Street vs. Clubs

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If you are a American in a Mexican jail because you were caught with an underage girl. You have a 99.9% of getting killed in those Mexican jails or prisons. That's reality. So be carefull.
The US jails are like a college campus compared to the Mexican jails.
 
And look what happen to Sampson. It's easy to talk bs on the board. I bet you will chit your pants if you are ever get caught with an underage SG. They will turn you in to the US authorities.
 
Oh yeah, many of them are under age. So be carefull if their ever is a sting.
 
the theory is that the mongers create the demand.

and the Swedish model of jailing the monger is gaining popularity. Nobody wants to hold the women (or girls) responsible for their actions because "we" accept that they're all victims of circumstances, powerless.

From the seventies on, most of law enforcement targetted the pimps. but that proved unsuccessful for two reasons : 1, the women wouldn't roll over on their pimps enough and 2, the pimps started developing a long term strategy of recruiting women when they're teenagers, take care of them, but don't put them to work until they're older. the pimps get the girls emotionally involved with them, as friends and lovers.

and that's been a remarkably effective and sick-schrewd strategy for them because the cops cannot recruit decoys under 18. and as a practical matter, not under 21. Let's face it: it's dangerous work.

so that leaves the mongers as the only targets left.

the upshot is that we shouldn't pay young women for sex. period. pick one that's on the safe side, and, yes, ask for ID. it's serious. it's your freedom at stake.
 
There is no circumstance under which a monger can legally "bang non-working girls 16-17y/o."

About a year ago the the age of consent in the corruption of minors act was changed from age 16 to 18. There's an exceptions that applies to those invloved in an "honorable relationship" with a minor. An honorable relationship means you are legally married to the girl or the girl's parents have given premission for a formal engagment.

Note Well: It is a felony under both US and Mexican law for US resident to have sex with a minor while visiting Mexico.
 
I am not advocating sex with minors. How is the monger to blame
for anything? The question is, how are we to know how old
these chicas really are? It is fairly easy to obtain a fake ID
in mexico, especially if you are a hot, young chica. If a girl told
me she was 16,I would never take her upstairs. The fact is girls
are looking older and if she said nothing why is the monger to
blame?
 
I'm reliably informed that it doesn't matter. Anyone under 18 is no go.

the reason has something to do with International Law. Evidently, there are only two conventions to which virtually every nation in the world agrees: (1) are the conventions against torture, which nobody pays much attention to and (2) the agreements against human trafficking, which every nation is sensitive about, especially those like Mexico whose sensibilities are frequently offended by US/European self-righteous do-gooders.

But as far as the international police are concerned (interpol) girls under the age of 18 involved in sex work are presumed to be victims of human trafficking.

And Mexico will yield, if not assist in the prosecution.

thank god older women turn me on. I pity you guys who can't get off on big juicy pussy. but there you have it: the big pussies have written laws that prohibit you from chasing their competition.
 
some help here...

I thought ageofconsent.com had the legal age in Mexico at 12, but the legal age to be a prostitute is 18??? Is it legal to bang non-working girls 16-17y/o in mexico or not?
 
Well Mr Brant, you better care about the age factor. as its criminal on both sides of the border ! And you dont want to get caught inadverntently ! As noted by Fireballs, Burt, Sampsonrico and Kitty freak, there are serious consequences to face. This doesnt mean to frighten you, you dont go to the SG route anyway. But if you do, you should be aware of it. One can bribe in most places, but sometimes there is more penalty to pay than the bribe.
 
Underage chicas is a bad topic I like to avoid. If you get caught you can probably count on the cops at least emptying your ATM and credits cards if your carrying them, and then you would be considered getting off lucky.

I highly doubt you'll be killed in prison for mistakenly or on purpose having a session with a slightly underage chica 16, or 17, you might even get sympathy from other inmates saying 'what a tough break!' Now if the underage girl was 5 years old,then you might be KILLED? [ I don't know for sure because I never been in a TJ prison, and plan on keeping it that way]

It's not worth the risk in Tijuana, besides there are a lot of nice young 18, 19 year old girl on the north side of the alley who wear little school dresses with small tits and high heels that will help you fulfill your high school sex fantasy. In fact I just did one on my last visit to TJ about two weeks ago, damn I already forget her name, but Flor comes to mind who also works there, and Vicky a innocent looking girl who always wears a dress accross the street.

The dangerous areas on on lower Constitution where some of these girls just look too young, but say they are 18. There are certain hotels a little outside the zona you should avoid too. I forgot the name, but probably wouldn't post it even if I remembered it.
 
Soliciting an under age prostitute is a big deal here. I know someone that did get caught and his family paid in excess of $30,000 to get him out of jail...if they didn't pay he would certainly been killed...it is also in violation of US law to seek out minors(less than 18) for sex.

That being said, I know of no one that has been jacked up for a card carrying street girl....there have been stings with walkers before.
 
Who cares if the SG is uderage? You are in Mexico, land of the free.
Free to bribe the cops if you get caught. I have found the SG's
to be horrible in the sack, with a few rare exceptions. I usually
stick to bar girls depending on my mood. I do, dable the
occasional SG, If I see girls that I have been with before and I
know are not going to give me ten seconds of pleasure and then
say, "you finish yet?" The important thing is to learn from
the so called,"duds" . The BG's that are really hot usually
give poor service, but are good for the trophy fuck. Last
time I was in AB I saw this really hot blonde girl, probably
a solid nine. I sat there for an hour and watched her go
upstairs with three different guys in an hours time.
 
Are some of the street girls underage? I honestly don't know, but I don't think the streets are "filled with underage prostitutes" as is sometimes reported in the media. (As is well known, I avoid street girls; others are in a better position to answer the question.)

Street girls, like bar girls, must have a health card. Which means they must show proof of age. So the presumption is that they are of age. (It is often said, of course, that some chicas use false ID or the ID of a friend/relative to get a health card.)

I'm told the inspectors are actually more vigilent in checking street girls for health cards than bar girls. (They're easier to catch as they don't have a ladies room in which to hide or back door to escape.) So again the presumption is they are of age.

Something else to consider is the physical differences among the regions in Mexico. People in southern Mexico, for example, are often shorter than the average Mexican. Being short is sometimes perceived as being young. Many street girls appear to come from Southern Mexico and are shorter than average.

To avoid possible problems I look for chicas that appear to be over 20. That, hopefully, gives me a margin of safety.
 
I am far from a TJ expert- more like an experienced semi-regular- and IMHO this is very true about younger SGs. Be sure to ask the girls age and check ID if you have any doubts. You really do not want that kind of trouble in your life- morally or legally.
 
I for one think so, I remember someone mentioning on another post, that most SGs are younger compared to the BGs, it seems right if we walk down the SG lane and notice it. The SG experts like Larry and Fireball should better answer that.
 
speaking of being exposed to risk, though, I was reading on another board that a monger's chances of meeting an underage provider is significantly greater with SG's.

does that sound true?
 
Larry, you hit the nail on the head, "can have a spark", That just about sums it. It doesnt matter whether its a SG or a Bar SG, important thing is to have that spark going. And there are pros and cons definitely, in a bar one can sit and watch and try out but also be exposed to a "ficha fuck" scam. Whereas with the SG it is a wham bham Thank You mam kind of thing. One plus point with the SG is with 20 to 30$ you are not exposed to that much risk of dissatisfaction ! :D
 
Me too! On a good day I do BOTH SGs and BGs. In TJ they are so different that it is like being in 2 different places. The BGs are a few years older, taller, bigger boobs, blonder, and better in the sack. Many of the SGs are little spinners and closer to 18-19 yo- which I also like very much.
 
you get what you pay for, pretty simple. I find as long as I make clear exactly what I want, the sgs are well worth 20 bucks. Sure I've had a few duds, but as lousy as they were, it was still just 20 bucks.

I usually just get a bj from a sg to start off the evening and let a bullet out of the chamber before getting 1-3 bar girls later in the night.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan just ar
  30. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ HANA, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  31. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Monica ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Wendy ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  32. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Coco , Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  33. KSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: CICI, HELEN, YOYO & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ CICI is a slim 110 Lbs & pretty 23 years โ€œMust Tryโ€ honey, with all menus available. HELEN stands 5โ€™3โ€ & weighs 110 Lbs, with nice 34D pillows to comfort you. YOYO is JAPANESE, 21 Yrs, 5โ€™2โ€ & 115 Lbs, with a nice big ass & great service.
  34. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ HANA, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  35. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Ivy โค๏ธ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivyโ€™s good looks
  36. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Sophia and young sweet Yoyo with curve body open mind , pretty GFE Ella and fun Lina 36DD are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  37. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ PAYAL PEARL, MAY, NIMRAT, NINA, ANGELINA, MALIYA, SANA, MONIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Suki and Tiffany Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  39. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, LUNA, TIFFANY & WENDY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. LUNA is New today. Details to follow...
  40. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ SPA: SUMMER & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5โ€™6โ€ & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy.
  41. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  42. ASPA:
    SATUR๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny and best massage Rachel. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธMAGGIE & NANA. Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like.
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Niko & Tracy, *nicole tracy cindy Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Niko is tall, very pretty, and slim with a sexy body, natural C Cups and long nipples.
  45. Tajul Islam:
    how much Per hours rate only sex
  46. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Yoyo, Young Sexy Slim Chinese Emma, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Jessica and Mia Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available Today
  48. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have amazing girls today ๐ŸŒธ HELLEN, MONIKA, NINA, AMANDA, AAVI, ANGELINA, ANAYA, SANA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  49. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl Angel๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility with Victoria- Exotic beauty with great...
  50. KSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: HELEN, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HELEN is a pretty Chinese babe, 24, 5โ€™3โ€ & 115 Lbs, can provide good services. SUKI is 23, 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body. CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5โ€™3โ€ sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares
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