Tapotement

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Hopefully the answer to my query is not an obvious one, with lack of knowledge on my part...like, "DUH!" LOL.

Some background info: One of the horses I work on suffers from a painful L-severe degenerative stifle (would be our knee joint). I've been working on him once per week since December, and then twice per week since March. I combine therapeutic massage with Reiki.

I've just started doing some more intense work on him (which he's now allowing because we've built trust and a bond). So, I'm doing very light ROM and tapotement. Well, the amazing thing is that he tolerates the tapotement far better than even light palpation. He completely drops his head in relaxation. Even as I thump over his stifle.

My wondering is this: why does he tolerate levels of tapotement easier than light to medium palpation? I know what tapotement does but am wondering if the result has something to do with the superficial nerves. As in, it's less painful because it bypasses the superficial nerves, going deeper with the vibration of tapotement (?).

Anyone experience anything similar with a client that is a lot of pain? TIA for any insights.

*Edit: for typos
 


From my days training harness horses for racing - the horses my ex and I trained were generally lame, lazy, crazy, and broken down wrecks by the time we got them. SO, as a consequence I spent a great deal of time with my hands all over the critters healing what I could in whatever manner they would allow. Most of that entailed tapping, slapping, heavy friction on legs, hocks, hips and stifles. For me, it worked and they all responded well both physically and on the track.

One of the things all of them seemed to enjoy the most was tapping. It stimulates the blood flow and does it without thoroughly "lighting up" the sensitive nerves in the areas of injury. Plus, the horses I worked on would tend to appreciate a more equine touch - they just don't do loving strokes and generally kneading to one another when they are allowed to care for one another in a herd type situation.

Hope that helps.

J
 


Thanks, AnastasiaB! I could easily repsond to your great reply in more depth but I would end up hijacking my own topic into something that needs to be posted in the animal therapies section. :lol:

The horse I'm referencing is a Standardbred rescue and has not had the best human experiences prior to his current existance. I'd love to chat with you more about your knowledge. I do understand, though, from your reply that the horses you worked with preferred more of an equine touch which includes tapping (vibration/tapotement). Many humble thank yous.

I'm actually doing tapotement on the painfully diseased joint area - which he is tolerating better than therapeutic palpatory strokes - do you think it bypasses superficial nerves?

Since I'm asking about taptement in regard to clients that are in pain (not just specific to horses or other animals), and the possible relation to superficial nerves, I'll behave and wait in hopes of more replies. :roll:
 


maybe the rhythmic resonance is some form of cell-memory, like a heartbeat in the womb kind of thing......


oooooh, i'm stretchin here now :smt102 :mrgreen:
 


Dependent on the length of time tapping is done, it can have a numbing effect on the nerves in the area, thus a decrease in pain - also an increase in circulation thus decreasing inflammation - applies for humans as well as critters.
 


mush said:
oooooh, i'm stretchin here now :smt102 :mrgreen:
:mrgreen: ...thanks!

AnastasiaB said:
Dependent on the length of time tapping is done, it can have a numbing effect on the nerves in the area...
Hey thanks, that sounds logical.

In this particular case, I'm not doing tapotement in one area for any length of time (applying and moving along at a nice & easy pace, from head to hoof)...spending the same amount of tapotement time on the stifle as I do the rest of the body. The key is that it really seems to have an instant overall relaxing effect for him (even over the injury).

In contrast, I have other horse clients that are not in-love with tapotement.

Maybe it has something to do with bodies that are in their head a lot (intelligent, over thinking and possibly worriers)...sort of interrupting that brain nerve communication function temporarily. I don't know...now I'm stretchin' here, LOL. :p
 


This is very interesting. I have somewhat similar observations about tapotement. And I have wondered about them...

I do massage on approximately 12 children a month. They are in a medically fragile children's unit of a long-term care facility of a hospital. Most of the children there, and all the children I work on, have either had traumatic brain injuries or have severe Cerebral Palsey. They have extremely limited verbal communication; virtually no words, some laugh. I have observed that they all can show pleasure/displeasure by smiling, laughing, relaxing, moaning or pulling away/grimacing/crying/seizing.

They all love tapotement. And a majority respond more positively to it than anything else.
The thing that makes tapotement different from other massage strokes is the rythm and resonance/percussive vibration. So, I don't know the why, but I have certainly made a similar observation.

Noel
 
Thanks!

Thanks, seekingequanimity. What amazing work you are doing! I'm glad to know I'm not the only who is finding the same response to tapotement in similar situations. You've inspired me to delve into this a little deeper...will continue my research further.
 


Kindred & Seeking,

Cool experiences for both of you. Seeking, my autistice client for whom I do primarily craniosacral LOVES tapping, cupping, and slapping when he's in the mood. [Adult male, 59, autistic since age 5, blind since age 8]. He takes hold of my hands and "flaps them up and down over the top of his chest until I comply with one of the above techniques. The grin and giggles I get from him are so utterly fabulous because I know it's what he wants.

Sorry if that hijacked the thread.....
 


Cool experience for you, too, AnastasiaB...thanks for sharing, that's awesome...you've just added more fuel to my tapotement fire!

No apologies necessary, I don't think you hijacked, lol. :)
 


Got me a Bonger...oooooo, creates fabulous tapotement! ...usually come in pairs, I know, but one - and only one - was gifted to me. I'm gonna have to invest in a pair now. :smt023
 


Great discussion, you guys are making me re-think tapotement.
I have slowly drifted towards mostly slow deep kneading.
Almost completely abandoning percussives, thinking that it was irritating and only for pre exercise use..

Good one :)
 


A second Thank You!

I got away from tapotement in the spa setting because one of my fellow therapists said it isn't appropriate...now I know that she wasn't necessarily on base about more than just tapotement - but that is another story.

Anyway, I am going to reintroduce it into my work...

Thanks again...the thread just keeps living on ;0)
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Ivy โค๏ธ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivyโ€™s good looks
  34. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Sophia and young sweet Yoyo with curve body open mind , pretty GFE Ella and fun Lina 36DD are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  35. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ PAYAL PEARL, MAY, NIMRAT, NINA, ANGELINA, MALIYA, SANA, MONIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  36. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Suki and Tiffany Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  37. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, LUNA, TIFFANY & WENDY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. LUNA is New today. Details to follow...
  38. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ SPA: SUMMER & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5โ€™6โ€ & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy.
  39. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  40. ASPA:
    SATUR๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny and best massage Rachel. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธMAGGIE & NANA. Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like.
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Niko & Tracy, *nicole tracy cindy Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Niko is tall, very pretty, and slim with a sexy body, natural C Cups and long nipples.
  43. Tajul Islam:
    how much Per hours rate only sex
  44. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Yoyo, Young Sexy Slim Chinese Emma, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  45. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Jessica and Mia Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available Today
  46. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have amazing girls today ๐ŸŒธ HELLEN, MONIKA, NINA, AMANDA, AAVI, ANGELINA, ANAYA, SANA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  47. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl Angel๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility with Victoria- Exotic beauty with great...
  48. KSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: HELEN, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HELEN is a pretty Chinese babe, 24, 5โ€™3โ€ & 115 Lbs, can provide good services. SUKI is 23, 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body. CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5โ€™3โ€ sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, CICI, TIFFANY & WENDY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. CICI is Chinese, 49 Kgs & 1M 57Cms, with nice D melons & an open services menu.
  50. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
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