Question V&V SPA questions and reviews

[RougeRascal]

Some of you know that I live in Niagara and rarely venture beyond Burlington for sessions, though every now and again I need to travel to T.O. or beyond for different reasons, which was the case on Monday, June 24.

I reached out to V&V by text, stated what I was looking for (90 minute session with an attendant known for her strong massage skills, including back walking). I received a reply recommending Anita, and I showed up on time around 1:30.

The good: the same as others have mentioned — new and very clean facility, ample parking in the complex, etc.

The not-so-good: Anita did not provide anywhere close to a 90 minute session — in fact, after 40 minutes in the room, with multiple interruptions which easily knocked off 10 minutes, she wanted me to flip to begin the finish. The massage itself was below average and had no structure — neck, lower legs, right shoulder, left temple — random and without any sense of continuity.

The finish was adequate but she did not take direction very well. Without getting into highly specific details, we know that some of us like this, some of us like that, and the key is to clearly tell the girl what works and what does not. Anita ignored me, even when I said “No, I don’t like that” when she pursued penetrative prostrate play. Frustrating. Even the cleanup was substandard and rushed — tissue can stick to a man’s rod, and I was left with a Cottonelle-coated member and shown the door.

I would probably rate the session much higher if I had booked a 30 or even 45 minute session, but I need to reiterate that I paid for 90 minutes and tipped very generously. I do not believe that I got my money’s worth in terms of the door fee or the tip.

Having said this, I will book again at V&V when I’m back in the area. Sometimes, second time is the charm.

OMG, buddy. I think I finally understand why some guys had to wait in their cars that day—it's because you selfishly hogged 90 mins all to yourself. If they knew the truth, maybe many would be flipping you the bird. You should be thanking the girls for agreeing to give a first-time customer 90 mins during a busy period, instead of grumbling here, buddy.

In my experience, very few first-time customers go straight for a 90-min session; most start with a tentative 30 or 45 mins. Typically, once they are familiar with a girl and appreciate her massage or service, they might consider longer sessions. I might need to check your history to see if you've been continuously praising other nearby spas while unreasonably criticizing a particular new one. It's easy to guess who might be pulling your strings in this scenario.

Perhaps, it's time for some self-reflection on your actions. Buddy!!!

 

[Sundayhacker]

Alright, long time lurker first time poster. I made an account to ask so hoping not to get a shill answer

I went to v&v last week and had 45m with cici. Excellent massage, best BS I’ve had, but her tits were advertised to me as 32D but they’re definitely no bigger than a C.

Tomorrow I have an appointment with the famous Tina. Can someone please provide an accurate description on boob size? The text line said they are D but I am skeptical. Any other info on Tina? Tried to look up reviews of her at SL but those say she has a B cup. I am confused, and tired of paying for what I don’t want….

 

[burldude12]

OMG, buddy. I think I finally understand why some guys had to wait in their cars that day—it's because you selfishly hogged 90 mins all to yourself. If they knew the truth, maybe many would be flipping you the bird. You should be thanking the girls for agreeing to give a first-time customer 90 mins during a busy period, instead of grumbling here, buddy.

In my experience, very few first-time customers go straight for a 90-min session; most start with a tentative 30 or 45 mins. Typically, once they are familiar with a girl and appreciate her massage or service, they might consider longer sessions. I might need to check your history to see if you've been continuously praising other nearby spas while unreasonably criticizing a particular new one. It's easy to guess who might be pulling your strings in this scenario.

Perhaps, it's time for some self-reflection on your actions. Buddy!!!

Dude, chill out. You only been a member for 4 months so your experience is very limited.

Niagara man is well known member and has been doing this long before you hit puberty.

He does enjoy long sessions... up to the SPA or the attendant to decline.

 

[burldude12]

Alright, long time lurker first time poster. I made an account to ask so hoping not to get a shill answer

I went to v&v last week and had 45m with cici. Excellent massage, best BS I’ve had, but her tits were advertised to me as 32D but they’re definitely no bigger than a C.

Tomorrow I have an appointment with the famous Tina. Can someone please provide an accurate description on boob size? The text line said they are D but I am skeptical. Any other info on Tina? Tried to look up reviews of her at SL but those say she has a B cup. I am confused, and tired of paying for what I don’t want….

Maybe someone will correct me... I have not seeing either but for Asian measurement, they tend to list bigger that what we are used to in Canada.

 

[Sundayhacker]

Good thought, but they specifically said 32D, not 65D (in other words used North American cup convention)

So anyone have a first hand experience with Tina’s tits?

Before someone else posts that busty pic of CiCi, either that ain’t her or that bust has alotta help. I have a nice set of D’s at home to compare to.

 

[burldude12]

I have a nice set of D’s at home to compare to.

See, you only mention D's... same with Asians.

And if you have a nice set of D's at home, why are you here? Looking for A's?

 

[Sundayhacker]

Really man? Why are you getting confrontational? Sat around reading your bullshit and now you’re being a dick for no reason.

Did I say something to upset you? I’m just looking for clarity on tit size ffs

And is it that surprising that not everyone who visits MPAs is single like you?

Try and play nice for once

 

[Sundayhacker]

Oh I see you’re the shill posting fake reviews and exaggerated cup sizes ?

 

[Ambler]

Alright, long time lurker first time poster. I made an account to ask so hoping not to get a shill answer

I went to v&v last week and had 45m with cici. Excellent massage, best BS I’ve had, but her tits were advertised to me as 32D but they’re definitely no bigger than a C.

Tomorrow I have an appointment with the famous Tina. Can someone please provide an accurate description on boob size? The text line said they are D but I am skeptical. Any other info on Tina? Tried to look up reviews of her at SL but those say she has a B cup. I am confused, and tired of paying for what I don’t want….

Tina just back from vacation and had a boob job. There is a picture of her if you take the time to scroll through the shangri la thread a couple of weeks back, rear side angle in a dress with side cutouts, the girl looks amply endowed. But if you are concerned, take a look on that thread. Best of luck!

 

[burldude12]

Oh I see you’re the shill posting fake reviews and exaggerated cup sizes ?

Good bye

 

[Niagara_Man]

Dude, chill out. You only been a member for 4 months so your experience is very limited.

Niagara man is well known member and has been doing this long before you hit puberty.

He does enjoy long sessions... up to the SPA or the attendant to decline.

Thanks, burldude12. Appreciated.

 

[Sundance69]

Gents, please, just stick to the facts, members here are trying to learn about V&V.
Fact is the girls are from the east, and I believe they will do very well here in Halton.
Renee is well know, I've never seen her, but if reviews are even close, I should have driven out to see her a long time ago.

I'm sure some growing pains, also sure the east end girls need to appreciate it's a different clientele here in Halton.
The existing spas have done a very good job servicing, within the semi legit limits (noting a few exceptions).
Fact remains, if you don't get value it's good to be reported here, so thanks for that.

The goal is to learn about the spa, the girls and the service levels.
These days, like it or not $60 for 60 is the standard, I'm don't want to pay more as in most cases I tip $100, meaning the girls get $130 for an hour of service (and that is mostly CASH).
I think that's a good wage, I'd like to know more about the girls and the experiences of members, so please share.

So, please positive and negative comments always welcome.
And yes there are some members here who have been around the block, often, so they they know the value packs.
Seems V&V has got a very good upside, but at present, seems the girls are distracted from doing their work, trying to book the next visit, which NEVER works.

Bird in the hand (yes pun intended).
Basics are the same, service the customer at hand, don't be answering calls and texts while in the room, be attentive to the customers. Leaving the room and taking calls a definite NO. Take the booking be on time, provide the full time service.
Simple really .... I've not yet been to V&V, so far sounds promising ... knowing that this is mostly the SL crew, no doubt will be a success and likely a leader in the area.

Hope this helps!

 

[eyeswideshut]

Gents, please, just stick to the facts, members here are trying to learn about V&V.
Fact is the girls are from the east, and I believe they will do very well here in Halton.
Renee is well know, I've never seen her, but if reviews are even close, I should have driven out to see her a long time ago.

I'm sure some growing pains, also sure the east end girls need to appreciate it's a different clientele here in Halton.
The existing spas have done a very good job servicing, within the semi legit limits (noting a few exceptions).
Fact remains, if you don't get value it's good to be reported here, so thanks for that.

The goal is to learn about the spa, the girls and the service levels.
These days, like it or not $60 for 60 is the standard, I'm don't want to pay more as in most cases I tip $100, meaning the girls get $130 for an hour of service (and that is mostly CASH).
I think that's a good wage, I'd like to know more about the girls and the experiences of members, so please share.

So, please positive and negative comments always welcome.
And yes there are some members here who have been around the block, often, so they they know the value packs.
Seems V&V has got a very good upside, but at present, seems the girls are distracted from doing their work, trying to book the next visit, which NEVER works.

Bird in the hand (yes pun intended).
Basics are the same, service the customer at hand, don't be answering calls and texts while in the room, be attentive to the customers. Learning the room and taking calls a definite no. Take the booking be on time, provide the full time service.
Simple really .... I've not yet been to V&V, so far sounds promising ... knowing that this is mostly the SL crew, no doubt will be a success and likely a leader in the area.

Hope this helps!

If you're going to start shilling for this place then it's definitely not worth visiting

 

[RougeRascal]

Dude, chill out. You only been a member for 4 months so your experience is very limited.

Niagara man is well known member and has been doing this long before you hit puberty.

He does enjoy long sessions... up to the SPA or the attendant to decline.

Dude, chill out. You only been a member for 4 months so your experience is very limited.

Niagara man is well known member and has been doing this long before you hit puberty.

He does enjoy long sessions... up to the SPA or the attendant to decline.

I think you're right. Nobody at the spa likes Niagara_Man, not the girls, not the other customers. He's the only one enjoying himself, and I feel ashamed of his such behavior.

It seems like someone like him shouldn't exist in a free and equal country like Canada.

 

[RougeRascal]

Alright, long time lurker first time poster. I made an account to ask so hoping not to get a shill answer

I went to v&v last week and had 45m with cici. Excellent massage, best BS I’ve had, but her tits were advertised to me as 32D but they’re definitely no bigger than a C.

Tomorrow I have an appointment with the famous Tina. Can someone please provide an accurate description on boob size? The text line said they are D but I am skeptical. Any other info on Tina? Tried to look up reviews of her at SL but those say she has a B cup. I am confused, and tired of paying for what I don’t want….

32D = 34C = 36B

I believe Cici's cup should be 34D or 36C.

 

[BasedD]

If you're going to start shilling for this place then it's definitely not worth visiting

Why would he make a difference? Do you not already see the amount of glazers they have?

Either way I wouldn't worry, his masters at soon to-be-out-of-business z/v one dont want him accelerating their closure by pumping more hot air into this place.

 

[Sundance69]

If you're going to start shilling for this place then it's definitely not worth visiting

Sorry, which part did you miss? I've not yet visited or Renee is an industry star? or V&V is going has good upside?
We are here to learn and share, "shilling" .... OMG.

 

[Sundance69]

Why would he make a difference? Do you not already see the amount of glazers they have?

Either way I wouldn't worry, his masters at soon to-be-out-of-business z/v one dont want him accelerating their closure by pumping more hot air into this place.

BasedD, for once I do agree with you .... impact to all the spas locally, New Brilliance, Z&V, Golden Wellness, may even impact Mei's and Retreat out in Burlington.

One question to you, how is it that Retreat continues to fly under the radar here on MP? So little commentary here about

 

[KChan]

They made a huge investment and took on a good bit of risk, so they have the hammer down and the door spinning to recoup as much as possible as fast as possible.

Understandable and smart.

How it unfolds in the future will tell us if this opening is a smart business move or a lucky hit.

As it stands, they built a luxurious standout and they are runnin it like an Etobicoke fuck-shop, maybe not in service but definitely in pace/variance of quality.

Understandable and smart to keep the door spinning?

Depends on your objective : recoup money as quickly as possible with no concern for long term repeat clientele? Then yes, it's all about volume.

Or have a longer term goal of having satisfied, repeat clientele and the spa begins to prosper due to the reputation of providing value for money, good service and treating their clients fairly? Then you provide the session the client paid for : 90 mins.

All depends on the objective.

 

[BasedD]

Understandable and smart to keep the door spinning?

Depends on your objective : recoup money as quickly as possible with no concern for long term repeat clientele? Then yes, it's all about volume.

Or have a longer term goal of having satisfied, repeat clientele and the spa begins to prosper due to the reputation of providing value for money, good service and treating their clients fairly? Then you provide the session the client paid for : 90 mins.

All depends on the objective.

I agree with this for sure- I think recoup investment is clever because repeat clientelle have kept really mid/below avg spas in this area floating for years.

So you can kind of gamble on the hammer down approach... knowing you have the backstop of a low bar in general in the area.