I've being doing this for almost 2 years (I would consider my self fresh somewhat) , entering my end game, but the temptation
(plan on stopping as I would rather have a relationship and I can't do both)
never been interested in these forums, but some of the girls mention them and 1 workmate who directed me into rub and tugs,
so I joined the forum cause of some interesting things some members would write (its not all weirdos and creeps)
helps me to form more rounded idea of such things