New to this, have some questions

Well, you can still eat ice cream and workout.

But also you're just going to die alone if you don't do something. Is that what your life is worth? Nothing? I'm guessing it's worth more than that. Your parent's didn't raise a kid, invest all this time and love just for you to waste it away by being a fucking fat piece of shit who bangs escorts.

You sound depressed. Go talk to your doctor, get on some meds and see if you can pull yourself out of this rut.
 
Yea, study the market price and if something sounds too good to be true, chances are it's not true....
70 for an hour? That's pretty low even for half an hour. I wouldn't complain if I'm getting a bargain, but this is way too good to be true when everyone else is charging around 200 an hour.
 
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Go to a reputable sp, better chance of getting what you paid for.
 
70 for an hour? That's pretty low even for half an hour. I wouldn't complain if I'm getting a bargain, but this is way to good to be true when everyone else is charging around 200 an hour.
70hh... @ least it is now... 🤷‍♂️

Quite a few 80hh on LL, & a few 60hh... so it’s not crazy...

She’s NMCOT... but high volume= gd way 2 make $$$ fast... get some regs, then boost $$$.... :money

She could b ok fuck... no reputation yet... prefer girls w reviews... rather pay xtra & get better service...
 
70hh... @ least it is now... 🤷‍♂️

Quite a few 80hh on LL, & a few 60hh... so it’s not crazy...

She’s NMCOT... but high volume= gd way 2 make $$$ fast... get some regs, then boost $$$.... :money

She could b ok fuck... no reputation yet... prefer girls w reviews... rather pay xtra & get better service...
Yeah I guess the 70 per hour was a typo. I did make a visit about 3 years ago, in run down apartment above a plaza in Etobicoke for 60 hh. But the ladies were not very desirable. Fake tits were the obsolete cheap type which were rock hard. But her pussy still felt pretty good.
 
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Well I am far from a "knuck dragger' To be frank some questions are out of bounds like one's home status.

Aside of that, this game has simple rules that when followed will be rewarding on both sides. Its when either party pushes the boundary past the line you have issues. Agression,being rude, haggling over price (as opposed to negotiation)and pushing for more that what is being provided. These things are not good and will give you a bad rep. This community is SMALL and they do speak to each other. Couple 100 a week won kill anyone.

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Ha ha ha. good words and advice as always.. dude seems to be getting a little too nosy for my liking but that may be on me and maybe I'm not reading things proper?
personally asking any member for private info on a public forum is not a good thing in my books! but I'm a knuckledragger so what do I know?
anyway, back to the girls: like you say, treat them well.. even when she slammed the door on me and wouldn't let me in, I stayed the course, apologized and learned a few lessons!
ha ha ha, charm!! OMG I ooze charm.. got charm by the boatloads!! I'm sexy and I know it!! ha ha ha, just kidding, but I do try and make sure the mpa remembers me, at least most mpa's.. and the fact that some of these girls do share very private things about themselves, I don't violate their trust.. just like anyone I know or meet in life!
like you said, be normal and nice with a little spice.. she will reward you!

all the best to everyone!
Agree, some question = Out o Bounds...

...when ball is out o bounds... you don't need to play it! So I just stepped on past that, answered what I wanted to... ⚾

..get paid the same either way!!!

Q1= Yeah, this one= 💩

Q2 & 3= how do u afford this hobby? = I can answer... but ultimately, all hobbies cost $$$, up 2u how much... baseball tix= several fucks a month, beer & coffee= 1.5 fucks, ttc= 1 fuck... turn all yr budget into fucks, & pretty e-z 2 budget... oh, conversion to HJ or BS pretty e-z, 2....

...then a buncha questions w/o #'s... like won't yr gf/wife give u a blowjob? Do Cowgirl? Whatever... dumb question. Whether she will or not... whether we have them or not... what difference?

Many dudes can get it free... :D .... including higher mileage stuff... but well, free = only about $$$... nothing ever free... :arrow

... &, WTF, still fun 2b with Emily & Lily @ eSpa, Lucy & Coco @ SL, Mei @ Flirt.... variety of awesome pretty girls always amazing!

U think dudes w pretty sexually frisky wives nvr have mistresses... ? :rolf
 
No one's answered his question.

First and foremost don't go to leolist .
You will have big chance of it flopping.
Have a shit session and be turned off.
Don't start there .

Yes we come from all backgrounds. Its pussy for God's sake. Who doesn't like a nice wet pussy on a hot chick with a great body and attractive face. I have spent 2k per month at my peak. Lost track and now it's a lifestyle that I manage .its my driver to Just make more money I'm beyond hobbying..lol

Back to your post..if you want cuddling and older girls(30+) Go to a escort agency..like top drawer or discreet or hot pink. Look at pics read reviews on terb and here to see what U like to Experience

Book 1hr ..plenty of time to chill out and get the butterflies going. Endorphins turning etc.

Now the disclaimer:
You will get addicted. You have to set a play budget . $150 per month is not realistic for someone starting out. Blow a whole bunch until you get the hang of it. Seriously your young. The best thing you can do is find out what you like.

Find out the type of girls your like and kind of scenarios you want and then adjust your budget accordingly. Call it a research phase

Sayng you like white girls is just a start
Some are gfe, some pse, some take control, some are submissive, some are slim some are bbw , some have tight pussys some have enhanced tits..etc..etc..the list goes on.

Until you find out what U like you will forever search and blow more money.
Once you narrow down your kind of Experience you spend your budget there.
Treat the girls respectfully, there whores but repect them. A small venture goes a long way . Don't fall in love. Save that for the cilivan girls.

This will give you confidence when the world opens back up. Yes you will still pay for seeing girls even after you find someone. That's normal you just reduce the time and money spent on these awesome whores and spend some on your SO.

That's the reality of this hobby.
Paying for pussy skips all the hassles ..its like jumping the line..😎. A fast pass.
Keep both lives separated, don't mix the 2 . Keep your stuff private from the girls. And create a hobbying persona just like the girls do. When you enter they room your "that guy" when you leave your " this guy" . That's how you will remain safe and sane.
 
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No one's answered his question.

First and foremost don't go to leolist .
You will have big chance of it flopping.
Have a shit session and be turned off.
Don't start there .

Yes we come from all backgrounds. Its pussy for God's sake. Who doesn't like a nice wet pussy on a hot chick with a great body and attractive face. I have spent 2k per month at my peak. Lost track and now it's a lifestyle that I manage .its my driver to Just make more money I'm beyond hobbying..lol

Back to your post..if you want cuddling and older girls(30+) Go to a escort agency..like top drawer or discreet or hot pink. Look at pics read reviews on terb and here to see what U like to Experience

Book 1hr ..plenty of time to chill out and get the butterflies going. Endorphins turning etc.

Now the disclaimer:
You will get addicted. You have to set a play budget . $150 per month is not realistic for someone starting out. Blow a whole bunch until you get the hang of it. Seriously your young. The best thing you can do is find out what you like.

Find out the type of girls your like and kind of scenarios you want and then adjust your budget accordingly. Call it a research phase

Sayng you like white girls is just a start
Some are gfe, some pse, some take control, some are submissive, some are slim some are bbw , some have tight pussys some have enhanced tits..etc..etc..the list goes on.

Until you find out what U like you will forever search and blow more money.
Once you narrow down your kind of Experience you spend your budget there.
Treat the girls respectfully, there whores but repect them. A small venture goes a long way . Don't fall in love. Save that for the cilivan girls.

This will give you confidence when the world opens back up. Yes you will still pay for seeing girls even after you find someone. That's normal you just reduce the time and money spent on these awesome whores and spend some on your SO.

That's the reality of this hobby.
Paying for pussy skips all the hassles ..its like jumping the line..😎. A fast pass.
Keep both lives separated, don't mix the 2 . Keep your stuff private from the girls. And create a hobbying persona just like the girls do. When you enter they room your "that guy" when you leave your " this guy" . That's how you will remain safe and sane.
... weird thing is... since u don’t need relationship to get sex anymore... u chill out, relax, way more cool... :cool:

..& better relationships & sex follows... with same girls u got nowhere b4.. .

Ofc, u gotta keep it together... if u get addicted or fall in luv... not gd... :no
 
I am hooked in this hobby. First experience I was 24. Started off a curiosity and didn’t know about extras till I became single and started checking out spas. Then website like this a terb helps find which places to go and share experiences. I’m in my 40’s now and I get bored easily when dating. I blame it on this hobby. It’s convenient and can see many different MPA, it’s fun but it changes my view on relationship (or something meaningful). I tried quitting but to get me over the motivation hump (lack thereof and looking for excitement) this gives me the thrill. I stopped going to SP since the last scary moment of feeling getting busted. I say don’t hobby as much, then again, do what’s best for you. I stopped counting how much I spend, last sept and leading to the second lockdown; I’ve gone every two weeks at premier spas. So it’s $150 plus tips. So it’s $250 every two weeks for two months stretch. And now I’m fighting the urge lol

don’t do it, save money, find a good friend. Stay young!
 
No one's answered his question.

First and foremost don't go to leolist .
You will have big chance of it flopping.
Have a shit session and be turned off.
Don't start there .

Yes we come from all backgrounds. Its pussy for God's sake. Who doesn't like a nice wet pussy on a hot chick with a great body and attractive face. I have spent 2k per month at my peak. Lost track and now it's a lifestyle that I manage .its my driver to Just make more money I'm beyond hobbying..lol

Back to your post..if you want cuddling and older girls(30+) Go to a escort agency..like top drawer or discreet or hot pink. Look at pics read reviews on terb and here to see what U like to Experience

Book 1hr ..plenty of time to chill out and get the butterflies going. Endorphins turning etc.

Now the disclaimer:
You will get addicted. You have to set a play budget . $150 per month is not realistic for someone starting out. Blow a whole bunch until you get the hang of it. Seriously your young. The best thing you can do is find out what you like.

Find out the type of girls your like and kind of scenarios you want and then adjust your budget accordingly. Call it a research phase

Sayng you like white girls is just a start
Some are gfe, some pse, some take control, some are submissive, some are slim some are bbw , some have tight pussys some have enhanced tits..etc..etc..the list goes on.

Until you find out what U like you will forever search and blow more money.
Once you narrow down your kind of Experience you spend your budget there.
Treat the girls respectfully, there whores but repect them. A small venture goes a long way . Don't fall in love. Save that for the cilivan girls.

This will give you confidence when the world opens back up. Yes you will still pay for seeing girls even after you find someone. That's normal you just reduce the time and money spent on these awesome whores and spend some on your SO.

That's the reality of this hobby.
Paying for pussy skips all the hassles ..its like jumping the line..😎. A fast pass.
Keep both lives separated, don't mix the 2 . Keep your stuff private from the girls. And create a hobbying persona just like the girls do. When you enter they room your "that guy" when you leave your " this guy" . That's how you will remain safe and sane.

Goddamn, this is pretty informative. Thank you for this. I really appreciate it.

Haven't posted in those few days because I got busy with work and was jacking off like crazy, so the sex-drive was really low. Now I'm back to wanting some sort of interaction with women.

I get what the other guys are saying; I can hit the gym and get jacked to increase my chances of finding a gf. But still, that will take at least 6-7 months to even get basic musculature. Am I supposed to stay bored until then? I have no problem with paying for some girls right now while continuing to "improve myself" and then when the time is right I'll head out into the world and get a real girlfriend aka free pussy.
 
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    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple😘 - Brand new girl from Taiwan just ar
  30. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Foxy -🔥Your new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5’7” sexy Korean girl with a wild ro
  31. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Monica ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Wendy ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,🏠 address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👅👅🦵🦵🈵🈵👄👄
  32. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lucky, Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  33. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 SPA: JUDY. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ JUDY is a YOUNG AND ATTRACTIVE Chinese girl. Details to follow, & hopefully a pic...
  34. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Ivy ❤️ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivy’s good looks
  35. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Young Slim Sexy Chinese Emma, Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  36. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at 🍏💚𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔💚🍏: HAPPY & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5’4” and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets and very open minded.
  37. ASPA:
    SATUR𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Jenny and best massage Rachel. 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36C’s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  38. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️MAGGIE, TARA & YOYO. Maggie is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. Tara is a young & pretty Asian girl with big melons and fun services. New Girl Yoyo is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups
  39. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ KAJAL, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Niko & Tracy, *nicole tracy cindy Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Niko/color] is tall, very pretty, and slim with a sexy body, natural C Cups and long nipples.
  41. Dreaminn:
    SATURDAY at 💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: ELSA, SOPHIA & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ ELSA is slim, petite & very pretty student, early 20’s about 5’2” and 105 Lbs. Elsa has an innocent look about her, but she can drive you wild with pleasure, and provides a great massage. SOPHIA is a young & beautiful 21 year old Vietnamese lady, slim
  42. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet student Sophia and young cute Yoyo with 36DD , pretty Ella and fun GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa ♨️♨️♨️ table shower body scrub 👍👍👍We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Suki and Tiffany Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici🤗🤗🤗🤗5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call ☎️416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 PAYAL PEARL, MONIKA, NIMRAT, PAOLA, RAVEN, MALIYA, AAVI, KANIKA, KIRAN 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Moon203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st Turkish Persian girl &big boobs BoBo in Friday and Saturday
  46. KSpa:
    FRIDAY at 𝐊 𝐒𝐏𝐀: HELEN, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟵𝟮-𝟳𝟱𝟲𝟴 ☎️ HELEN is a pretty Chinese babe, 24, 5’3” & 115 Lbs, can provide good services. SUKI is 23, 5’2” & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body. CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5’3” sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares
  47. SunriseRH:
    FRIDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: EMMA & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ EMMA is a very young girl from Portugal, tall, skinny & beautiful. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
  48. NewOriental:
    FRIDAY at 🍏💚𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔💚🍏: HAPPY, HELEN & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. HELEN is a young, slim & very sexy Vietnamese lady. She not only looks good, she IS good. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5’4” and 105Lbs
  49. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 LUCY, ASHA, NISHA, AMANDA, MAY, SARIKA, KIRAN, SANA 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  50. ASPA:
    𝗙𝗥𝗜𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗮𝘁 𝗔 𝗦𝗣𝗔: 𝗔𝗺𝘆 & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
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