain was far more excruciating.
Any way to cut a long story short, at this moment in time I am almost 11 weeks post-op and even though I do not have any lower back pain I havestill got numbness in my buttocks, down the back of my legs and in my feet through to mytoes and with that comes nerve pain which includes; burning sensations, tingling, shooting pains, constant pins and needles type feelings (but 100x stronger) and on a scale of 1-10 my pain is never any lower than a 4.
This amount of pain and nimbness is really starting to get me down and I don't feel as though physicians give me any straight answers.
I am having PT but it doesn't seem to be helping. I am able towalk, stand and sit but for only 5-10 mins max, I'mtrying out a TENS unit but that's not doing anything either.
I was told about a new drug on the market licensed for use on nerve pain - Cymbalta. Can anyone tell me if they've used it or heard of it? I am conventional pain relief at the moment:- cocodamol, voltarol and amitriptyline but they cause constipation and gut ache.
So if there is anyone out there that can tell me how long this will last or have any comments about pain relief you have had success with or just to let me know of your experiences or anything else that you think might help PLEASE, PLEASE let me know.

Many thanks and hope to hear from you soon.
 
Hi There. I suffered the same thing as yourself in December 2003. I am now able to walk although I use a leg brace as I have dropped foot and also use a crutch for support. I have made a good recovery on my left side but still have a lot of numbness on my right leg, thighs, buttocks and saddle area and suffer with bowel problems.

With regards to the nerve pain I have found that taking both amitrriptyline and gababentin helps a great deal but conventional pain relief does not touch the pain.

The numbness can apparently vary from patient to patient and depends on how damaged the nerves were during compression and how long they were compressed for. I have been advised by the specialist that this is probably as good as it is going to get for me. I just try to look forward and focus on the things that I can do and not what I used to be able to do. I thank my lucky stars that I can walk as it could have been a lot worse.
 
Hi -
In my experience working as ahospital pharmacistas part of the acute pain team, if you are after conventional western medicine, I would be more inclined to go along the route of Amitriptylline 10-25mg at night if you find that nerve pain "buring, stinging, tingling, pins & needles" is keeping you awake at night and Gaapentin 300-600mg three times a day rather than trying Cymbalta (which is NOT licensed for this type of pain , although is licensed for DIABETIC peripheral neuropathic pain) for these symptoms during the day. Additionally, whilst you may perceive that paracetamol is not helping, I would advise that you take this on a regular basis.

As a complementary/alternative therapist, I would also say that this is not the complete answer, and that you also need to address the underlying emotional feelings that go along with the pain.

Questions -Since the pain started when you were 19,was there something emotionally effecting you 1-2 years prior to this - some major emotional event? What was the trigger? Is there any emotion that leaves you feeling "numb"?

I have found that when you deal with these issues, then the pain usually just goes away, as it is not needed anymore. I would recommend that either Time Line Therapy TM or that EFT should help.
 
Many thanks to you both for your interest in me and all your help and info.
 
Hi SJB

Picking up maceuk's comment about addressing the underlying emotional issues, I am about to have my first session of SHEN this week... for my recovering back problem. Mine is of a lower grade (and different type) than yours, though when it was at its worst it was horrendously painful. If you are interested I'll PM you with how it goes, so that perhaps you could decide if it, or something similar, could be useful to you?

N x
 
I had my second L4-L5 microdiscectomy on 7/10 (1st one of 7/25/05). I began having pain in April, progressed to severe back spasms in May. MRI showed nothing. Then in June radiating pain into my L leg, footdrop and numbness. My doc was out of town and I was scheduled for a LESI at that time so I had that done (it was so painful!) with no help. When he came back I let him know about the neurological changes so he scheduled a CT/mylegram which showed the herniation. Surgery showed 3 big chunks of disc pressing on the sciatica.
I'm having PT 3X/wk and walk 2-3 miles every day I don't do PT. But I still have numbness/weakness/burning in my leg. I have to take a Percocet 10mg and Soma every night because when I get burning and tingling starting in the afternoon and by night it prevents me from resting. My doc said not to worry about the meds - not uncommon to need for some time. He said having a repeat surgery is always more difficult to bounce back from and more painful.
I'm an ER nurse so I'm taking 8 wks off from work. I still also have sciatica pain.
I'm so fearful of re-herniation. Doc has told me that if I reherniate, he'll have to do a fusion. That is my greatest fear. I'm only 51 and physically active - like to camp, canoe, etc. Plus I still have 14 yrs of work before even thinking about retiring.
I guess I'm just asking from reassurance from anyone who's been in this position.
Thanks for letting me vent!
 
I would advise seeking postural advice and developing core stability so that your muscles strengthen and relieve pressure on your joints.
Try a good Pilates practitioner/ Alexander Technique.
Sharon.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl maki
  35. Lulu1980:
    Hi guys ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿคช๐ŸคชPhoenix blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนJessica sexy body big boobs ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜very good body slide ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนand Cici very good table shower๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ ๏ผŒHelen Deep Tissue Massage๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366
  36. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 9 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MALIYA, ASHA, SANA, PAOLA, TRACY, AMANDA, RAVEN, PAYAL PEARL, AAVI, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Turkish Persian girl and Asian girl today &Good service Cuban girl (Mimi)and Asian girl Yuki in Thursday
  38. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mia๐Ÿ˜ beautiful young Singapore girl. Mia has a very sexy body, and beautiful busty boobs and golden blonde hair. She can give a very good teasing and relaxing massage with a sensual great playful HAPPY service. So very sexy beautiful gir
  39. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet student Mia and young cute open mind Yoyo with 36DD , pretty GFE Lina 34DD and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
  40. hiyamickey:
    6 young petite girls working at Reynaella wellness, Address: 3555 14th Ave unit #7 Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-470-8082
  41. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  42. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julie ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  43. Dreaminn:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญDREAM INN WELLNESS SPA๐Ÿ’ญ: [ EVELYN, FIONA & LULU. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-829-2983 โ˜Ž๏ธ EVELYN is๐Ÿ’ซA True Spinner!๐Ÿ’ซ with a beautiful face and tiny tiny body. A rare gem, 5โ€™1โ€ & only 95 pounds! She will rock your spinner loverโ€™s world with her gfe services. FIONA is a slim, very beautiful and accommodating Chinese lady,5โ€™7"
  44. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly
  45. Sparkling Spa:
    Sexy Japanese Chanel and Sassy Jennifer will fulfill you needs to today @ SPARKLING SPA โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 No Spa like us anywhere near us
  46. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  47. NewOriental:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’šNEW ORIENTAL SPA๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY, TIANA & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-381-2688 โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5โ€™6โ€ & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy. VIVIAN is a pretty and very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5โ€™7โ€ tall
  48. GoldenFlower:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒป GOLDEN FLOWER SPA๐ŸŒป ๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’›, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Jojo, Linda, Sherry, & Tracy(to 8pm). After 8pm: Sonia Jojo is a beautiful young fair skinned Hong Kong girl who can melt all your cares away. Linda is a pretty Vietnamese cutie with nice melons, curvy ass, and great services. Sherry is an attractive slim Asian
  49. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ2 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ NANCY: A YOUNG AND PETITE VIETNAMESE GIRL, 5', THAT IS VERY FUN AND FRIENDLY, SHE IS OPEN MINDED ๐ŸŒธ EMILY: A PETITE CURVY THAI MIXED GIRL, 5'2, LONG BLACK HAIR AND SPEAKS FLUENT ENGLISH ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
  50. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
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