Question MSOG recipes

I ordered some Black Ginger from Amazon and tried it this week. The result has been a lot of diarrhea, bloating and exhaustion, and no positive affects. It could be that I personally cannot handle it, or it does not mix well with the other products I ingest. It could also be a fake product. It came in the form of a black powder that smells like tea.
Be careful with certain "natural" products and potential drugs you already take, they may not agree with body chemistry.
 
Be careful with ginseng, and certain drug interactions.
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs.

Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.

 
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help. I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help. I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs.

Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.

I've used ginseng, but the type is important, for me anyway.
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs.

Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.

Ive used it before, my Chinese friend hides it out back in his grocery store, he says for his special round eye friends, who knows he could be poisoning me slowly..lol
 
Yikes!

I am staying away from that!
ive found that after trying alot of supplements they are hit and miss and since everyones level of absorption are different , you really could be wasting time. i

ZMA at night seems to give me good morning wood.
anyone have any experiences with other vitamins you can get over the counter like Vitamin E or B12 ?
 
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help. I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help. I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.
I've used ginseng, but the type is important, for me anyway.

Ive used it before, my Chinese friend hides it out back in his grocery store, he says for his special round eye friends, who knows he could be poisoning me slowly..lol
I think Korean ginseng is the best.

I did try buying a fresh ginseng root in Chinatown but perhaps the Chinese people who sold it to me are laughing.
 
ive found that after trying alot of supplements they are hit and miss and since everyones level of absorption are different , you really could be wasting time. i

ZMA at night seems to give me good morning wood.
anyone have any experiences with other vitamins you can get over the counter like Vitamin E or B12 ?

Magnesium makes my erections firmer (that's the M in ZMA). Vitamin D3 makes them last longer. Vitamin K2 MK-7 cleared my arteries to get rid of my old age ED. Dark chocolate helps. It contains a vasodilator called theobromine. One teaspoon of nutmeg powder gives a boost about four hours later. It tastes terrible. I've read some good things recently about Kyolic aged garlic extract, but haven't tried it.

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I ordered some Black Ginger from Amazon and tried it this week. The result has been a lot of diarrhea, bloating and exhaustion, and no positive affects. It could be that I personally cannot handle it, or it does not mix well with the other products I ingest. It could also be a fake product. It came in the form of a black powder that smells like tea.
So, I found out it was not the Black Ginger that was giving me trouble. In fact I was over doing magnesium. Apparently 2 grams a day is way too much. I stopped the magnesium and all the problems went away. I will start taking magnesium again in a couple of weeks but at a much smaller dose in the evenings.
 
Korean Red Ginseng extract improved my erections but made my prostate swell up so bad I couldn't empty my bladder. Ginseng is known to increase estrogen.
Ginseng is pretty legendary among Koreans. If I go to the korean supermarket asking for it, the ladies all give me this knowing look.
 
just ordered a t booster from Amazon. had some good reviews so I will try since Im running out of. black ginger... lol see if it's good. has a red bull head on a black bottle. from rise nutrition
 
just ordered a t booster from Amazon. had some good reviews so I will try since Im running out of. black ginger... lol see if it's good. has a red bull head on a black bottle. from rise nutrition
Any news?
 
MSOG wise I have been in a slump lately (stress, maybe age catching up with me, experiments with supplements back-firing). A strategy that works to up the intensity and enjoyment is for me now is to wait longer between ejaculations. After a day I am a little frustrated, after two days very frustrated and after three days I am kind of desperate. At the three day mark the condom does not impede my enjoyment, a lot comes out of me, the orgasm is really intense and after I am so sensitive that it is painful. After the session I then knock one or two more out at home, and they are just as intense. And I notice with SWs when I am more "desperate" they feel more desired and the session is overall better. Chocolate cake is nice everyday, but great if you have not had it for a while. It may have something to do with dopamine (the reward neurotransmitter). I heard recently that constantly elevated levels of dopamine are actually toxic to neurons. Fun stops being as much fun when you do fun stuff all the time. So with that in mind, it is better to rest two days and cum three times on the third day, than it is to cum once a day for three days. At least for me at this point in my old age. For younger or healthier guys that feeling of desperation might come much faster. However long it takes (days or hours), if you can wait until you need sex rather than just wanting it, both you and your partner or SW will enjoy it more.
 
I was reading somewhere that dopamine boosters like mucuna pruriens need to be cycled. After a period of continuous use they backfire, by reducing your body's natural production. The best dopamine booster is a new partner. It's responsible for the Coolidge effect.

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I was reading somewhere that dopamine boosters like mucuna pruriens need to be cycled. After a period of continuous use they backfire, by reducing your body's natural production. The best dopamine booster is a new partner. It's responsible for the Coolidge effect.

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I can personally attest to the Coolidge Effect from my FFM threesome last summer,
 
I seem to be having the opposite problem for my last few sessions: finishing too quickly when the fun has barely started. I usually plan a "tactical nuke" about an hour before a session but it doesn't help. Any tips? Sorry for somewhat derailing the conversation but there seems to be good discussion happening here.
 
I seem to be having the opposite problem for my last few sessions: finishing too quickly when the fun has barely started. I usually plan a "tactical nuke" about an hour before a session but it doesn't help. Any tips?

Try more nukes. You might need to start sooner, possibly even the day before. I've also read some interesting reports of a product called Pau Yuen Tong (PYT) balm. It is a numbing balm that uses clove oil as the active ingredient. There are some great reviews and some poor ones. The great reviews seem to indicate that you have to use the correct application procedure. Supposedly, if you get it right, you can last a long time without loss of sensation. I haven't tried it. You can buy it on Amazon.
 
I was reading somewhere that dopamine boosters like mucuna pruriens need to be cycled. After a period of continuous use they backfire, by reducing your body's natural production. The best dopamine booster is a new partner. It's responsible for the Coolidge effect.

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Any suggestions about cycles, say four weeks on, one week off?
 
Any suggestions about cycles, say four weeks on, one week off?

For mucuna the recommendation seems to be 5 days on, then 2 days off. After three weeks of that, take a whole week off. For maca there are different suggestions. Take a week off every month, or two months on, one month off. Some say one day off per week. idk
 
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    โœฐ BLUEXADO SPA โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6 Vaughan ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Hanna from Vietnam, young and good energeticโ€ฆGreat Service...๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ELLY | KELLY (age 21) is Vietnamese Chinese. She is 5'6" tall, has a slender build, and possesses an energetic personality...Available treatments include...๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH | LINDA a 21-year-old Vietnamese, offers comfortable and professional full-body treatments.๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณMIMI | CANDY (New) 19Yrs Vietnamese beautiful face, very friendly...Must See...@ BLUE
  34. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Vicy and Jenny Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas W Etobicoke Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  35. Pink Flower Spa:
    โœฐ 416.299.5515 โœฐ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ Mandy | Mady (New) Indian | Filipino 19Yrs, hair to shoulder, pretty face...Nice Service...๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Hanna from Vietnam, young and good energeticโ€ฆGreat Service...๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULLIE | JESSIE a 19-year-old Chinese and Vietnamese woman, provides exceptional service with her youthful beauty...๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ง A talented Girl from Lebanon is joining our team, bringing with her a unique set of skills and a fresh perspective....Details to be reveal
  36. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธMALIYA, RAVEN, NINA, PAOLA, ANGEL, AAVI, PAYAL PEARL, SANA, KIRAN๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. dave guhan:
    ๐Ÿ’‹ ALEX is back! ๐Ÿ’‹ HOT BLONDE UKRAINIAN GIRL ๐Ÿ’‹ 4 hands massage available only $40 ๐Ÿ’‹ Open until 9pm ๐Ÿ’‹ 608 THE QUEENSWAY ETOBICOKE ๐Ÿ’‹ 416-354-2009 ๐Ÿ’‹
  38. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Thursday๏ผšNew girl Judy ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ Vittoria- Sweet school girl with a large serving of naughtiness Angela- Slim beauty with long legs and nice proportions Julia- Exotic...
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  40. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Anika , New Young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tiffany,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต
  41. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, HANA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  42. Birchmount&14th:
    THURSDAY at ๐๐ˆ๐‘๐‚๐‡๐Œ๐Ž๐”๐๐“ & ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’๐ญ๐ก: JESSIE & YUKI. Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐ โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐—๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—˜ is a slim and very lovely Asian girl with massage skills of the highest degree. ๐—ฌ๐—จ๐—ž๐—œ is here today to provide an amazing professional massage. We are open 24 Hours daily. We have clean rooms and plenty of free parking.
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at Sugar Love Spa: Angela, Hana, Jennifer & Tiffany. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž 437-365-2688 โ˜Ž ANGELA(9pm-5am) is new today. Details later... HANA(9pm-5am) is a slim, sexy & very liberal Mexican lady with incredible services. JENNIFER is friendly and service oriented. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim
  44. Moon203:
    MoonMoon/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Good service Cuban girl Mimi and 36F big tits BoBo in Thursday
  45. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
  46. KSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: ADA, VICKY, KELLY & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ ADA is 23, 5โ€™4โ€ and 120 Lbs, sweet and sexy with a nice 36C bust and great services. VICKY is 21, Korean, 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs, with a cute pretty face, good service, & nice 34B pillows to comfort you. KELLY stands 5โ€™3โ€ & weighs 110 Lbs, with nice 34D's
  47. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful sexy sm
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet Tina with curve body and young fun Ivy with big buttocks , young Japanese Lily 36 DDD and pretty GFE Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Dreaminn:
    THURSDAY at๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: EVA, HONEY & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ EVA is a slim, pretty & sexy Asian girl. She has excellent bbbj skills if you are nice and clean, and can perform like a champion. HONEY is a beautiful slim Asian lady with an ample bosom, slightly curvy with a great ass. Her services are highly sought after.
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