Migraines in Adolescents

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I've had two people in the last two years bring their children in for us to try and help them with their migraines. We are considered one of their last hopes.

The first time, the child was 10-11 and he's had migraines for two years. The parents brought the child to a number of doctors, specialists, etc. with no answer. I don't feel that I was able to help him either.

Within the past month, a mother brought her 15-16 year old with the same thing! Numerous doctors, diet plans, medicines, ...the works! The client has had migraines for the past 5 years. Both cases said that the migraines are constant.

One of them said that the doctor prescribed Neurontin and even THAT doesn't help! (I think that doctors give this medicine when the reason for pain isn't clear and this just deadens the nerves)

Has anyone run into anything like this?
 


Has anyone tried craniosacral therapy for these kids? CST helps settle mine when even Rx meds don't work because it helps "unstick" the sutural joints and get the dura and spinal fluid moving properly again.

Just a suggestion
 


When my son had migraines, we found that he was allergic to both msg and to a red dye - Red 40. Eliminating those from his diet eliminated his migraines completely. Drinking peppermint tea (or eating peppermint leaves off the plant at times when he was desperate to stop a migraine as it got started) would eliminate the pain within minutes and keep him from the nausea and vomiting. He would still sleep a good 12 hours, but skipped to that instead of suffering for hours, first.

From a massage standpoint, TPs in the pterygoid can cause migraines, and often require intra-oral massage.

If you have a good reference for what trigger points can refer to the head, you can check for those, too. If you could deal with it by relieving TPs in the traps, for instance, you wouldn't need to try the intra-oral work at all. In this day of constant computer and video game usage, a child could easily have a lot of TPs and other muscular and fascial restrictions.
 
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Can you believe no one at the facility (including myself :( ) knows CST??

Am I allowed to mention the peppermint tea to the client or would that be considered outside of my scope of practice? (Since they have to consume it, would it be for a nutritionist or something?)
 
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tksbussong said:
Has anyone run into anything like this?

Not as a professional, but I've lived it. I've had migraines since I was a child. Earliest I remember were at 5 y.o., but my parents tell me they think I had my first one at 6 months old.

I've tried every remedy I know of (although I have never heard of the peppermint one. I will be trying that this morning. I've had this migraine since Saturday.) There is medication that works for me about 50% of the time, but it cannot be prescribed to children.

The thing to keep in mind about children, migraines and massage (and I've said this before,) is that even if your treatment doesn't reduce or eliminate the migraine, it gives the subject a temporary break from the pain. This is very valuable, as it allows the person to recoup.

The worst thing about chronic migraine (besides the actual pain,) is that it is so constant, sometimes you feel like you are going insane. 30 minutes of massage can (literally) be a lifesaver.
 
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Breathe said:
The thing to keep in mind about children, migraines and massage (and I've said this before,) is that even if your treatment doesn't reduce or eliminate the migraine, it gives the subject a temporary break from the pain. This is very valuable, as it allows the person to recoup.

The worst thing about chronic migraine (besides the actual pain,) is that it is so constant, sometimes you feel like you are going insane. 30 minutes of massage can (literally) be a lifesaver.

A little OT, but I remember learning that since migraines are circulatory, that working the head and neck would increase the vascular pressure and then make the migraine worse, or even trigger one. I suppose they were teaching this in relation to massage being effective at relieving tension HA. Would someone who knows mind clarifying this for me?
 
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ccMarie said:
A little OT, but I remember learning that since migraines are circulatory, that working the head and neck would increase the vascular pressure and then make the migraine worse, or even trigger one. I suppose they were teaching this in relation to massage being effective at relieving tension HA. Would someone who knows mind clarifying this for me?

As a sufferer of migraines since about age 10... I can also say massage can be a lifesaver. Sometimes you have to get to a knot that will set-up in the occiput and just work that puppy out. Then sleep it off or take your meds.

I am in my 40's so I don't take a lot of meds for my migraines and have them down to about 5 per year now (depending on stress and the like)... from at least every 3-6 weeks as a youngster / young adult. If I eat too much chocolate AND orange juice at the same time (within about a week), I'll get one.

I can't tell you what to do for a child in your practice, but I can tell you that even as a child, my dad would work "knots" out of my neck which would at least help diminish the problem for me back then.

I was put on migraine meds around age 14 --Midrin... nowdays, I can take Excedrin Migraine and sleep it off when I am lucky. Imitrex makes me vomit. :( If I get regular neck work though, I can go even longer without a migraine most times.


As a side note... I have a client who's daughter killed herself because of severe migraines. They can ruin a life / many lives in this case.
 


1 more odd thought about using CST for migraines ---- CST can also help to keep the sutural lines in "good working order" so that impingement in the sutural lines is not contributing to any other triggers that these kids are experiencing.

fwiw
 


Am I allowed to mention the peppermint tea to the client or would that be considered outside of my scope of practice? (Since they have to consume it, would it be for a nutritionist or something?)

I would be pretty cautious with this type of advice, it doesn't seem like a big deal really, but depending on your state laws you could be overstepping your boundaries. You could suggest to the parent to consult an herbalist, nutritional therapist, or something of that sort. If they are open to suggestions you could always get their e-mail address and you could send them information, since you would not be charging for the service and it would be viewed as a favor.
Have they looked into chiropractic therapy?
 
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tksbussong said:
Can you believe no one at the facility (including myself :( ) knows CST??

Am I allowed to mention the peppermint tea to the client or would that be considered outside of my scope of practice? (Since they have to consume it, would it be for a nutritionist or something?)

I have never told a client to try peppermint tea, but I have related my son's experience with it. I've also related that I've read of others using ice on their neck and heat on their feet simultaneously, ginger tea, dark, quiet rooms, etc. None of this could be construed as a prescription, but rather, "these are things I have heard of helping others".

I would keep it verbal, though, rather than email. Any email advice I'd offer would be very strictly within my scope of practice - how to find a particular muscle/muscle group to massage or stretch, etc. I'd think anything in writing *could* be considered a prescription and in my state that can only be massage related. Check with your state.
 
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I had migraines throughout my years in high school. Part of it was hereditary, my mom had them as a teenager, but part was also stress related. My parents separated the beginning of October my freshman year. My migraines started not soon after that. Coincidence? I think not. It got so bad that I was being sent home once a week. (This was from 93-94.) The doctors prescribed for me massageplanetergot, which is now Excedrin Migraine. If I got a migraine in school, I would goto the nurses office, take some, and sleep a couple of periods. So I'd only miss part of the day. The rest of the day afterwards wasn't pleasant, but it was bearable.

Oh, and a thing that would set the headache off all the time was flickering flourescent lights.

Just my story. Don't have much to add now about treating them as I don't get them anymore. Maybe once every 2-3 years.
 
Migraines in Adolescents

I'm also a migraine sufferer. I have multiple triggers, and they tend to go on for 2 to 4 days at a time.

I have found that I can not have any artificial sweeter - at least in anything larger than what is in sugar free gum. I am going to have to perhaps give that up as well.

I know a D.C. who said that he tried doing some self massage on the middle of his abs, up high near the xyphoid process while he had his back extended like laying on one of those big exercise balls. I tried this and used VERY LITTLE pressure, just basically rubbed there and the pain was intense. Even the next day. The point of this is that he gets migraines like clockwork and doing massage like that on himself he said that he caused a delay in symptoms for a few days which was SIGNIFICANT for him.

So far I have found that codeine helps me the most. I also have tried Maxalt, but I really don't notice any difference with that medication. I am looking to try biofeedback and see if I have some success with that.

It is my opinion that migraines come on from so many different reasons and that is why they are hard to nail down with one fix it solution. The only real similarity is the fact that they can be severely debilitating. I actually go into a panic/anxiety mode when I start to even hint at a headache. I am sure that makes it worse. :roll: I don't think I am alone in having that feeling since we know what we may be in for - for days at a time.
 
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I started having migraines at the age of 16. At first, I would get 1-2 debilitating migraines a month. I figured that they were hormonal. By the time I had my first child and started massage school at the age of 23, I was up to 2-3 a WEEK. Each time I had one, I was down for the entire day. Not very good when trying to go to school and have a little one. When I was in massage school, the Chiro that taught my Pathology course explained to me that I might have a cranial issue. She uses AK in her adjustments, and when testing me, discovered that I had a sphenoid tilt. She adjust this, and I did not have a migraine for 2 years when I hit my head again. This time, it was a frontal shift. But that's what worked for me.. Now I am migraine free!
 
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    FRIDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: ANGELA, KELLY & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ ANGELA is a slim pretty lady from China, with natural boobs, slim waist and grabbable ass. KELLY is a young & pretty Asian girl, very slim model figure, 5โ€™3โ€ with unreal bbbj skills & very liberal services. TINA is a Vietnamese girl
  32. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Tina 35 years old with curve body and young pretty student Summer 30 years old , sexy Coco and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  33. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Mia, Nana & Sasa. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves. She can bbbj like a queen, & is open to dfk & cfs.
  34. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Young Slim Sexy Chinese Yoyo, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  35. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธCindy & Lina Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did.
  36. Flowers Spa:
    โœฐ BLUEXADO SPA โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6 Vaughan ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Hanna from Vietnam, young and good energeticโ€ฆGreat Service...๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ELLY | KELLY (age 21) is Vietnamese Chinese. She is 5'6" tall, has a slender build, and possesses an energetic personality...Available treatments include...๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH | LINDA a 21-year-old Vietnamese, offers comfortable and professional full-body treatments.๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณMIMI | CANDY (New) 19Yrs Vietnamese beautiful face, very friendly...Must See...@ BLUE
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Vicy and Jenny Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas W Etobicoke Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  38. Pink Flower Spa:
    โœฐ 416.299.5515 โœฐ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ Mandy | Mady (New) Indian | Filipino 19Yrs, hair to shoulder, pretty face...Nice Service...๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Hanna from Vietnam, young and good energeticโ€ฆGreat Service...๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULLIE | JESSIE a 19-year-old Chinese and Vietnamese woman, provides exceptional service with her youthful beauty...๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ง A talented Girl from Lebanon is joining our team, bringing with her a unique set of skills and a fresh perspective....Details to be reveal
  39. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธMALIYA, RAVEN, NINA, PAOLA, ANGEL, AAVI, PAYAL PEARL, SANA, KIRAN๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  40. dave guhan:
    ๐Ÿ’‹ ALEX is back! ๐Ÿ’‹ HOT BLONDE UKRAINIAN GIRL ๐Ÿ’‹ 4 hands massage available only $40 ๐Ÿ’‹ Open until 9pm ๐Ÿ’‹ 608 THE QUEENSWAY ETOBICOKE ๐Ÿ’‹ 416-354-2009 ๐Ÿ’‹
  41. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Thursday๏ผšNew girl Judy ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ Vittoria- Sweet school girl with a large serving of naughtiness Angela- Slim beauty with long legs and nice proportions Julia- Exotic...
  42. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  43. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Anika , New Young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tiffany,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต
  44. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, HANA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  45. Birchmount&14th:
    THURSDAY at ๐๐ˆ๐‘๐‚๐‡๐Œ๐Ž๐”๐๐“ & ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’๐ญ๐ก: JESSIE & YUKI. Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐ โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐—๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—˜ is a slim and very lovely Asian girl with massage skills of the highest degree. ๐—ฌ๐—จ๐—ž๐—œ is here today to provide an amazing professional massage. We are open 24 Hours daily. We have clean rooms and plenty of free parking.
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at Sugar Love Spa: Angela, Hana, Jennifer & Tiffany. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž 437-365-2688 โ˜Ž ANGELA(9pm-5am) is new today. Details later... HANA(9pm-5am) is a slim, sexy & very liberal Mexican lady with incredible services. JENNIFER is friendly and service oriented. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim
  47. Moon203:
    MoonMoon/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Good service Cuban girl Mimi and 36F big tits BoBo in Thursday
  48. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
  49. KSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: ADA, VICKY, KELLY & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ ADA is 23, 5โ€™4โ€ and 120 Lbs, sweet and sexy with a nice 36C bust and great services. VICKY is 21, Korean, 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs, with a cute pretty face, good service, & nice 34B pillows to comfort you. KELLY stands 5โ€™3โ€ & weighs 110 Lbs, with nice 34D's
  50. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
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