The lure of LBs...

I guess I will have to read your posts. I took your saying that you didn't like the scene with BGs as meaning you were anti-BG. It came off as sounding that way to me. My mistake if that is not what you meant. I can understand why you wouldn't want to hang out at the ladybars! :D
 
Have to agree here; live and let live. Never crossed the divide so far but every now and again I see a LB that makes me go 'wow'.

I think they scare me a little as an 'unknown quantity' that I don't understand, but I can see the attraction. The question of sexuality raises a few hackles as well, which leads me to believe that the issue is far more complex than a straight/gay one, and many have said as much here in their replies.


I guess the upside is that every bloke chasing katoeys up and down Soi Crocodile is one less chasing cuties up and down Soi Eric, therefore leaving more for me!

:cheers:
 
A lot of people are making that assumption. It feels sometimes like I am arguing with George Dubbya, "your either with us or against us". Not the case I assure you just am looking for a good time that does not revolve around the bg scene.
 
There is to many lovely BG's for me when and if i get sick of them then i may cross over to the dark side ;)
 
Thanks eurogirl! as you see i have changed my name to StGeorge.

I am honest because in this situation I can be. When I'm away I am honest as well, but as you know, people love to gossip, and I have a reputation to uphold at home so I tend to be economical with the truth within my circles at home.

I want my freinds and family to respect me, and they are not quite so open minded. I cant blame them, thats just the way they are.
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Sorry Lene,
I missed your comment....

No difference at all re. penetration. The only difference is when you choose to 'eat sushi' (as obviously they can't get wet...)
 
As I posted in the other thread you posted at least 3 comments that on the surface of it sounded like putting bar girls down, putting thier 'fat old farang customers' down etc..

Since then you have qualified those comments but its hard to see how you would think that comments like that would not generate a response.. By stating that in gerneral guys going with girls are fat old farangs you are saying in general that we are fat old farangs (not that I give a shit) as most of us have been in the company of a BG.. As many of us are not fat and I am (for example) younger then you.. Its easy to see why comments get missinterpreted..

Also the HIV rate amoung LB's has been shown to be VERY much higher than the rate of infection amoung even working women.. Mostly (probably) because the vast majority of LB's are on the game, many of them are indulging in riskier sex, etc.. That is a fact..
 
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:cheers:
 

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This is a photo of me and the errm...young lady (??) responsible for my temporary crossover...
 

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I've shown my colours earlier in this thread but I think there does appear to be a major difference in attitudes towards LBs compared to BGs even amongst the LB proeforum.xxxonists because you don't seem to hear about relationships developing with LBs whereas this site is filled with stories of relationships with BGs.
 
I know that the rate is higher among LB's but that is due to the fact that they are willing to take more risks, perhaps a bit more desperate for example for clients etc. It is also biologically related as even with subtype E **** is still the most effective way. Nevertheless a 4 of 10 incidence among bg's is nothing to shake your leg...or any other body part for that matter...at. Have fun but be safe, my only point.
 
I'm more than cormfortable with my sexuality thank you very much. So many reports of experiences with ladyboys contain phrases such as " i'm not gay but..." or "I consider myself to be straight but.....". Are these not the people who are not comfortable with their sexuality? Are they not lying to themselves?

There are endless amounts of things in this world that people have not done. Do you have to try everything before you know if you enjoy it or not? How about your own personal judgement and foresight? Or how about basic human nature, instinct and desire? Men have sex with women.

In the vast majority of experiences with ladyboys its is purely for sex. So is the fact that its 'a woman trapped in a mans body' relevent? Yes some are stunning and according to reports great at blow jobs. Each to their own and I do not condemn anyone who is into this. My comments were in responce to the recommendation that everyone should try it at least once.
 
You keep quoteing this 4/10 figure..

You showed one link that said something about Burma and didnt state anything about data set size etc.. as I told you in anohter place an 80% figure was obtained for Thailand.. When questioned it turned out to be one single brothel in N Thailand where Thai guys dont use condoms, so in one place, with a tiny group, you get an 8/10 and 80% number.. NGO's need scare numbers for attention and money..

I have shown you the HIV stats for Phuket... about 3300 cases total last year (not new cases) with a 2.7 % rate among young women for prenatal screening..

Use a condom.. Relax..
 
I think Del Boy makes some very good points.

If somebody does NOT see the attraction to ladyboys, then there is no convincing them -neither should you try to.

I have seen enough posts about the subject over the last couple of years to realise it is something you either 'like' or 'dislike'.

I think ladyboys are more of a fascination than anything else - Having had LOTS of experiences with them, I would NEVER consider myself as a 'gay man' . If somebody else does, then thats up to them, it doesnt really bother me.

I think excitement and experimenting with something 'different' makes a big attraction.

As far as me going out and wanting to suck some blokes nob end, then its not going to happen - but give me a brown boys bum, and im there everytime :):) (as long as they have nice tits and wear a nice dress ;))
 
Just remembering when i was in Bangkok last year & checked out nana plaza, walked in to some bar and wasn't happy coz the women looked old in these bars. Then i when upstairs saw some hotties but they turned out to be Ladyboys but they were the best looking that i saw in nana plaza. I don't know if i would ever try one but Ex looks great & a mate of mine been going to Phuket for the past 5 years & swears that they give the best blow jobs. :light:
 

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OK, LivinLos, I think in many ways you are trying to wish away facts. How many of the bg's you know have gone for neo-natal testing last year? Point being that this is another demographic.

You want links I can give you links galore on statistics, but the fact is that HIV is widespread in Thailand with one of the highest per capitas in the world. It is also of a different strain and thus more infectious heterosexually.

http://www.aegis.com/news/afp/2003/AF030102.html

On this link read about Subtype E

http://www.aids.harvard.edu/news_publications/har/special_1996/special96-8.html


There are a million more links with stats but honestly it is not a contest to try to exaggerate on my part or down play on your part the hiv risk here, I simply want to let people know they are playing with a different animal and that caution is best!
 
I think that the HIV question has been more then discussed here now, use your search -bottom!

Do you really think we are ignorant? Don't you think that even with a condom we feel secure all the time? I get tested every time I get back!

That you bring this question up in one tread you are participating, fine, but please not in every one :complain:

Verdorie toch!
 
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    (((เค†เคชเค•เฅ‹ เคฌเคฟเคจเคพ เคจเคพเคŸเค• เคฏเคพ เคจเค–เคฐเฅ‡ เค•เคฐเคจเฅ‡ เคตเคพเคฒเคพ เคธเคฐเฅเคตเคฟเคธ เคšเคพเคนเฅ‡ เคคเฅ‹เคน เคฏเคพเคฆ เค•เคฐเคจเคพ. ))) :oops: If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it.:oops: Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do n
  30. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am,Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Slim Sexy Thai Girl Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki,Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  31. hiyamickey:
    Reynaella wellness @ 3555 14th Ave unit #7 Markham, we have 5 girls working today โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-470-8082
  32. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-06Today we have 5 girls on Saturday๏ผš Jennifer - CBC girl with large breasts and a nice booty to compliment her fun services Vicky - cute spinner with a slim frame and services Sandy -... ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹new girl Linda๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  33. Flowers Spa:
    โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6, Thornhill Vaughan ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ท ALIZABETH (New) 19Yrs Turkish big booty, friendly and energetic...Full Menu... ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MISA (New) 19 years old Vietnamese beautiful pretty face, long black hair...Must See ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ MY LINH LINDA a 21Yrs Vietnamese Malaysian, offers comfortable and professional full-body treatments....โœฐ BLUEXADO SPA โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6, Thornhill Vaughan โœฐ
  34. Pink Flower Spa:
    โœฐ 416.299.5515 โœฐ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ Mandy | Mady Indian | Filipino 19Yrs ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ELLY | KELLY (age 21) is from Vietnam Chinese ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ Nancy (New) from Singapore is pretty & slim with nice booty ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Hanna from Vietnam, young and good energetic โœฐ PINK FLOWER SPA โœฐ 416.299.5515 โœฐ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough โœฐ
  35. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan just a
  36. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am,Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Slim Sexy Thai Girl Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki,Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Wendy ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  38. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lucky, Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. featherless:
    Annie spa review
  40. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: LULU, MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered.
  41. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY & HELEN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. HELEN is a young, slim & very sexy Vietnamese lady. She not only looks good, she IS good.
  42. Moon203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian girl and 2 new Asian girl today
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Ivy โค๏ธ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivyโ€™s good looks
  44. Leona14th:
    SATURDAY at ๐‹๐„๐Ž๐๐€ & ๐…๐‘๐ˆ๐„๐๐ƒ๐’: * ๐—ฆ๐—ž๐—ฌ๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—ฅ is returning TODAY Saturday! Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐ โ˜Ž๏ธ (* ๐—ฆ๐—ž๐—ฌ๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—ฅ is back, by popular demand! Book early, gentlemen ๐Ÿ˜ƒ)
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Sophia and young fun Yoyo open mind with Curve body, sweet GFE Lina and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. Lulu1980:
    Hi guys ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿคช๐ŸคชPhoenix blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนtable shower ๐Ÿšฟ shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Tiffany sexy body big boobs ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜very good body slide ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนand Angela very good table shower๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ deep massage ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366
  47. Dreaminn:
    SATURDAY[ at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: ELSA, MIMI & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ ELSA is slim, petite & very pretty student, early 20โ€™s about 5โ€™2โ€ and 105 Lbs. Elsa has an innocent look about her, but she can drive you wild with pleasure, and provides a great massage. MIMI is a cute young Asian lady with a medium build,167Cms, 110Lbs, D
  48. ASPA:
    SATUR๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny and best massage Rachel. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธMAGGIE &* TARA. Maggie is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. New Girl Tara is a young & pretty Asian girl with big melons and fun services.
  50. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Misaki & Tracy, Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Misaki is a young and beautiful real Japanese girl with natural 34DD Cups and a great body. She is open to bbbj, dfk and cfs
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