MPA/SP horror stories

I would say yes and no. Yes, there are more cameras and better security systems these days for cars but knowing what i know, all it takes is one drug crazed person to smash a window real quick or break out a slim Jim to access a car. Or if the crooks are sophisticated, tow your car away.. If this was LA, I would stay away from taking your car to do this but here in Toronto, it just depends on where you are meeting I guess.. I don't know Toronto like I do LA so the good and bad spots are still a mystery to me here..

How long have you been here now? Are you here for good or returning to LA at some point?
 
I have a few friends that have moved down to LA. Never met anyone moving here from there.
 
I have plans to go back - I don't know when - I guess it depends on what my girlfriend wants to do with our relationship - 13 years now - that's why I keep my Avatar the same - always makes me think of home..

So you came here for work or because of your GF? Other than weather, how do you compare living here compared to US?
 
It's less active. It's lifestyles are different. Like right now, I would be heading to the beach for one reason or another. You can make 10 different, good reasons to go, if not for girl watching... seaside towns are the best - put on your khaki short's, Tommy Bahama silk shirt and sandals are you are set my man!! - sorry gotta edit this, you can add on to that list cool, blacked out shades...

👍 Haha, like the ones you left at AA's place...
 
3 of the airport taxi cab drivers who died of covid 19 recently were regulars at various spas across the GTA is a horror story that should make us all think twice before jumping back in when things reopen (confirmed by two cab drivers I've spoken to and got to know personally through my own business who knew them very well). Cabbies in general we know visit often and are regulars (older married men with cash at their disposal, can't tell you the amount of times I've seen cabs parked outside seduction, pure and flirt), no knock on them, but if covid hits in waves going forward scares me. Not sure what to think or do anymore.
 
3 of the airport taxi cab drivers who died of covid 19 recently were regulars at various spas across the GTA is a horror story that should make us all think twice before jumping back in when things reopen (confirmed by two cab drivers I've spoken to and got to know personally through my own business who knew them very well). Cabbies in general we know visit often and are regulars (older married men with cash at their disposal, can't tell you the amount of times I've seen cabs parked outside seduction, pure and flirt), no knock on them, but if covid hits in waves going forward scares me. Not sure what to think or do anymore.
no offence to airport cabbies, they have stiff competition with uber and other form of ubers. They barely make enough. How can they afford to visit spas.

Also nobody can pin point where exactly people contract the virus from. If your statement is true, most of us the hobbyist would have been inflected already and dead.
 
no offence to airport cabbies, they have stiff competition with uber and other form of ubers. They barely make enough. How can they afford to visit spas.

Also nobody can pin point where exactly people contract the virus from. If your statement is true, most of us the hobbyist would have been inflected already and dead.
Not stating that it came from cabbies nor am I suggesting that they spread it through the spa yet. Simply put, the nature of their job exposes them to risk (specifically airport taxi) and I know plenty of them who visit spas regularly. The airport taxi industry was hit hard with covid thats a fact, and many of the drivers visit spas .. draw your own conclusions..

In terms of making money your right, number of drivers with disposable income will certainly reduce because of covid and uber.

I know 3 current drivers who visit mpas from atleast two spas privately during this time. Just a heads up, no knock on anyone.
 
no offence to airport cabbies, they have stiff competition with uber and other form of ubers. They barely make enough. How can they afford to visit spas.

Also nobody can pin point where exactly people contract the virus from. If your statement is true, most of us the hobbyist would have been inflected already and dead.
Totally.

...correlation isn’t causation.

...risk averse folks, wait abit, but ... eventually, take plunge or change hobbies...
 
3 of the airport taxi cab drivers who died of covid 19 recently were regulars at various spas across the GTA is a horror story that should make us all think twice before jumping back in when things reopen (confirmed by two cab drivers I've spoken to and got to know personally through my own business who knew them very well). Cabbies in general we know visit often and are regulars (older married men with cash at their disposal, can't tell you the amount of times I've seen cabs parked outside seduction, pure and flirt), no knock on them, but if covid hits in waves going forward scares me. Not sure what to think or do anymore.
I've seen cabs parked outside the spas at night. At the time, I thought they were just dropping off and picking up customers.
 
I’ve stuck to mp’s so I’ve personally avoided my own horror stories.

My weirdest experience was when I went to see Olivia at Silhouette years ago.


She was considered one of the hottest women in the business at the time but her reviews were lacklustre, she was called mechanical. I saw her, she was smoking hot, i don’t push so she became more relaxed as the session went on. After the session, we do the shower and change routine and she briefly leaves the room for some towels to restock the room for the next session. Nothing out of the ordinary at this point. She comes back in and I’m dressed and about to pay her and leave. She’s looking nervous and I pay her and about to leave and she stops me and asks me to stay a bit longer. Seeing her look scared I ask if something is wrong. She said there is a guy at the front desk that always comes in as a walk-in and asks for her. If she is in a room and busy he’ll leave. I ask if he’s rough then tell the manager to turn him away. She said no, he bleeds from his penis. I said if he has a cut he shouldn’t be coming to the spa. She said no, he bleeds from the urethra. She was comfortable with me and just wanted me to hang around until he left. I stayed another 10-15 minutes to chat. She peaks out the door to see he’s gone, her tension level drops and I’m on my way.

She was out of the business not long after that but it goes to show some of the shit mpa’s have to deal with and how jaded or distant it can make some of them.
 
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I’ve stuck to mp’s so I’ve personally avoided my own horror stories.

My weirdest experience was when I went to see Olivia at Silhouette years ago.


She was considered one of the hottest women in the business at the time but her reviews were lacklustre, she was called mechanical. I saw her, she was smoking hot, i don’t push so she became more relaxed as the session went on. After the session, we do the shower and change routine and she briefly leaves the room for some towels to restock the room for the next session. Nothing out of the ordinary at this point. She comes back in and I’m dressed and about to pay her and leave. She’s looking nervous and I pay her and about to leave and she stops me and asks me to stay a bit longer. Seeing her look scared I ask if something is wrong. She said there is a guy at the front desk that always comes in as a walk-in and asks for her. If she is in a room and busy he’ll leave. I ask if he’s rough then tell the manager to turn him away. She said no, he bleeds from his penis. I said if he has a cut he shouldn’t be coming to the spa. She said no, he bleeds from the urethra. She was comfortable with me and just wanted me to hang around until he left. I stayed another 10-15 minutes to chat. She peaks out the door to see he’s gone, her tension level drops and I’m on my way.

She was out of the business not long after that but it goes to show some of the shit mpa’s have to deal with and how jaded or distant it can make some of them.
Crap. That only means he's got cancer.
 
I have 2 horrors stories. One of them was more than 10 years ago when I just started to hobby a bit and back in those days there wasn't review forums (at least I didn't discover them yet). I was horny one night and call up a very cheap ads on Chinatown (obvious huge red flag) and ended up seeing this very old Chinese woman that is at least 50s+ and by far the worst that I've ever done anything with. But being a super horn dog back in my younger days, I just let her suck me off and she never didn't get me off. I never ever done anyone remotely that bad afterward lol.

The 2nd story was about 6 years ago I went to Ottawa for work and decided to check out the local talent. Drove to some spa I found on the internet, the reception asks me who I wanted to see and I just told her to pick someone for me. Big mistake and later one a fat white bitch just came in. Looking back I should've just told her they made a mistake. Worse is that she can't even massage for shit. Anyway I think she just gave me a handjob. I learned never let reception picks girls, they are fucking idiots and usually pick like the worst one for you.
 
I have 2 horrors stories. One of them was more than 10 years ago when I just started to hobby a bit and back in those days there wasn't review forums (at least I didn't discover them yet). I was horny one night and call up a very cheap ads on Chinatown (obvious huge red flag) and ended up seeing this very old Chinese woman that is at least 50s+ and by far the worst that I've ever done anything with. But being a super horn dog back in my younger days, I just let her suck me off and she never didn't get me off. I never ever done anyone remotely that bad afterward lol.

The 2nd story was about 6 years ago I went to Ottawa for work and decided to check out the local talent. Drove to some spa I found on the internet, the reception asks me who I wanted to see and I just told her to pick someone for me. Big mistake and later one a fat white bitch just came in. Looking back I should've just told her they made a mistake. Worse is that she can't even massage for shit. Anyway I think she just gave me a handjob. I learned never let reception picks girls, they are fucking idiots and usually pick like the worst one for you.
Shoot. I let a Spa pick one for me once, and she turned out to be one of my favourites ever. Maybe at that Spa you went to, all the girls were bad.
 
Many different horror stories over the years, both MP's and SP's. From having LE knock on door and come in on a session to getting jumped and fighting with pimp to getting blackmail calls threatening to tell my SO. Probably need a few hours to remember and type them up, but the scariest (at the time) all seemed to involve LE and getting caught (not once was a ticket/fine ever written, only name/info taken). Had one SP have an attack/episode just after we finished a BBJTCIM and I was just getting dressed. Freaked for a while about having BJ's after that (Chomp!!). Had one SP where we were going at it and her husband came home.......that was a bit intense (another reason I park a bit away and walk). Learned the whole stairs/elevator trick 20 years ago. Many good times and would be an interesting novel to write one day with everyone's stories !!! Been robbed only once, learned my lesson. No tickets, no fines, no blackmails, no hospital trips, but a lot of heart-racing encounters !!!
 
I'm pretty sure I posted this here before but here. I was going to see Asian Angela for the first time and this happened. Still not sure if it's really her place since I never went back but it was at Kennedy and Sheppard:

Anyway, I went to go see an asian escort sloot. I get there and she texts me that she's upstairs (like a 2 story mini condo area). While I'm there some sloot is banging on the door and lures me in to her little weird booth. I thought she was the escort but it turns out she was some other crazy sloot that steals her clients.

She was like a 6.5/10 but had some GOAT teddies. I tell the bish to start sucking and she phuking pulls out saran wrap and puts it over my dink. I'm thinking wtf so I grab it and throw it to the side and try and get her to suck it and she starts screaming chinese sht and threatens to bite my dink. So I was just like phuk it I start sucking her teddies while jerking off so I can get hard and eventually got hard enough to put on the rubber and phuk her.

The bish rode me like her life depended on it all while screaming some crazy chinese. I ended up busting pretty quick cuz everytime I tried to switch positions and/or get her to slow down she hissed at me with a deep voice like a phuking snake and it freaked the sht out of me. After I jizzed she yanked the condom off my dink so hard it hurt like a bish so I just shoved her to the side and got the phuk out of there. Bish was legit mentally unstable.
where is this angela located? would you provide me her contact info?
 
I'm relatively new to this Hobby but frequently indulge (4 times a week)...
Fortunately I don't have a crazy horror story of getting robbed but this one is quite interesting.
I booked a hh with a girl I saw on LL. Her pics were verified but I couldn't find any info on her. She tells me the address and I show up. The first red flag was the price ($80 for HH)...
Now I get to this location (its infront of Oakwood collegiate) and its a store front on st clair. First off, not the best location during rush hour as many people see you going up a sketchy stair case to what the area knows is a local brothel. I get inside and meet my SW. The lighting inside this place is horrible and I could barely see her. First, it was a bait and switch... I saw this natural busty lady on the ad but was met with this plastic BBW... with horrible surgery. I get lead into a room and this is where the panic starts. The room is filthy. I'm talking, I didn't feel safe putting my clothes on the floor. The bed has used sheets with holes and the pillows look black under their covers. She tells me to get undressed and comes back 14 minutes later. At this point I'm like fuck... i'm getting set up for a robbery. She comes back and I lay down and I realize, the ceiling has a fucking hole in it. Luckily it was a sunny day but I could tell the bed and room was wet from the rain the day before. The service was rushed and she gave me the bare minimum. Did the deed and ran out of their so fast. Got home and washed all my clothes and didn't feel safe entering my home with my clothes on.

The bed definitely had bed bugs. Saw a mouse as I was waiting. This house was filled with Hookers and was a total trap house. Never felt so scared in my life. Definitely got my guard up as I'm now skeptical before seeing anyone for LL.

UPDATED HER CONTACT INFO WITH HER AD BELOW - The house has over 6+ girls. Stay clear of any incall in the oakwood and st.clair area. She also is known to be around dufferin north.
437-772-8045 PERLA
 
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    SATURDAY at 🍏💚𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔💚🍏: HAPPY, LULU, MICHELLE & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times. MICHELLE is a young,curvy
  29. ASPA:
    SATUR𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Jenny and best massage Rachel. 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36C’s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  30. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lucky, Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  31. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️MAGGIE &* TARA. Maggie is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. New Girl Tara is a young & pretty Asian girl with big melons and fun services.
  32. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Misaki & Tracy, Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Misaki is a young and beautiful real Japanese girl with natural 34DD Cups and a great body. She is open to bbbj, dfk and cfs
  33. Dreaminn:
    SATURDAY[ at 💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: AMY & MIMI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ AMY is a sweet and friendly Chinese vixen, 158Cms, 115Lbs, with C Cups and very willing to please. MIMI is a cute young Asian lady with a medium build,167Cms, 110Lbs, D Cups & very open minded services.
  34. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young girls are working today, young new sweet Yoyo 36 DD with curve body and young cute student Sophia, pretty fun Lina and cute GFE Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage. Pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  35. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯💯💯 - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Apple😘 - Brand new girl from Taiwan just a
  36. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(437) 818-8896☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Ivy ❤️ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivy’s good looks
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa ♨️♨️♨️table shower body scrub 🌹🌹🌹🔥🔥🔥Angela and Tiffany sexy body 🤪🤪big boobs Round and plump buttocks Round and plump buttocks😵😵😵😵😵hot body slide for you 😜😜😜😜😜😜5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke ☎️416-817-3366
  38. bumika.vashi:
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  39. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 CHASIDY, LUCY, PAOLA, AMANDA, MAY, KIRAN, NISHA, ANGEL 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  40. Turnernator1:
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  41. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday:New jap tina 💋💋 :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility CiCi- Exotic beauty with great service and...
  42. Sparkling Spa:
    📣📣50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!!📣📣 END YOUR WEEK 🍆🍑💧💧WITH A WILD TIME WITH🎌🎌 JAPANESE CHANEL🎌🎌 & 🇭🇰TAIWANESE ZOE 🇭🇰905-604-8186!!!
  43. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am,New First Day Young Slim Sexy Thai Girl Janice, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki,Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  44. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯💯💯 - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Anna😘- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
  45. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(437) 818-8896☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Bella 😘 is a beautiful Vietnamese busty girl, very sexy, with RMT style massage and very good playful service. So friendly, and nice. Summer ❤️ has nice sexy body, and nice breasts. She can give very good massage and fun service. Very s
  46. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Michelle,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Aad,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry 🏠address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  47. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cici , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . 🏠 2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 🦵🦵👅👅🈵🈵👄👄
  48. SunriseRH:
    FRIDAY at SUNRISE SPA: MICHELLE, LULU & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 647-325-8086 ☎️ HELEN is a young, slim & very sexy Vietnamese lady. She not only looks good, she IS good. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times. SUMMER is a sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure
  49. NewOriental:
    FRIDAY at 🍏💚NEW ORIENTAL SPA💚🍏: HAPPY, HELEN & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 647-381-2688 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. HELEN is a young, slim & very sexy Vietnamese lady. She not only looks good, she IS good. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5’4” and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets
  50. aaro_991:
    Athens ga
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