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TMJ - ear - fascia connection

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I had a client present the other day that posed an interesting situation/find.
She booked for low back discomfort and mentioned she has persistant TMJ discomfort on the left side an slight clicking on the right. She discovered when her 2yr old pulled on her left ear that she heard a pop and had momentary relief. She then demonstrated, and I could feel the "pop" and she said as long as she held it out the TMJ pain was gone, but slowly returned after release. There is no similar pop on right side.
I'm curious if anyone has experienced a similar situation, or can shead some light on what may be occuring.

Darren
 
TMJ - ear - fascia connection

Darren,

Little space separates the ear canal and back of the TM joint. Ear pulls are a typical part of my treatment for TMJ disorders. Give it a try!
 
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Thanks Walt,

I certainly will. I'm curious if the TMJ inflamation over time creates facia changes, or adhesions to the ear structures. I haven't been able to find much in the way of ear/TMJ inter-relationships, and most of my TMJ work has been using acupoints, and Tui Na techniques.

Darren
 
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You may want to check out some of Upledger's Craniosacral literature. To me, it may be a chicken or egg relationship. Did the TMJ get inflamed first and spread to the ear, or did underlying tightness/cranial asymmetry lead to an imbalance at the TMJ. OR, to create a chick/egg/omlette relationship, did an asymmetrical pelvis cause the other two?
 
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WaltFritz said:
Darren,

Little space separates the ear canal and back of the TM joint. Ear pulls are a typical part of my treatment for TMJ disorders. Give it a try!

You might also try working the temporalis, SCM attachments, anterior and posterior auriculars, and submandibular/suprahyoid muscles. I've seen some great results from GENTLY working the smaller muscles under/around the mandible.
 
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Thanks Jason,

I see this client next week, and will certainly GENTLY dig in :) and see where it goes.

Darren
 
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I do quite a bit of TMJ work in my practice with good effective protcols. Regarding ears: One thing I do on most all of my TMJ clients is to work arond the entire ear. A few clients will also need work in the inside of the ear at the anterior region. I wear a finger cot for this work.

I will spend one hour for the TMJ/head and neck on a TMJ case, with about 30 mins. just for the TMJ joints and the rest of the time scattered in the other areas. As Jason said... the small muscles can usually benefit and I would like to add in that this work can be done very slowly and in very very small incriments to get some great benefit.

Of course, that is just how I work. Someone else may be able to use larger sweeping techniques. But, for me, I find small, specific and slow work to be the best fit for my practice.




09/10/10: edited for a typo
 
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I'm with you, Pueppi. Slow and thorough. I've found positional release techniques very helpful for the pterygoids and submandibular muscles, too. An added bonus is that I don't have to glove up for intraoral work. It blends right in to the rest of the session's flow.
 
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Do you know a book or video that shows some of that positional release work for the pterygoids? I'd like to look into that. It sounds like a wonderful fit for what I do. I do some pterygoid work with "Nimmo", but would like to look closer at what you are doing.

If no book/vid... then who you might know that offers classes? I know you have something going on in your neck of the woods. Do you have a link to anyone who provides seminars in the Texas or California regions?

Thanks!!! :)
 
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pueppi said:
Do you know a book or video that shows some of that positional release work for the pterygoids? I'd like to look into that. It sounds like a wonderful fit for what I do. I do some pterygoid work with "Nimmo", but would like to look closer at what you are doing.

If no book/vid... then who you might know that offers classes? I know you have something going on in your neck of the woods. Do you have a link to anyone who provides seminars in the Texas or California regions?

Thanks!!! :)

The best-known form of positional release is Strain Counter-Strain as developed by Lawrence Jones, DO. The Jones Institute has classes and literature worth checking out. Here's their web site: http://www.jiscs.com/Article.aspx?a=0 You can download the pre-course required reading (free!) on their home page; it's a great overview of positional release that you should be familiar with before attending one of their classes.

The SCS book by Jones is available via a number of sites. It's a good read, but some of it is clearly outdated now. Here it is on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Jones-Strain-CounterStrain-Lawrence-H/dp/0964513544

A newer book on Positional Release (SCS-style) that was strongly recommended to me is this one by D'Ambrogio and Roth. I like it a lot and it provides a more systematic approach to applying SCS in practice. Here it is on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Positional-Release-Therapy-Musculoskeletal-Dysfunction/dp/0815100965

As expected, Leon Chaitow, DO has written a book on Positional Release. It's not great for practical applications, but it provides a much more comprehensive overview of positional release methods, similarities and differences, and hypotheses about how each works. It includes a DVD supplement, but it's not really a how-to like many other videos on other topics. There are now several online Positional Release distance learning courses based on this text, usually worth 20 CE hours. Here it is on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Positional-Release-Techniques-DVD-ROM-Chaitow/dp/0443101159/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1284259509&sr=1-2 The AMTAmassage.org site has one of the distance learning courses available.

Leon Chaitow has also written a good long article on positional release here: http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.aspx?Id=581

I found this DVD by Diana Haynes, but I have not seen it and can't say anything about it. Here it is: http://www.amazon.com/Positional-Release-Massage-Diana-Haynes/dp/B000NJXBIG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1284259975&sr=8-1

There is a one-day course on "Neuromuscular Re-Education" available through Cross Country Education. It was an overview of Muscle Energy Technique and Positional Release taught by a PT. It was a good basic course heavy on practical application. We didn't do jaw work, but it was very helpful for clarifying the basic concepts and providing some very practical hands-on client assessment and treatment methods that I have used many many times since.

Hope that helps! :D
 
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JasonE, thanks for taking so much time to write such a well thought out post. It is really too bad that I am only most familiar with PNF stretching (proprioceptive muscular facilitation). I'd like to do some active study regarding the PR in the future.

As a side note, if someone has a few thoughts off the top of their head regarding any similarities or differences between PNF & Positional Release, that may be helpful. I apologize that I don't personally have the time to dedicate to some nice research in this area, right now. However, I'll attach this to my list of things to do, and get back to it in the future, when I can. :)
 
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pueppi said:
JasonE, thanks for taking so much time to write such a well thought out post. It is really too bad that I am only most familiar with PNF stretching (proprioceptive muscular facilitation). I'd like to do some active study regarding the PR in the future.

As a side note, if someone has a few thoughts off the top of their head regarding any similarities or differences between PNF & Positional Release, that may be helpful. I apologize that I don't personally have the time to dedicate to some nice research in this area, right now. However, I'll attach this to my list of things to do, and get back to it in the future, when I can. :)

In a nutshell, they are completely different. :smt002

In PNF (aka Muscle Energy Technique, depending on who you ask) the client is active. They contract and relax tissues as directed by the practitioner, with post-isometric relaxation being the traditional explanation for why tissues lengthen. However, PNF/MET can also be used to improve tissue innervation, improving strength and function, so it's not "just stretching" depending on how you use it. (Chaitow's book on Muscle Energy Technique and Kit Laughlin's books/videos on PNF are excellent.)

In general, PRT doesn't require the client to do anything during the treatment. The practitioner locates tender points based on palpation and client feedback, then positions them so that the tenderness completely disappears, even when palpated. The position is maintained for a period of time, then the client is returned to a starting position. The tenderness should remain mostly/completely gone. There are many approaches to PRT, including Strain Counterstrain, Orthobionomy, Functional Positional Release, etc. Kinesiotaping and Bowen technique are considered by some to be forms of PRT. (Chaitow's book is probably the best overview.)
 
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  30. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’— โ„๐”ธโ„™โ„™๐• ๐•„๐”ธ๐• ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ MAY 7th , TUESDAY ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 707-6866 ๐Ÿ•™๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸOpen 10:30-10:00๐Ÿ—บ#33-160 East Beaver Creek ๐Ÿ—บ 7 Rms ๐Ÿ›๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸTable Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸAttendants: We have 6๏ธโƒฃ today ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• DAISY ๐ŸŒนSOPHIE ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• RICA ๐ŸŒน ๐Ÿ†• HANNAH ๐ŸŒน LILIAN ๐ŸŒน LUCY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ NEWSFLASH ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐Ÿ†• RICA & ๐Ÿ†• HANNAH & LILIAN & ๐Ÿ†• DAISY & SOPHIE โ€˜ s BACK ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ TODAY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€
  31. Foxmulder:
    Mississauga
  32. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž10am-2am๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡Coming in tomorrow NEW First Day Young Slim Sexy Vietnamese Lisa (PIC in Forum).
  33. hiyamickey:
    6 young sexy girls working at Reynaella wellness, address: 3555 14th Ave unit #7 Markham, โ˜Ž๏ธ905-470-8082
  34. Sparkling Spa:
    SPARKLING SPA'S KOREAN SUMMER IS READY TO HEAT UP YOUR DAY โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  35. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel.
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Lily๐Ÿ˜˜ - A petite tiny little Korean treat,
  37. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at SUNRISE SPA: EMILY, MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-325-8086 โ˜Ž๏ธ EMILY is a beautiful Asian lady, 36C-29-29, 5โ€™4โ€ & 110Lbs, with a sensual touch. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is a sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39
  38. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at NEW ORIENTAL SPA: HAPPY, HANNA & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-381-2688 โ˜Ž๏ธ HANNA is a young, tall & slim Vietnamese honey with great skills & attitude. HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5โ€™6โ€ & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy.
  39. GoldenFlower:
    ๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒป๐™‚๐™Š๐™‡๐˜ฟ๐™€๐™‰ ๐™๐™‡๐™Š๐™’๐™€๐™ ๐™Ž๐™‹๐˜ผ๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’› 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿณ MONDAY at๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒปGOLDEN FLOWER SPA๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’›, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777Jojo, Linda, & Sherry. Jojo is a beautiful young fair skinned Hong Kong girl who can melt all your cares away. Linda is a pretty Vietnamese cutie with nice melons
  40. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4
  41. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Spanish girl (Mia big boobs &ass thin waist) and new Asian girl Lucy in today
  42. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer๐Ÿ˜˜- A busty curvy new girl from Taiwan with excellent massage skills and a fun bubbly personality. Nice thick bum to worship and play with. A fun wild girl willing to provide an exciting happy finish anyway you like ๐Ÿ˜˜Real picture
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAMY, CINDY & VIVIAN AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  44. Lulu1980:
    Hi guys ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿคช๐ŸคชPhoenix blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนMia sexy body big boobs ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜very good body slide ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนand Cici very good table shower๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ ๏ผŒHelen Deep Tissue Massage๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Bella & NEW GIRLMiu Miu. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  46. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Zoe ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  47. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  48. Dreaminn:
    MONDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: AMY, KELLY & MIMI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ AMY is a sweet and friendly Chinese vixen, 158Cms, 115Lbs, with C Cups and very willing to please. KELLY is a young & pretty Asian girl, very slim, 5โ€™3โ€ with very liberal services. MIMI is a cute young Asian lady
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Vivian and young fun open mind Tina with curve body, sexy Coco and pretty cute GFE Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ NEW GIRL HELEN: A TALL AND SLENDER YOUNG VIETNAMESE GIRL WITH A VERY LUSCIOUS BODY, VERY SWEET AND FRIENDLY YOU WILL BE SURE TO FALL IN LOVE ๐ŸŒธ JENNY: A TALL AND SLIM KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN ๐ŸŒธ ELLA: A PETITE YOUNG CHINESE GIRL THAT IS A POPULAR FAVOURITE ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
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