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Im a MT, but Im posting here as a "client". I like to try out new places for massage occasionally, but I dont like to tell them what it is I do. Either I get a whole hour of talking shop while Im trying to relax, or worse, the therapist is so nervous the work isnt good.
I booked a massage this past Tues. The owner of the salon made a point to come into the room before we began to announce to the MT that I was, in fact, a MT myself. Woo, boy. I got a 30 min massage, and it was BAD. Too many questions, and she let me know she was so nervous working on me that her poor hands were shaking. Then she asked me for a job, in the MIDDLE of my massage! From a MT point of view, I like to be told if Im doing something the client does not like. But from a clients POV, I didnt have the heart to tell her that this profession is not for her. (aside from the above listed issues, the quality of the massage was not even that of a student)
Would you have told her? I just hate hurting anyones feelings. and she looked as if I had said anything adverse, she would have cried.
Methinks I just needed to vent!
 


I myself probably wouldn't have told her anything. Maybe the massage was bad because she was so nervous. Then again she could just suck. Or a combo of both.
I have a friend that I get to massage me every once and awhile. I HATE her massages. When she is doing my scalp my head is getting jostled all around (imagine the shampoo girl at your salon going crazy while washing your hair). She pust way too many hot towels on me. Never enough pressure no matter what I say, lack of attention in my problem areas that I have stated. She has fingernails(that hurt). Uses only her fist cause she doesn't want to blow out her thumbs or fingers.

Like you I can't tell her. Lord knows I should but it can never just roll out of my mouth.
I massaged a MT from another state the other day and she was the one that kept talking which I didn't mind at all. I was trying to not talk so she could relax more but when it got quiet she started talking again. I wasn't nervous. I liked it. I took it as a compliment that she wanted me to work on her. I know how picky I am with who I get massages from, I know some of ya'll must be as well.

Venting is always a good thing!!! :)
 


Personally, I love working on other MTs because of the potential for knowledgeable feedback, but I make it a point to not impale them with questions or shop talk outside of things I would normally ask a client (pressure, focus areas, etc.)
Besides, MTs need bodywork, too :D
I think it is unfortunate that some MTs, when they know they are working on another MT, lose thier professionalism (assuming they had it in the first place). That being said, I probably would not have said anything either :smt102
Sorry to hear your massage was not so fabulous.
 


I am just curious as to how the owner knew that you were a MT? I would have told the owner off at that point in time. It is my perogative if I want to disclose my profession for that exact reason.

I have a general GC that I can use to get a massage, hopefully I won't know the therapist since the place is near my school. I know 1 therapist that works there but I don't know her schedule... she also teaches at my school so hopefully I won't get her. I just want to go in an relax, have my time, and have a decent massage.
 


Its really hard, do you tell someone the truth and make them feel awful or just the "that was nice, thankyou" ending. I would have probably made a comment about not wanting to talk, so i can concentrate on enjoying the bodywork.

Also would have had words with the owner about their little announcement - that would have really wound me up.

Mat xxx
 


I have recently been meeting with other therapist to find someone to help me with new clients. I am pretty booked up, and would like to share the wealth, and maybe make a little bit of money on the side, and also prepare to start having a family. So, I have had to kind of "interview" some MT in my area. I specifically stated in my ad that I required Deep Tissue, and I would reiterate that when I spoke with them on the phone. Some therapists were actually so rude on the phone that I would call them back later and cancel the interview with some lie like I had already found someone. When it came time for me to give them feedback I found that I just couldn't do it. I just thanked them for their time, and complimented them on their touch. Out of the six MT that I interviewed not one of them demonstrated deep tissue. Most of them demonstrated deep pressure, but were not muscle specific. I guess my point is that I would not have been able to say anything to her either. She will probably figure it out on her own by her lack of success.

I also love to work on MTs, who else better at understanding a MT aches and pains then another MT.
 
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Wow, it's tuff to get a massage! I would have handed her my card and said
"call me, set up an appt for massage and then we can talk". O.K. that was the sarcastic me, but hey, I know exactly what you went through. It's uncomfortable and all you are trying to do is get a massage! I have been known to express my discomforts ie to much/to little pressure, unscented products please etc . I think it's perfectly acceptable to express your needs.
I am not sure you can do much about her nerves or ability to give a good massage. But, if you feel comfortable with the person giving you a massage and they are feeling a bit nervous, I think it's ok to reassure them. Hopefully, you can take care of these things before you get on the table.
 


I can totally empathasize with you all. While I was going to school, I had arranged to do an exchange with one of my instructors. I think I was like maybe 4 or 5 months into the program. I thought I was doing fine and dandy (and looking back I can definitely note my learning curve as my massage didn't really have any of my 'personality' in it - know what I mean). Anyway, afterwards, I asked him how I did and I could just tell he wanted to say something, but he was supportive and simply told me he thought I was nervous. Also, towards the tailend of school, I asked another teacher to allow my to do a one-hour massage because I wanted her feedback on overall technique. Now this time I WAS nervous. At mentioning this, I consciously calmed myself (I remembered to breahe). At the end of the massage, she thought it was great. She commented that a massage therapist will, over time, develop a style and technique that is unique to that therapist. She told me I had found mine and advised me to further develop it. I guess what I'm saying with this is that perhaps you can tell the therapist(s) a positive and not a negative and leave it at that.

As far as doing deep work, I gotta say that, in my opinion, most students and those employed at a spa most work is fluff-and-buff (because I believe most schools do not attempt to teach clinical work), deep tissue work is equated with more engagement versus addressing specific muscles or muscle groups.

I, too, love to receive work from another MT. And, yes, fortunatelly or unfortunately, you tend to expect a level of professionalism and technique that you, perhaps, like to believe you maintain with your clients.
 
Nervous Nellies.

I am an the Advisory Board for two different massage schools. Quite frequently the placement directors will occasionaly have a "Near grad" that meets what I am looking for in a therapist. So the placement director will call me set up a student massage for me at the school.

When I go in and fill out the intake sheet, as my job I truthfully write down that I'm a pro soccer referee, and I take my massages very deep.

After the massage I'll be filling out my evaluation form in front of the clinic supervisor, and tell the near grad this. "I truly am a referee, but there's something I left out." The supervisor and I start smiling. I then hand them my business card and tell them that I'm the owner, and when they pass their national, and have their state license, give me a call.

Suddenly in their eyes I transformed in Denzel Washington or Brad Pitt (Yeah in my dreams), but they start shifting from side to side, get nervous, and their voice shakes. I've heard so much about your company, this is great, this is great! Thank you, Thank you.


Others in the past when I told them who I was, and why I was here before the appointment, they get too nervous. Several try to go too deep, which is fine for me, but end up running their elbow up and down my spine 7 times, and 5 times across my ASIS. Result: I don't tell them anymore.
 
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    SATURDAY at 🍏💚𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔💚🍏: HAPPY & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5’4” and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets and very open minded.
  37. ASPA:
    SATUR𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Jenny and best massage Rachel. 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36C’s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  38. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️MAGGIE, TARA & YOYO. Maggie is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. Tara is a young & pretty Asian girl with big melons and fun services. New Girl Yoyo is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups
  39. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ KAJAL, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Niko & Tracy, *nicole tracy cindy Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Niko/color] is tall, very pretty, and slim with a sexy body, natural C Cups and long nipples.
  41. Dreaminn:
    SATURDAY at 💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: ELSA, SOPHIA & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ ELSA is slim, petite & very pretty student, early 20’s about 5’2” and 105 Lbs. Elsa has an innocent look about her, but she can drive you wild with pleasure, and provides a great massage. SOPHIA is a young & beautiful 21 year old Vietnamese lady, slim
  42. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet student Sophia and young cute Yoyo with 36DD , pretty Ella and fun GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa ♨️♨️♨️ table shower body scrub 👍👍👍We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Suki and Tiffany Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici🤗🤗🤗🤗5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call ☎️416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 PAYAL PEARL, MONIKA, NIMRAT, PAOLA, RAVEN, MALIYA, AAVI, KANIKA, KIRAN 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Moon203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st Turkish Persian girl &big boobs BoBo in Friday and Saturday
  46. KSpa:
    FRIDAY at 𝐊 𝐒𝐏𝐀: HELEN, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟵𝟮-𝟳𝟱𝟲𝟴 ☎️ HELEN is a pretty Chinese babe, 24, 5’3” & 115 Lbs, can provide good services. SUKI is 23, 5’2” & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body. CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5’3” sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares
  47. SunriseRH:
    FRIDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: EMMA & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ EMMA is a very young girl from Portugal, tall, skinny & beautiful. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
  48. NewOriental:
    FRIDAY at 🍏💚𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔💚🍏: HAPPY, HELEN & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. HELEN is a young, slim & very sexy Vietnamese lady. She not only looks good, she IS good. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5’4” and 105Lbs
  49. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 LUCY, ASHA, NISHA, AMANDA, MAY, SARIKA, KIRAN, SANA 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  50. ASPA:
    𝗙𝗥𝗜𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗮𝘁 𝗔 𝗦𝗣𝗔: 𝗔𝗺𝘆 & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
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