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Taking back attunements?

tennis97girl

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Hi there,
I'm a Reiki Master and I also teach at a massage school. One of the workshops we offer to our students is Reiki 1. My first year teaching the class, I had a talented young man really excell in energy work. At the end of the class, I do level one attunements on everyone who wants one. This young man received one. The next day, he went to church and talked to his 'elder' and was told Reiki was evil because it was the work of the devil. (Apparently, the devil is into healing now.) He came back the next day and ordered me to take the attunement back! I hate to admit it, but even after much discussion with him over the matter, I did what I could to take the level one attunement back! I've never forgotten this situation. This same young man was also told reflexology was evil because it was, well, from non-Christians. I'm surprised he took massage therapy at all, because it too, was developed by non-Christians.
Has anyone else had an experience like this?
I'm very careful in my classes now to tell everyone they are free to leave after the morning lecture, if they have no interest in actively using Reiki. The last class I taught in May, half the students left. I don't know if it was spring fever (very young class near graduation) or if they all were very serious about their 'Christian' concerns.
I'm a Methodist and have been welcome to teach Reiki at my church at least once a year for free. So I'm really puzzled by this trend at my school.
 


Elder? Is the student in question Mormon? If so, doesn't surprise me.

Re half your class leaving... healthy detachment aside, I feel sad when I see people dismiss/reject energy work without giving it much chance. Especially those who have decided already, "I don't believe in that kind of stuff." Great, enjoy your reality.
 


Or Jehovah's Witness. Also not surprising. What a shame. Let it go though. Keep teaching what you do, maybe some of that will do some good for the students who are so fearful, even if at the time they leave your class.

It takes a long time and many people and experiences to tear down that kind of indoctrinated fear.
 


I think there are "elders" in many different brands of christian churches.

Do you have an evaluation sheet for people to fill out at the end of class? Do you have questions on it that would help give you more specific information about why someone would not be interested in using Reiki?
 


GrateLakes said:
Why not turn it around and tell this person they need to reject the attunement rather than having it 'taken back."

Tell them to pray to whomever they pray to to remove the attunement and it will be gone. Chances are, they will feel better results this way.

i think this is a great idea - it will allow that person to feel control over the situation.
 


I agree with people who have questioned if this person was a Jahovah Witness or Mormon. They are extremely strict in their tenents and one cannot defer from them because they they are seen as worse heretics then when the protestants broke from the catholics all those centuries ago.
 


I agree with greatlakes. I honestly have never heard of anyone being able to give back their attunement. If I have time I'll do some research into this.

You might want to look at this forum

http://www.reiki-4-all.com
 


How active is that forum........I cannot tell really by just browsing around. It looks active though and its definately going into my faves so I can browse later :) Thanks for posting it!!

holistichealer
 


You're welcome. :)

I think that it is pretty active. I only visit occasionally however.
 


The fundamental charismatic non-denominational Christian church that I attended once upon a time would have sent me to hell with gasoline britches on if I said I'd been attuned in Reiki. Conservative Catholics, as well, tend to frown upon it. Unfortunately this attitude is rampant in my neck of the woods. It breaks my heart. Reiki is awesome and it changed my life! Is it any surprise I'm having trouble calling myself a Christian these days?

Kemilyna
 


Breathe said:
Or Jehovah's Witness. Also not surprising. What a shame. Let it go though. Keep teaching what you do, maybe some of that will do some good for the students who are so fearful, even if at the time they leave your class.

It takes a long time and many people and experiences to tear down that kind of indoctrinated fear.

I have to totally agree with your statement, Breathe. I use to be a JW years ago and would never have touched Reiki at that time. Through the years, with many personal changes, and experiences, I have totally changed my views and now I am a Reiki Master too. I can't imagine not doing Reiki now!
 


EgoMagickian said:
Great, enjoy your reality.

Y'know, I deeply enjoy and appreciate your posts. You seem like a really cool being. But this is my new favorite quote ever! :D
 


Can an attunement really "take" if that attitude exists? Reiki only goes where it is welcome. Is it the elder talking or the student in that case, maybe the student has accepted it, but needs to tell the elder that it has been removed. I live in a predominantly Roman Catholic area, Reiki is just so far off their radar, I was questioned about craniosacral therapy, that it is "Not from God"!!!

The local RC priest made a very tiny comment about a healing touch instructor coming to town, and they had to cancel her workshop because of it. And it was the United Church that was facilitating it!

I think progress will be slow, but movies like "What the Bleep" will hopefully help move things along.
 


cy said:
EgoMagickian said:
Great, enjoy your reality.

Y'know, I deeply enjoy and appreciate your posts. You seem like a really cool being. But this is my new favorite quote ever! :D
heh, it is great. :)
 


It is these attitudes from "Christians" that are causing the congragations to become smaller and smaller in the churches. I have friends who are clergy and former nuns as well as friends who are Buddhists, Muslims, and Pagans.

All who follow the true teachings of their faith are very tolerant of others. Church officials who criticize others are living in a place of fear. They are the ones who need to be prayed for and who need our love. Remember, God/Christ/Buddha/Muhammed all said to love your neighbour. Love, to me doesn't mean criticize but to simply love.

Namaste'
 


Don't want to be repetitive here -- I have posted on the "Reiki Conflicts with my beliefs as a Christian" thread with two books I have discovered that might help both Christians who are interested in doing Reiki and those who are performing Reiki and not Christians -- who are fielding questions from Christian clients who have fears about it.

As mentioned in the previous thread, I cannot recommend these books until I read them! Book reports sometime next week . . . :)

Sherry
 


Hi Sherry.

I look forward to reading your reviews.

Just for the record, I have no problems with Reiki and Religion/Spirituality. I'll perform Reiki for you no matter what you believe. Being able to play music for nearly forty years I see as a gift from "That which We Call God." Reiki is no different. The fact that Reiki came via an attunement from another person simply makes that person a gift too. I got my first level from a Catholic Nun for Pete's sake!

Reiki is not a problem, nor is religion. The problem is in narrow-mindedness and intollerance.

Namaste'
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan just a
  31. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am,Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Slim Sexy Thai Girl Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki,Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Wendy ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lucky, Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. featherless:
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  35. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: LULU, MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered.
  36. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY & HELEN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. HELEN is a young, slim & very sexy Vietnamese lady. She not only looks good, she IS good.
  37. Moon203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian girl and 2 new Asian girl today
  38. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Ivy โค๏ธ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivyโ€™s good looks
  39. Leona14th:
    SATURDAY at ๐‹๐„๐Ž๐๐€ & ๐…๐‘๐ˆ๐„๐๐ƒ๐’: * ๐—ฆ๐—ž๐—ฌ๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—ฅ is returning TODAY Saturday! Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐ โ˜Ž๏ธ (* ๐—ฆ๐—ž๐—ฌ๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—ฅ is back, by popular demand! Book early, gentlemen ๐Ÿ˜ƒ)
  40. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Sophia and young fun Yoyo open mind with Curve body, sweet GFE Lina and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  41. Lulu1980:
    Hi guys ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿคช๐ŸคชPhoenix blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนtable shower ๐Ÿšฟ shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Tiffany sexy body big boobs ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜very good body slide ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนand Angela very good table shower๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ deep massage ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366
  42. Dreaminn:
    SATURDAY[ at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: ELSA, MIMI & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ ELSA is slim, petite & very pretty student, early 20โ€™s about 5โ€™2โ€ and 105 Lbs. Elsa has an innocent look about her, but she can drive you wild with pleasure, and provides a great massage. MIMI is a cute young Asian lady with a medium build,167Cms, 110Lbs, D
  43. ASPA:
    SATUR๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny and best massage Rachel. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธMAGGIE &* TARA. Maggie is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. New Girl Tara is a young & pretty Asian girl with big melons and fun services.
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Misaki & Tracy, Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Misaki is a young and beautiful real Japanese girl with natural 34DD Cups and a great body. She is open to bbbj, dfk and cfs
  46. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜ KOREAN SUMMER AND HK GIRL FOX TO SERVE YOU TODAY
  47. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ PAYAL PEARL, SARIKA, NIMRAT, MONIKA, NINA, ASHA, SANA, MALIYA, MAY, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  48. bumika.vashi:
    VASHI NAVI MUMBAI FULL SERVICE :oops: TeleGram: @BUMIKAVASHI โ˜Ž๏ธ WhatsApp9๏ธโƒฃ9๏ธโƒฃ3๏ธโƒฃ0๏ธโƒฃ9๏ธโƒฃ1๏ธโƒฃ2๏ธโƒฃ6๏ธโƒฃ6๏ธโƒฃ9๏ธโƒฃ
  49. bumika.vashi:
    (((เค†เคชเค•เฅ‹ เคฌเคฟเคจเคพ เคจเคพเคŸเค• เคฏเคพ เคจเค–เคฐเฅ‡ เค•เคฐเคจเฅ‡ เคตเคพเคฒเคพ เคธเคฐเฅเคตเคฟเคธ เคšเคพเคนเฅ‡ เคคเฅ‹เคน เคฏเคพเคฆ เค•เคฐเคจเคพ. ))) :oops: If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it.:oops: Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not fo
  50. gentlecava:
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