IHM with client on massage table

One IHM call I went to showed us an old black & white Indian movie ('40s? '50s?), with the champissage man singing his song (Bollywood style before it was called Bollywood?) walking down the streen with his fold up chair, he'd unfold it and work on someone (hardly any oil, he just rubbed a bit in his hand like a barber does in movies ) and fold the chair up and move on. It was in Hindi, but our instructor was giving us a translation. Most of the moves were pretty much as per Nerendra Mehta's routine, there were even upper arm squeezes.

THAT's what IHM means to me.

I've learnt LOTS of different techniques, and I will use whatever works for the client in a treatment, pulling from any of the techniques I know, they'll get Thai, Hawaiian, MLD, Shiatsu, stones, Ayurvedic, whatever in a bit of a soup of a treatment, but that soup treatment, I would no more call a lomi lomi massage than I would call it IHM.
If someone books in for a lomi lomi, that's what they get; if someone books in for IHM, that's what they get; if someone books in for a generic treatment, they get whatever I do in that treatment which draws on a variety of modalities.

Labels ARE important. If I booked in somewhere for IHM and they told me to get undressed and get on the table, it would not be what I was expecting. I would think the person didn't know what they were doing. Maybe I wanted a traditional IHM because I didn't want to get undressed, since I have body issues, cultural standards, or whatever.

Is it if you only know IHM you want to be able to adapt it, to cater for all environments? And if you have a whole lot of modalities to draw from, you know there is no point mislabelling something, it just confuses people? you can adapt without having to call it IHM?
 
IMHO You are absolutely right cola.

IHM is IHM. I experienced it in the 1960โ€™s whilst in India and have been teaching and practicing it for many years. If we are going to give a body massage then we should advertise it at such. Not as IHM. If people wish to change the core details or direction of a therapy then they should call it something different. Instead of offering Indian head massage why not say that you are offering โ€œupper body massageโ€ or even โ€œwestern head massageโ€

After all โ€œwestern head massageยฉ 2007โ€ based on the principle of IHM would appear to be an honest and transparent way to go.
 
Phew!

I was starting to feel very lonely for a minute there, thanks Cola and Healistic, I couldn't agree more!



Yes Cola, from reading some of the threads and my own experience I think this is a very valid point.

Siberia suddenly feels a bit warmer and friendlier!
 
Hi ya

At last some evidence!

This is what I have been trying to drag out through debate.

It is very easy to make assumptions (that's a generalise comment) and believe such a thing about something because the tutor says so.

I'm going to use Cola's comments (if you don't mind) in my next IHM course intake. I feel as a tutor I have got to be as accurate as possible.

Thanking you all.

Dave
 
Hi ya

Just as an added point, did you know that 2 recent IHM books have added arm and hand massage to the routine. Is this still IHM?

One of these books is the new 3rd edition Indian Head Massage by Helen McGuinness. An excellent textbook but it does have that extended routine. Should I teach arm & hand massage or not?

Yours, the cheekest of pixies

Dave
 
Hi Dave IMHO Yes you can teach any extended routine as I do, but I always say to my students, "There are many extensions in all holistic therapies and whilst they are not original they are beneficial to your client and you can offer them as an add on to your clientโ€. An example would be to say to their clients โ€œI offer traditional IHM and if you wish you can also have a hand and arm massageโ€ etc etc. IMO you can offer many varieties within the field of Holistic therapy, provided that you say implicitly what you offer and are fully trained and insured to do so.

My only concern with the add-onโ€™s is that it seems to be heading in the direction that each therapy is interlinking with each other. Whilst this in principle is a good idea, we do need to be sure that the training reflects that. An example would be the use of essential oils into a therapy without full training in their use and contraindications Etc.

The other side of the coin is, if you want to publish and sell a new book or course then all you need to do is to add a new move and bob's your uncle it becomes "New" and within a few months the traditional has gone. Why can't they just admit it and issue the book and call it โ€œa new style of head and body massageโ€
 
Hi ya healistic

Thanks for your reply.

I think you hit the nail on the head (if you pardon the pun), how can you sell books, well you have a different twist.

My scheme of work this year is based on 5 x 10 hour weekend workshops, where the last weekend I'm going to go into extentions and variations to the routine. I don't think it's fair on students to pressurise them into extra stuff since they only have 30 minutes in the practical exam anycase.

As for books admitting a new style of head work, at least there is Head Massage by Rosalind Widdowson (not easy to follow but full of interesting ideas) and Dr. Wu's Head Massage (based on TCM). But understand what you mean.

Cheers

Dave
 
Personally I'd recommend waiting for thr fourth edition as by then you will be able to peform an IHM involving head, neck, face, shoulders, back, arms, hands and no doubt legs and feet.

There are still enough body parts left to probably bring out another couple of books after that!!
 
Hi ya relaxed

Lots of laughter in the Pixie household. Good comment!

Cheers

Dave
 
I have decided that I am going to teach what I am going to call Aromaology as a full time course.

I am just starting to put a course together based on the essence of aromatherapy and its use with Massage, IHM, energy healing, Reiki, colour, Reflex etc. ยฉ 2007
 
I've just received my first ever indian head massage. I have to say, I was expecting great things but was disappointed. First of all I had to lay down face up whcih surprised me. I was on the treatment couch with a towel over me and my shoulders and neck exposed. To do the sides of my head the therapist tipped my head gently while supporting with one hand and massaged each side. Although the treatment was nice, it didn't have the "wow" factor I expected. And it only lasted 25 minutes - I was expecting an hour. And I was charged ยฃ30. Not impressed.
 
Hi ya Jade

Sorry to hear that you didn't enjoy the head massage experience.

Personally I always discuss with my clients options of seated or couch or futon treatments. Did the person you went to have proper qualifications and experience? Did you know that there are also different ways of practising IHM? If you feel you like the idea of head massage, prehaps find another therapist. If you discover that head massage isn't for you, fair enough. It isn't everyones cup of tea, some people like foot reflexology and other people rather stick pins in their eyes. Some clients love Reiki, others think it's a waste of time.

Please don't dismiss this experience, but at the same time IHM for some hasn't got that 'wow' factor.

ยฃ30 sounds a lot of money (depending on where you live of course and where you went for the treatment), I'm sure you could get it cheaper and receive a better treatment. Someone working from home can be often better then a high priced spa or salon. IHM treatments are often 30 to 45 minutes rather than an hour.

Best Wishes

Reiki Pixie
 
Hiya all,
I must disagree with you once again Reiki Dave,

Shirobhanga is infact a SEATED Massages, as is INDIAN HEAD MASSAGE.

I have trained in many massage disciplines, and although I use these skills to add to a treatment that I am giving if I think it warrants it, I try and stick to the main principles of the treatment.

if you look at the pictures in narenda Mehta's book, IHM is performed SEATED.

I agree with many of the above comments, "why book an IHM if what you want is a back massage".

If I went for an IHM treatment and they asked me to either remove my top and cover myself if a towel, or lie on a couch I would walk away. If I book for an IHM I would expect an IHM not a mish-mashed intrepretation of what someone has cobbled together and given it the name IHM.
 
relaxed, healistic and cola, please join me in siberia, and we can given each other an authentic IHM, please bring your own chairs.
 
None of my clients are complaining about my eclectic style of treatment.

They keep coming back and recommend me to others.

Reiki Pixie
 
I was taught to do both seated then finish laying on a couch. You start seated doing the head neck and shoulders then lay the client down to do the face. The clients love it and it is a lovely relaxing way to end the treatment. If I were to do it in an office environment I probably wouldn't use the couch.
 
Calling all IHM newbies. Read this thread it's brilliant, it's like listening at the staff room door to your tutors having a ding-dong.

And Relaxed1 should receive an award for comment #48. Read it from #1 though. It's a long thread but worth it!

Hoorah the therapy tutors of this world!
 
It's the set text for our VTCT Indian Head Massage, which I'm learning at Daventry College!
 
just remember that Indian head massage is a traditional treatment performed with the client seated and fully clothed. Oil can be applied to the scalp.

Shirobhyanga is a seated massage with oils to the upper arms, neck, shoulders and scalp.

Having a massage lying down on the bed is having a massage.
 
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    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  35. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Vicky 22, Philippine mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  36. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Thursday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿค—, Cici ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Sophie ๐Ÿ˜ and Monica ๐Ÿ˜˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  37. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Terrific Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Tiffany, Joey, Julie, Aaliyah, Cici, Coco, Yui, Meghan, Julia & New 34D Jasmineโ€”โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits
  38. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower body scrub Sea Salt Bath๐Ÿ‘every day 3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Nice girl Mia โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 36 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, back walking has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will b
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.on Thursday ,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…beautiful Jessica come back,deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…sunny very good looking,big breasted sweet sensual touch really popular ๐ŸŒนlong hair young beautiful Lucy,friendly smile,back walk,strong to relax oil amazing ending๏ผŒrelief your stress,must try๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜
  42. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Yuki 24, Korean Slim , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  43. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  44. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: JOJO (12pm-9pm): is a busty JAPANESE girl, magnificent DD Cup boobs, short, petite small body, pretty face AV Star, bbbj cim cof rim, special services available. KITTY (12pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beaut
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  47. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  48. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy.
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