Opinion Cheap ass lowlifes

[luvdafurburger]

asian bosses can be pain in the butt to work with. A lot of them are quite stubborn just like the mpas.

you shouldn't tell krayjee your intention. You are on officially on Krayjee's hit list in order to protect his turf and his empire.

I thought he was asking how he goes about Caddying for him on the course.
My bad.

 

[Cool-Story-Bro]

In my case, I put on my boxer - the girls know no HE this time.

Good idea.
But won't it disturb the flow of massage?

 

[cupcrazy]

I love this discussion, I've had it many times with the attendants and seen it at many spas myself.

The way it works with "most" holistic spas is the girls don't get any of the room fees. So if it's $40 for half an hour, that goes entirely to the spa. Meaning they work on tips alone. Some of the Asian places are cheaper usually because the owner does the massage herself and pockets the room fee along with whatever tip is provided so $100 total works for her. Or the owner will take a hit for the $40 room fee and pay commission to the attendant if the tip was adequate. Now I say "most" holistic spas because some pay commission and even some of the busier or stricter ones charge the attendants a shift fee.

RMT Asian locations work on commission, meaning while you'll see signs for and pay $60 for an hour RMT massage. The attendant doing the "RMT" massage won't actually have an RMT license but the receipt printed for your insurance will go through the owner's RMT license even though they didn't provide the service. I'm guessing the attendant would get a commission off that $60 plus the small tip for the massage.

Bodyrubs tend to be all-inclusive until you get in the room and want upgrades. Although some owners are strict and won't allow attendants to request more money. I'm limited to my knowledge of bodyrubs but this is my understanding of places I've been to myself.

What really makes it difficult for the attendants is explaining this to the first-time customers, especially those whose English is a little broken or lacking. It's also a little demeaning to offer a low price for a service they are providing, haggling over the typical price usually isn't a good way to start a session. This constant battle every day would put anyone in a foul mood, but most attendants have thick skin and march on dealing with the many problems that can walk in the door. I honestly think they are champs dealing with this day in and out and still staying positive and coming back to work.

just list the total fee to avoid confusions.

 

[xtc27]

I love this discussion, I've had it many times with the attendants and seen it at many spas myself.

The way it works with "most" holistic spas is the girls don't get any of the room fees. So if it's $40 for half an hour, that goes entirely to the spa. Meaning they work on tips alone. Some of the Asian places are cheaper usually because the owner does the massage herself and pockets the room fee along with whatever tip is provided so $100 total works for her. Or the owner will take a hit for the $40 room fee and pay commission to the attendant if the tip was adequate. Now I say "most" holistic spas because some pay commission and even some of the busier or stricter ones charge the attendants a shift fee.

RMT Asian locations work on commission, meaning while you'll see signs for and pay $60 for an hour RMT massage. The attendant doing the "RMT" massage won't actually have an RMT license but the receipt printed for your insurance will go through the owner's RMT license even though they didn't provide the service. I'm guessing the attendant would get a commission off that $60 plus the small tip for the massage.

Bodyrubs tend to be all-inclusive until you get in the room and want upgrades. Although some owners are strict and won't allow attendants to request more money. I'm limited to my knowledge of bodyrubs but this is my understanding of places I've been to myself.

What really makes it difficult for the attendants is explaining this to the first-time customers, especially those whose English is a little broken or lacking. It's also a little demeaning to offer a low price for a service they are providing, haggling over the typical price usually isn't a good way to start a session. This constant battle every day would put anyone in a foul mood, but most attendants have thick skin and march on dealing with the many problems that can walk in the door. I honestly think they are champs dealing with this day in and out and still staying positive and coming back to work.

… body rubs like Flirt, they keep like 50 of the 140… when Flirt has specials, still charge $90… they give rms 4 free, but girls gotta b paid….

Shangri-La gives girls some of rm fee…. Notice girls nvr quit there? But I no most dont…

Incredible some losers think $10 tip = hj… like u have a right 2 have strangers give u an orgasm? … intimate contact w strangers needs either cash … or time & talent!

… even heard some lame excuse that girl gave hj w/o askng… SMH…

Anna @ GW offered 2 give me HJ 3 times, & I repeated No! Nuthin happens till u say Yes…. & it coulda been freebie, I dont care, when girls not my type… … anyway, eventually Kelly helped me out, thatsa different story…

 

[onthe9spa]

just list the total fee to avoid confusions.

For legal reasons and people wanting different services are the reason we can't list nor assume what the total fee would be for a particular client..

 

[OG_funguy]

How come Anna offered to give you HJ? Her girls were busy?

… body rubs like Flirt, they keep like 50 of the 140… when Flirt has specials, still charge $90… they give rms 4 free, but girls gotta b paid….

Shangri-La gives girls some of rm fee…. Notice girls nvr quit there? But I no most dont…

Incredible some losers think $10 tip = hj… like u have a right 2 have strangers give u an orgasm? … intimate contact w strangers needs either cash … or time & talent!

… even heard some lame excuse that girl gave hj w/o askng… SMH…

Anna @ GW offered 2 give me HJ 3 times, & I repeated No! Nuthin happens till u say Yes…. & it coulda been freebie, I dont care, when girls not my type… … anyway, eventually Kelly helped me out, thatsa different story…

 

[bumzbumz]

It is not as "fun" as you think. There is a cost to stepping behind the curtain. any insider will tell you if they are honest

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LOL "behind the curtain"

 

[Mr.YMMV]

Tipping...

You can grab my share of tip from the dude after me.

 

[chromemaker]

Does Flirt still have special rates ?

 

[Deleted member 66315]

Can I just ask everyone’s opinion. Not including room fees. Hj $40. Cbj $80. Fs $100-120.
What’s $60 then?

so if you’re paying more than $80 total for hh he you’re paying too much, is that correct?

 

[Mav]

Can I just ask everyone’s opinion. Not including room fees. Hj $40. Cbj $80. Fs $100-120.
What’s $60 then?

so if you’re paying more than $80 total for hh he you’re paying too much, is that correct?

$60 is typically nude Massage or Nude reverse. $80 bodyslide. Maybe cbj too

 

[xtc27]

How come Anna offered to give you HJ? Her girls were busy?

… she digs me….

… Kelly stuck her head in the door… damn! Kelly’s pretty when those distractions aren’t there…

I said, can I do xxtras w her? … she’s kinda taken aback, surprised, then says, Sure! I’d been there 55 min, & she agreed, stay w her 30 min, call it 60 rm fee total, just tips 2 Kelly…

So 60 rm, 60 tips, 90 min, HE w Kelly… reviewed elsewhere… (shhh dont tell Crystal)

 

[OG_funguy]

But she tried 3 times? She likes you that much?

… she digs me….

… Kelly stuck her head in the door… damn! Kelly’s pretty when those distractions aren’t there…

I said, can I do xxtras w her? … she’s kinda taken aback, surprised, then says, Sure! I’d been there 55 min, & she agreed, stay w her 30 min, call it 60 rm fee total, just tips 2 Kelly…

So 60 rm, 60 tips, 90 min, HE w Kelly… reviewed elsewhere… (shhh dont tell Crystal)

 

[xtc27]

But she tried 3 times? She likes you that much?

I no, eh?

… think about SERVICE discount… 90 min = $60….

…. that’s a crush….

 

[Dotanuki]

LOL "behind the curtain"

Well outside of the pun. Hanging out in the office with the ladies you see and hear a lot. Worse when you can understand the language. The illusion is completely gone. However unlike some I provide them a service (non-sexual) of course so I am found useful

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[Frank Underwood]

Again. You are wrong. Anything, and I mean anything besides a massage is an extra and therefor a tip worthy service.

It is men like you who are ruining the trust of the women in the industry. You need to find another, less expensive hobby, or learn and play by the rules.

My friend, I spend thousands of dollars a week on escorts and massage parlors.

Places like:

QQ Spa, Seductions, Perla, Flirt, Steeles Royal, Pure, Vaughn Spa, Sunshine, and many others that are "body rub" places the handjob is included in the basic service.

If you are talking about holistic places or other places where the price of admission is $80/30 minutes that is a different story.

I have very openly admitted that the bulk of my hobbying is with escorts because I don't find that massage parlors offer a true GFE experience. I would not claim to know everything about every kind of massage. What I would assume as a client is, if you are paying $140/30 min or more for the service then you are in a bodyrub place and if so the handjob is included.

I could be wrong, because I never go into these places looking for a handjob but most conversations I have had with MPAs is that the handjob is included. I emphasize again AT PLACES SUCH AS THE ONES LISTED ABOVE, no clue what the market prices are for holistic etc...

 

[Frank Underwood]

Seems to me like you only go to fuck spas and don't have a good clue about what semi legit spa girls do. There are lots of semi legit spa girls who can provide much much better massage than licensed RMTs. I go to semi legit spas like JR and E&M quite often and sometimes to Kelly spa just for a good massage, whether I got a HE or not I always tip them $40 and up. I and a few of my friedns used to see Elaine and Daisy at Kelly spa regularly and we all tip $40 and up without any HE , a good massage and great personalty deserves a good tip. Your way of thinking only those who rubbed you , suck you and fuck you deserve good tip just appalled me. I have zero respect for guys like you.

Have you ever seen me write a review or comment on anything other than the "fuck spas"? So you may be right. The only "semi legit places" I have been to are the two or three places in Markham that have Saunas + Massage, and I have never had any interest in trying to get anything other than a massage there.

 

[Frank Underwood]

Licensed body rub like Flirt, HJ included … AMP, it’s not… so depends

… Flirt rm fee= $140… u can get fucked (cbj/cfs) @ AMP in West End for same $$$

… that’s what they ask BTW… I gave Lily @ eSpa $120 … totally earned it included CFS & bbbjcim finish… & she gave me $20 back! … she’s special, but most girls ask $100…

… incredible this FU comes here like some kinda expert & doesn’t no this…

I never claimed to be an expert in everything massage con artist

 

[Frank Underwood]

Cash before Ass.

If you don't live by that rule, it's your fault for getting cheated.

I'm never insulted when a lady is upfront about her price and insists on money first.

Owners are not training these girls properly on how to handle business.

 

[Frank Underwood]

I love this discussion, I've had it many times with the attendants and seen it at many spas myself.

The way it works with "most" holistic spas is the girls don't get any of the room fees. So if it's $40 for half an hour, that goes entirely to the spa. Meaning they work on tips alone. Some of the Asian places are cheaper usually because the owner does the massage herself and pockets the room fee along with whatever tip is provided so $100 total works for her. Or the owner will take a hit for the $40 room fee and pay commission to the attendant if the tip was adequate. Now I say "most" holistic spas because some pay commission and even some of the busier or stricter ones charge the attendants a shift fee.

RMT Asian locations work on commission, meaning while you'll see signs for and pay $60 for an hour RMT massage. The attendant doing the "RMT" massage won't actually have an RMT license but the receipt printed for your insurance will go through the owner's RMT license even though they didn't provide the service. I'm guessing the attendant would get a commission off that $60 plus the small tip for the massage.

Bodyrubs tend to be all-inclusive until you get in the room and want upgrades. Although some owners are strict and won't allow attendants to request more money. I'm limited to my knowledge of bodyrubs but this is my understanding of places I've been to myself.

What really makes it difficult for the attendants is explaining this to the first-time customers, especially those whose English is a little broken or lacking. It's also a little demeaning to offer a low price for a service they are providing, haggling over the typical price usually isn't a good way to start a session. This constant battle every day would put anyone in a foul mood, but most attendants have thick skin and march on dealing with the many problems that can walk in the door. I honestly think they are champs dealing with this day in and out and still staying positive and coming back to work.

THANK YOU!

In the initial post by the thread starter it wasn't made clear if the discussion was about holistic, body rubs or what not.

If you are paying $40 for 30 minute massage and you can't tip the girl then you are a cheap motherfucker. Body rubs include handjob, and that is what I would refer to as a "rub and tug" or am I wrong?