Future massage prices

[luvrgirlz]

Hey Qster. The long term provider that moved. Would that be Miss V?
I would pay a tiney fortune to see her again

 

[luvrgirlz]

And a super generous donation to a charity of your choice for any info on that great lady, haha

 

[luvrgirlz]

As far as No. 1, the only lady I have seen recently goes by Sandy but is Amy (Cici at Nana)
She is always great for me
I know a lot of guys think she is pushy but after time she is very respectfuland I love her sessions

 

[Cabinmon]

As far as No. 1, the only lady I have seen recently goes by Sandy but is Amy (Cici at Nana)
She is always great for me
I know a lot of guys think she is pushy but after time she is very respectfuland I love her sessions

Amazingly beautiful especially for her age and I think she’s learned some hard lessons

 

[Qster]

Hey Qster. The long term provider that moved. Would that be Miss V?
I would pay a tiney fortune to see her again

So would I... So would I. But Ms. V's story was different, she LIVED in Edmonton and we let her slip away. What I said was really a mashed-up tale of a bunch of similar things I have heard from different ladies.

When I told the story, I was originally thinking of Ms. V's student, Ms. Angela, who lives in Vancouver, came to work in Calgary 3 weeks at a time, 3 weeks on, one week off but only the summer months etc etc, she makes up her own rules now. We are still fortunate enough that we can still see Angela when she visits Calgary. Although we consider Ms. V and Ms. Angela's services to be surperior here, when I visit Ms. V's old spa in Richmond, almost everyone there is younger and provides the same level of service at a lower price than what we pay here, around $180 an hour. Competitions do drive up service level and drive down prices. As a lady age, it becomes harder to compete in a market like Vancouver, you can only up your service level so much. My pure guess only, if Ms. Angela works in Vancouver, she is probably the same $180 per hour but in Calgary she is charging $280 an hour (unless you are Albertaman, she likes him so he pays less, lol). Supply and demand, there is a limited supply of Ms. Angela in this market and there was an excess demand; but who knows that will happen after this mess.

Then I realized that the story was also echoed by several others. Like Lily (not her real name, one of her usual stage names when she visited our town), a non-RMT micro girl I have learned to like; she lives in Vancouver with her mother & child, comes to Alberta to work 2 months at a time and she rotates through c-town, e-town, Red Deer, etc etc; if you think our prices are high here, wait till you see the Grande Prairie and Fort Mac prices. Also, similar to a regular RMT that I visit here, I have decided not to use her name here as I am sure she does not want too many to know that she actually lives at the spa. Some of you old dogs probably already know which spa, where the second room on the left is the visiting girls' sleeping quarter. Lastly, a different spa in Calgary, Albertaman would know this one, the spa where the sisters operate, their sleeping quarter in right at the back and all of that spa's ladies come from Vancouver; I was fortunate enough to get to hang out in the room while the girls eat their supper.

On a complete side note, hanging out in the backroom taught me one thing, we are on cctv as soon as we are within 100m of the door, we try to be discreet when we walk up but it usually does not work, the girls are almost always right as to who is a customer and who is going to walk straight on by.

 

[JAV4fun]

As far as No. 1, the only lady I have seen recently goes by Sandy but is Amy (Cici at Nana)
She is always great for me
I know a lot of guys think she is pushy but after time she is very respectfuland I love her sessions

True about Amy, she is a nice lady if you know her well. She looks good for her age.

 

[luckydog]

I typically don't comment on how I feel about pricing. Two reasons; one is I am fortunate to have extra income so getting a $ deal is not a priority for me. Second, I feel sometimes when discussions of pricing comes up we end up talking about women as if they are a commodity but from whom we want a service that is very personal. Its a conflict for me. Not judging anyone else.

This is a transactional service. They do it for economic reasons more than anything else. We do it to get the service we want but often for the lowest price possible. IF you run a business you have a pricing strategy and often businesses collaborate (or conspire) on pricing because it benefits them. I have done that in my business. I had the lowest price strategy for a while and it got me new business but not all that profitable. I really don't know what their expenses are (room fees or % of take to the studio). I imagine many take home less than 50% of the 120 I pay. TO those that say hey, that is still 50 or 60 per hour and more than I make, I say are you massaging strangers and giving them handjobs and whatever else? $40 or $50 or $60 per hour seems like a reasonable market wage for the services provided.

Whether the service is affordable is a market question. If you pay what you cannot afford, the rates will not decrease. But also there is a whack of products and services I cannot afford and if I can't afford them no amount of me complaining about the price will lower the price or end up with me buying something I can't afford.

Asking a provider to lower her rates to accommodate your budget is one way to think. But what if the providers said to you, Why don't you earn more money so you can enjoy my service? Just saying.

 

[Guy2013]

Its interesting that as clients most want superior service at a low price. Having spent many years in business i know the following is true
Quality, Service, Price...........Pick any two, you can't have all three

The reality is providers need to make a decent living or they cant stay in the business or they simply move one to greener pastures . I remember Miss V telling me that Calgary was a much better city for her , clients in Edmonton were "too cheap", so we lost Miss V and to this day we still whine about the glory days when she was in Edmonton and available.

In my younger days I played the field, always settling for quantity over quality and hoping I would find that elusive RMT who would fill all my fantasies. As I mellowed with age I have changed my approach and find it works much better for me. So, while I don't have unlimited funds I have found what serves me best is not ever negotiating, finding a quality provider with great service and paying the asking price. I try not to bounce around too much as that way I can support a few favorites, in turn this support generally guarantee's continued great service. Over the years I have started with a couple of legitimate RMT's where extras were not on the menu, with time as they grew to know me as a loyal client things progressed from the occasional brush of the LG, to HE's ( in a couple of cases BBBJ's). I never had to pressure, things simply evolved with time as I became a loyal and favored client.

Just my thoughts on the matter

 

[Albertaman]

My take on pricing. After the initial euphoria on the re-openings with several weeks of guys paying out extra money for sub par services at most places (the best providers will still be the best, and will work hard and provide the best services) the reality will set in. The province has entered a major down cycle. The rip off providers will disappear over the next 12 months. There will be many new independent providers. This recession will be like no other in recent memory. Most recessions affect male workers disproportionately. Not this one. An equal or even greater impact on women in the services industry. I expect that by September there will be a substantial downward pressure on massage rates. There will be less insurance dollars too. Huge unemployment. Expect spa rates to drop to 65-70 range, home based to be in 55 or lower range. Extras, YMMV.

By next year, The politicians will be running around like headless chickens all proclaiming how they really didn't support total lockdown but were forced into it. Absolutely, we got to save lives, but we got reckless in how we did it. We destroyed Cdn families, while pretending to save lives. Shameful.


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[Albertaman]

My take on pricing. After the initial euphoria on the re-openings with several weeks of guys paying out extra money for sub par services at most places (the best providers will still be the best, and will work hard and provide the best services) the reality will set in. The province has entered a major down cycle. The rip off providers will disappear over the next 12 months. There will be many new independent providers. This recession will be like no other in recent memory. Most recessions affect male workers disproportionately. Not this one. An equal or even greater impact on women in the services industry. I expect that by September there will be a substantial downward pressure on massage rates. There will be less insurance dollars too. Huge unemployment. Expect spa rates to drop to 65-70 range, home based to be in 55 or lower range. Extras, YMMV.

By next year, The politicians will be running around like headless chickens all proclaiming how they really didn't support total lockdown but were forced into it. Absolutely, we got to save lives, but we got reckless in how we did it. We destroyed Cdn families, while pretending to save lives. Shameful.


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And the Trudeau scourge fucks Alberta a second time and everyone caves in.

And small businesses .. check Purple Perk cafe.. are not allowed to make a mistake.. the frigging doctor is another self aggrandizing "front line worker" .. really? Doing what? And the Facebook children are so full of it living in their parents' basements. Not a surprise, China will win. Against nations of Wussies.




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[Rubmegood]

Yes, Albertaman, I believe you are painting but a dim picture of the fallout from this 'pandemic' fiasco. Yes there will be a very brief rush on massage services but very quickly they will be back in stiff (pardon the pun!) competition for the few of us that can afford a massage. All the unemployed people that had insurance coverage for massages as their only source of funding for a massage will be gone. Or companies will stop providing such frivolous perks in hiring. And anyone with a job that pays enough beyond the essentials for a massage will be also unemployed. Only the providers with the lower prices and best services will survive.

Overall, the effects of all this is going to be SO wide ranging and long lasting that we will be generations in recovering and paying the national debt. Personal bankruptcies; businesses permanently closing; failed marriages; suicides... Meanwhile city council is arguing over which lanes of traffic should be closed so we can provide proper "social distancing" for pedestrians!

Don't get me wrong. For savvy investors, this will be the opportunity of a lifetime! This event will bring about huge innovations and provide an opening for a lot of new businesses and new directions for surviving businesses if they are smart. And those people that were wise enough to invest financially in stable market funds or stocks before this all started will be rich (or richer...).... aanndd.... visiting massage establishments!

 

[Bullet]

Back to the original question
Well here is my take.
As soon as the MP's open again they will jack up the prices. the old Supply and Demand
Its the same as before . There are always the CLOWNS who pay a lot for crappy Service and these so called therapist know this.
I know of one who pays 200 + for an 1/2 massage with NHJ at a local AMP.
Even with Canada and Alberta in a toilet bowl I don't think things will change if not very little in the massage industry.

just my opinion

 

[UserNameTaken]

My take on pricing. After the initial euphoria on the re-openings with several weeks of guys paying out extra money for sub par services at most places (the best providers will still be the best, and will work hard and provide the best services) the reality will set in. The province has entered a major down cycle. The rip off providers will disappear over the next 12 months. There will be many new independent providers. This recession will be like no other in recent memory. Most recessions affect male workers disproportionately. Not this one. An equal or even greater impact on women in the services industry. I expect that by September there will be a substantial downward pressure on massage rates. There will be less insurance dollars too. Huge unemployment. Expect spa rates to drop to 65-70 range, home based to be in 55 or lower range. Extras, YMMV.

By next year, The politicians will be running around like headless chickens all proclaiming how they really didn't support total lockdown but were forced into it. Absolutely, we got to save lives, but we got reckless in how we did it. We destroyed Cdn families, while pretending to save lives. Shameful.


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Agree with everything you say here ! As well, I believe their will be more layoffs in the coming future. The private sector has taken a pounding in these early days of the Pandemic. The public sector is in for a massive shake-up in the coming months. Unemployment rates (taken with a grain of salt here) will have much higher numbers. Until there is re-assurance to the general populace that there is a vaccine and is "Safe" or we have come up with treatments that will assist you in a quicker recovery, it is going to be awhile.

In the meantime, I will follow protocol's and hope the second wave won't be too bad. There will be a second wave and the possible severity of that worries me. So, I will just dream of the time spent laying on Laura's table letting her do her magic!

 

[m694ever]

I would expect pricing to remain the same, and as demand dwindles, so would the number of establishments. A weeding out process will happen for the studios just like any other business. Those treading water before will disappear. I would also expect visit numbers to go down substantially as well.

 

[Deleted member 72001]

Similar to the sea-saw effect. As things open up, and we find out who survived, the prices may stay the same. As Demand drops due to lack of funds, prices may drop. If that happens, I think some business may fall, and if that happens, Prices may rise again to the norm prior to the zombie apocalypse due to supply and demand. Then you may see new shops opening up again
I think Edmonton could afford the $80/hr before, and will again. It may take some time for the marry-go-round to stop, but I think there will be a balance again.
I really do think that if the prices drop, so does the quality. I’ll tell ya, if I got paid less, I sure wouldn’t work harder.

 

[Albert Johnson]

By next year, The politicians will be running around like headless chickens all proclaiming how they really didn't support total lockdown but were forced into it. Absolutely, we got to save lives, but we got reckless in how we did it. We destroyed Cdn families, while pretending to save lives. Shameful.

And small businesses .. check Purple Perk cafe.. are not allowed to make a mistake.. the frigging doctor is another self aggrandizing "front line worker" .. really? Doing what? And the Facebook children are so full of it living in their parents' basements. Not a surprise, China will win. Against nations of Wussies.

I know people want to get back to work. but this is something no one has any experience with. Until health departments can get a full handle on this no one should feel safe. It won't be perfect, and personally I expect the numbers will go up substantially and quickly after restrictions are lifted resulting in another deeper shut down. You may want to go to work now, but I'm betting many of the people you want to attend a meeting with may be reserved about meeting you in person. Accept it, people are afraid and rightly so. Like the Spanish Flu, this is not going away. Expect waves. Not a wave, but waves. I lost my job with another 100 workers on the same day. Friday the first eight were called back. Despite social distancing and wearing masks with sanitizer most weren't comfortable and several others declined the return to work. An interesting article here about the Spanish Flu.

Coronavirus: How they tried to curb Spanish flu pandemic in 1918

Face masks, fresh air and porridge - how people tried to curb a deadly flu pandemic in 1918.

www.bbc.com

I know your frustrated about businesses not opening up, but I read back some of your recent posts where you said you were not visiting MPs because of your own concerns about the possibility of possibly having the virus spread. You seem to be leading from the rear. Your way of expressing frustration and criticism of politicians and the health system says you should be the first in line for an up and personal massage and then kissing your parents, children and immediate family to prove no one has anything to fear.

The other side of the story about the Purple Perk Cafe shows that the owner showed his frustration and ignorantly decided to ignore the laws and received exactly what he deserved.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calg...coffee-shop-covid-hitler-meme-patio-1.5539012

I have much respect for your posts, but everyone has a right to their opinion on how to deal with the virus and likely most have valid points.

 

[Albertaman]

Much to the contrary, I abide by rules, but will also be the first one to not only book a massage (with legit re-opening), and book both cross border US travel, and overseas travel, when permitted. But first things first... a haircut.


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