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The lure of LBs...

Fcuk me Diz,you're a big lad are'nt you.
 

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Well said mikegb.

As I have said before if I was to go with a LB, I "personally" would feel gay, Though I would never label anyone else with a eforum.xxx, Its just the way I feel about it but each to there own.

Why is it though that if someone makes a comment about how they feel on the matter, That in turn they are told that they are not comfortable with there own sexuality? Is it not the other way around.

Because why else would you get so angry about it if you were comfortable with your sexuality?

If you were, You would not get so worked up, What someone else thinks, Right? Thats my view on it anyway.
 
Previously would have dismissed the entire idea completely. I think the trannys here are fugly.

However when I was in Thailand, my thoughts changed a bit. I'm definitely too timid to try anything. But I have to admit, they sure are pretty. I am wondering how many more trips it will take before I lose my "shyness"? :eek:mg:
 
I have looked through every link you put up and read them and still I see nowhere that states a 4/10 ratio of BGs infected??? It only says that 1.3/2.0 of 15/24yr olds have the disease which is not even close to to 4/10!!! Its complete bullshit.

I have no experiece of LBs personally so I dont know whether they take more risks but how on earth do you know they are willing to take more risks??? Have you been with one or have you talked to them all???

As I have already said you have a much higher risk of catching something from having homosexual sex as compared to hetrosexual, FACT!!!!

Everybody knows what the risks are but when you go quoting statistics like that which have no foundation, People will start to think your scare mongering, So until you have hard evidence then please do not post stuff like that because people will not take you seriously, And on a subject like this thats a bad thing.

All the posts you have written and I have read, And I think you are jealous of the BGs because they are getting all the attention from the guys, And you cant understand why even though there is a risk of catching something? Which IMHO bugs the shit out of you, So now you trying to scare the guys away from the BGs with the false stats you are putting up. Well at least thats who you are coming across to me and I bet a few other people too ;)
 
heh heh heh - that's why Wet Willy's pool needing refilling after I jumped in !! 55555
 

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Go read my post on the Subtype E thread. I do not want to monoplise every thread with this topic out of respect for others who do not wish to hear about it. I will state though that you are wrong and need to look at stats, hiv in thailand is a heterosexual disease primarily, then IV drug use, then homosexual. My comments on lb's risk taking is from data on transgendered individuals and sexual risk assessment, it is cross-cultural though the data was heavily collected in US.

Your incessant accusation that I am reacting out of jealousy is far from true. I addressed the jealousy accusation in another thread. I do not see why or how I would be jealous of a bg? For one thing the men they are with are not typically men I would be going after anyway, for another thing I would never want to be in their position and am very happy with my own life thank you! I also do not lack attention be it from western men or local men, it is not the issue. My HIV concern was initially brought up because of MY OWN experience with Thai man and knowing how it is to be scared shit and trying to let people know to be safe, that is all. Stop all your b.s accusations. You are perfectly welcome to take any risks you want and to believe that every western woman feels jealous and inferior to bar girls, but the latter just is not true, perhaps wishful thinking on your part!
 
Sorry but that cofirmed nothing to me, Its only a theory! Absoulutely not fact.

And there not accusations, Its my opinion!

Ehh and where did I say that i think every western women feels jealous and inferior to bgs??? I said IMHO you were!!! I love western women just as much as asian girls by the way :love2:
 
But is that not because they dress up as women, And some of them do a very good job of it :ytounge: Is that not what you are attracted too?

The way I see it is, There's only enough room for one set of balls in my bed ;) :D
 
good on ya mate,
nothing ventured nothing gained
 

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WOW !!!
looks great !!! :thumbsup:
do u have any other pics ? :D
:cheers:
 

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Isn't that the point? Some do look like very pretty ladies. And they take it in the dumper. Sounds like a great woman to me? (minus the ****-and-balls)
 
Well luckily your honest opinion is not fact. I do not even understand where you would extrapolate that from as I am looking for something completely different from what bg's are looking for.
 
Im with u Magnus, have visited BKK a few times and am becoming quite inetested in LBs. Think Im at the seforum.xxxe of building up the courage to ' have a go', we will see what happens
 
I just want to put a little perspective on it: Ladyboys lure is their complete uniqueness. In the west we get big dodgy trannies, here in Thailand you can get petite women who just happen to have been unfortunate to have been born with the wrong bits. There is a wide range from the legitimate ladyboys that are truly a second type women that try to merely get by in mainstream society, to transvestites who camp it up and exploate the commercial aspect of the ladyboy mystique. For all the commentaries on how open Thailand is, it seems a national sport to spot the ladyboys and announce that you do so. I find that degrading and insulting to the integrity of some of these girls. Of course there are those who completely want to be known, but I reckon the real ones do not want to be noticed and this whole "spot the tranny" attitude of farangs and thais alike is a demeaning attitude that makes light of some other human beings personal tragedy and turns a person into a spectacle for your amusement.

As for those who like and those who do not like the lb scene, I will just also say, there is a saying about those in glass houses casting the first stone, and I think if you are on the p4p scene you really are in no position to judge someone elses taste, we all have preferences and it should be left at that. This up the pooper, and sets of balls attitude really is uncalled for, we know you do not like it, that suffices!
 
Diz,

I know you have ventured to the darkside once (as I have) but I would not take Dawsey's choice of words as an offer :D

Gez
 

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I have never ventured on the Lightside whilst in LOS. I can get that back home so only partake in the Darkside. For those who have not, don't knock it until you tried it.

I might have to crossover myself one of these days :biggrinlo
 

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No!! The point is "Look Like Ladies" but my desire for them goes as soon as I realise that they are LBs, Which is normally very quickly, Anyway you can always find a real lady who will take it up the dumper, As long as you ask nicely or just have the baby oil beside the bed and be quick and suprise them :eek:mg: ;) :D
 
I think you are confused? I was certainly not angry only dissapointed at the narrow minded view somew people have about others. Surely someone who is happy to sleep with as you put it a man dressed as a woman is more than comfortable with his sexuality.

Having said that I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else on this forum just wanted to voice the opinion of someone who may have an alternative view.

I mean at the end of th day we could all be critical of each other and our perversions but if you are not hurting anyone and it feels right then why not keep doing it?
 
I don't get it? Why the big debate if it makes you happy.....blah blah

Judging from the amount of views on the LB's you gotta know that there's a LOT of curious people out there, to bad they wouldn't drop their narrow minded views of what's the supposed NORM. I've tried some and thought they were great! Not only that if you're walking home or whatever LB's don't take any crap so you get a body guard as well hahaha!
 

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Well right the guy who said LB are boys with boobs is in one point right, it might be a good description for an Encyclopedia :ytounge:

But in reality they are much more, try it and judge it. im sure its not everybodys game, but if i look back on my own experiences it was worth a try for sure.
 

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    (((เค†เคชเค•เฅ‹ เคฌเคฟเคจเคพ เคจเคพเคŸเค• เคฏเคพ เคจเค–เคฐเฅ‡ เค•เคฐเคจเฅ‡ เคตเคพเคฒเคพ เคธเคฐเฅเคตเคฟเคธ เคšเคพเคนเฅ‡ เคคเฅ‹เคน เคฏเคพเคฆ เค•เคฐเคจเคพ. ))) :oops: If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it.:oops: Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do n
  27. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am,Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Slim Sexy Thai Girl Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki,Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  28. hiyamickey:
    Reynaella wellness @ 3555 14th Ave unit #7 Markham, we have 5 girls working today โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-470-8082
  29. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-06Today we have 5 girls on Saturday๏ผš Jennifer - CBC girl with large breasts and a nice booty to compliment her fun services Vicky - cute spinner with a slim frame and services Sandy -... ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹new girl Linda๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  30. Flowers Spa:
    โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6, Thornhill Vaughan ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ท ALIZABETH (New) 19Yrs Turkish big booty, friendly and energetic...Full Menu... ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MISA (New) 19 years old Vietnamese beautiful pretty face, long black hair...Must See ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ MY LINH LINDA a 21Yrs Vietnamese Malaysian, offers comfortable and professional full-body treatments....โœฐ BLUEXADO SPA โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6, Thornhill Vaughan โœฐ
  31. Pink Flower Spa:
    โœฐ 416.299.5515 โœฐ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ Mandy | Mady Indian | Filipino 19Yrs ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ELLY | KELLY (age 21) is from Vietnam Chinese ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ Nancy (New) from Singapore is pretty & slim with nice booty ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Hanna from Vietnam, young and good energetic โœฐ PINK FLOWER SPA โœฐ 416.299.5515 โœฐ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough โœฐ
  32. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan just a
  33. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am,Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Slim Sexy Thai Girl Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki,Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  34. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Wendy ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  35. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lucky, Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  36. featherless:
    Annie spa review
  37. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: LULU, MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered.
  38. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY & HELEN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. HELEN is a young, slim & very sexy Vietnamese lady. She not only looks good, she IS good.
  39. Moon203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian girl and 2 new Asian girl today
  40. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Ivy โค๏ธ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivyโ€™s good looks
  41. Leona14th:
    SATURDAY at ๐‹๐„๐Ž๐๐€ & ๐…๐‘๐ˆ๐„๐๐ƒ๐’: * ๐—ฆ๐—ž๐—ฌ๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—ฅ is returning TODAY Saturday! Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐ โ˜Ž๏ธ (* ๐—ฆ๐—ž๐—ฌ๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—ฅ is back, by popular demand! Book early, gentlemen ๐Ÿ˜ƒ)
  42. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Sophia and young fun Yoyo open mind with Curve body, sweet GFE Lina and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  43. Lulu1980:
    Hi guys ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿคช๐ŸคชPhoenix blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนtable shower ๐Ÿšฟ shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Tiffany sexy body big boobs ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜very good body slide ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนand Angela very good table shower๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ deep massage ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366
  44. Dreaminn:
    SATURDAY[ at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: ELSA, MIMI & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ ELSA is slim, petite & very pretty student, early 20โ€™s about 5โ€™2โ€ and 105 Lbs. Elsa has an innocent look about her, but she can drive you wild with pleasure, and provides a great massage. MIMI is a cute young Asian lady with a medium build,167Cms, 110Lbs, D
  45. ASPA:
    SATUR๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny and best massage Rachel. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธMAGGIE &* TARA. Maggie is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. New Girl Tara is a young & pretty Asian girl with big melons and fun services.
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Misaki & Tracy, Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Misaki is a young and beautiful real Japanese girl with natural 34DD Cups and a great body. She is open to bbbj, dfk and cfs
  48. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜ KOREAN SUMMER AND HK GIRL FOX TO SERVE YOU TODAY
  49. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ PAYAL PEARL, SARIKA, NIMRAT, MONIKA, NINA, ASHA, SANA, MALIYA, MAY, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  50. bumika.vashi:
    VASHI NAVI MUMBAI FULL SERVICE :oops: TeleGram: @BUMIKAVASHI โ˜Ž๏ธ WhatsApp9๏ธโƒฃ9๏ธโƒฃ3๏ธโƒฃ0๏ธโƒฃ9๏ธโƒฃ1๏ธโƒฃ2๏ธโƒฃ6๏ธโƒฃ6๏ธโƒฃ9๏ธโƒฃ
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