Groupon, Buywithme, The local Deal, etc....

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I have been hearing a lot of buzz about http://www.groupon.com. I sent them my infomation only to find out they were interested in doing business with me for many reasons. After doing some digging around I found 2 similar co's in my aera that offer than same type of blast emailing

http://www.thelocaldeal.com
http://www.buywithme.com

When you decide to sign up a merchante you agree to give a 50% off deal, and the co. keeps 50% of what you make and you get a check in the mail for the other half

My first deal of the day went out yesterday. And from just one email it filled my book for the next month
 
Groupon, Buywithme, The local Deal, etc....

That's really interesting. I have a friend who was considering this for an acupuncture clinic, and she's been trying to talk me into doing this, just to get my name out there to other clients who may not know about us. I am not sure I like it, due to the half-off concept.

So, I am curious.... if it went out the one day and filled the book for a month:

  • What kind of hours and days you work? What is a full months booking for you? How many clients per week? How many people did your "groupon" target?

  • What happens if someone wants to book tomorrow on the "groupon" that came out today? Do you still accept it, or is it truly a one day fling?

  • Can you limit how many people can take advaneforum.xxxe of the "groupon"?

  • Do you still have room in your book for your regulars, since you filled up for a month? If not, how will you handle that?

These are all concerns of mine, as I don't want to get into a situation where I don't have room for my regular clients.

Thanks in advance for answering. And, I am happy to recieve a PM, if you don't want to post the answers on open forum. :)
 
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A full week for me is 15 - 18 hours a week. The coupon just sells for one day but the custumer has 3 months to use it.

All of my regulars where already book for the month, so the coupon people just filled in the blank space and I always leave a few places open who need a massage ASAP because they are in pain and can't wait to book
 
Groupon, Buywithme, The local Deal, etc....

Thanks for that. I definitely appreciate the feedback from someone who has used it.

One new question: Does "groupon" limit it to the "three months to use", or did you pick an amount of time?

I know I asked a lot of questions, so you may not have seen these two. Do you, by any chance, have answers to them?

pueppi said:
  • How many people did your "groupon" target?
  • Can you limit how many people can take advaneforum.xxxe of the "groupon"?
 
Groupon, Buywithme, The local Deal, etc....

okay - You give HALF off your regular session price.
Then the company keeps HALF of THAT.

So you are left with doing a month (or three months) of $20 massages???

I think that you should see what kind of re-booking you get before recommending this to others.
Doesn't sound like it would be the type of client that would necessarily be loyal and consistent.
 
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squash_blsm said:
okay - You give HALF off your regular session price.
Then the company keeps HALF of THAT.

So you are left with doing a month (or three months) of $20 massages???

I think that you should see what kind of re-booking you get before recommending this to others.
Doesn't sound like it would be the type of client that would necessarily be loyal and consistent.

All good points. This is why I have asked the questions above.

But, since JLWmassage has already "tried" it, how about we allow her to give the follow up info, to see how it pans out?

Although I am still not sold, I am thinking that it could be something useful for the new therapist starting out and needing some income while working other avenues to build their return clientele, and it may also be useful for someone who only works sporadically and doesn't have a consistent client base.
 
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The way I looked at it is this. I could pay $500 on ads and not even make my money back. Or do the deal of the day where people are paying up front. And if a client does a no call no show they lose their coupon.

I picked the 3 month max w/ a max of 150 coupons to be sold. I am only one person and can handle so much.

The email went out to 1000 people so that is 1000 potential people who saw my name

This extra money that I will make is going to pay for me to take some classes I have been want to take for a long time and never seem to have the extra cash
 
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I know one case where this didn't work well for the massage business - they ended up paying more in IC wages than they received from the hugely discounted coupons. It also wasn't a "repeat business" type of clientele as everyone was just looking for a discounted massage.
 
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JLWmassage said:
The way I looked at it is this. I could pay $500 on ads and not even make my money back. Or do the deal of the day where people are paying up front. And if a client does a no call no show they lose their coupon.

I picked the 3 month max w/ a max of 150 coupons to be sold. I am only one person and can handle so much.

The email went out to 1000 people so that is 1000 potential people who saw my name

This extra money that I will make is going to pay for me to take some classes I have been want to take for a long time and never seem to have the extra cash

That's a good way to look at it.
I would love for you to keep a log to track results.
As you noted you will have some "no-shows" and "no-redeemers" which will bump up your $$.
And - you are doing the work yourself - not paying someone else.
Personally I would rather be doing massage than doing laundry or paperwork anyway...
I am excited for you! Good Luck! :D
 
Groupon, Buywithme, The local Deal, etc....

I work for a salon & spa and they have decided to try the groupon thing out this next week or two. They are selling a $50 gift card for $25 which they can use for any salon or spa service. Since we charge $50 for a 30 min massage, our goal is to add on or upgrade the service (ie. add a paraffin, hot stone upgrade, upgrade to an hour which is $69, etc). I'm not 100% sure how successful it will be, in my experience offering discounts only brings clients in once.. But I'm open to the idea so I am staying positive and I will update more after the groupon goes out!
 
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Jenn@AttunedMotion said:
I work for a salon & spa and they have decided to try the groupon thing out this next week or two. They are selling a $50 gift card for $25 which they can use for any salon or spa service. Since we charge $50 for a 30 min massage, our goal is to add on or upgrade the service (ie. add a paraffin, hot stone upgrade, upgrade to an hour which is $69, etc). I'm not 100% sure how successful it will be, in my experience offering discounts only brings clients in once.. But I'm open to the idea so I am staying positive and I will update more after the groupon goes out!

Will accepting the discounted gift card affect what you (the therapists) are paid for doing the work? I know some ICs that dread coupons or discounts because it affects their % pay.

Our business has looked into a variety of similar programs, but the excessively high discounting usually makes it unworkable for our business model. Some local radio stations also have seasonal deals that include online and limited radio exposure. They sell your product/service at 50% of the regular price and keep 100% of the proceeds. You do the work for free and hope to upsell/rebook them. It's effective for bringing new clients in, but the jury is still out on the client retention part.

One key to effective marketing: track your results. Keep records of what you spent, how many people received the message, and how many people came in for services because of that message. Calculate the gross and net revenues from services provided as a result of that marketing, and see how it compares to your initial investment. It's easier to track print/online ads that require people to physically bring in a coupon or somesuch.

Text marketing concepts get people to sign up to receive text messages, and they have to show the text on their phone at the time of service in order to get the discount. This is easy to track, but the technologies aren't worked out yet. We tried one service that worked great for Verizon and AT&T cell phones, but T-Mobile, Sprint, and some others did not. Even when the Sprint thing was fixed, resellers of Sprint weren't always able to receive the texts. :roll:
 
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If I had other MT's to pay. This would not be for me. BC I am getting $15 for very coupon that is sold
 
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Well down. I'm seeing more of these type of offers in the UK. When I look at the company details they are American companies.
 
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Here's an update. The Local Deal has worked well for me. It has been a month and I have a few clients been repeats and one bought a package and the ones that have seen me have also sent me referals and posted nice things about me on their facebook pages :D
 
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Glad it's working out for you. I was thinking about it reading through these posts but if the session is half off, then they keep half of that, then I give the shop its 40%, I'd get $9.75 per massage. :undecided: Probably works much better for a solo person.
 
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tranquilspirit2006 said:
Glad it's working out for you. I was thinking about it reading through these posts but if the session is half off, then they keep half of that, then I give the shop its 40%, I'd get $9.75 per massage. :undecided: Probably works much better for a solo person.

In your circumstances, I would negotiate with the shop to waive or reduce their 40% for this promotion as they will see an increase in revenue once these clients rebook, buy GCs, etc.
 
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Pete said:
tranquilspirit2006 said:
Glad it's working out for you. I was thinking about it reading through these posts but if the session is half off, then they keep half of that, then I give the shop its 40%, I'd get $9.75 per massage. :undecided: Probably works much better for a solo person.

In your circumstances, I would negotiate with the shop to waive or reduce their 40% for this promotion as they will see an increase in revenue once these clients rebook, buy GCs, etc.


I was also thinking the same thing. If this is something that interests you
 
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Pete said:
tranquilspirit2006 said:
Glad it's working out for you. I was thinking about it reading through these posts but if the session is half off, then they keep half of that, then I give the shop its 40%, I'd get $9.75 per massage. :undecided: Probably works much better for a solo person.

In your circumstances, I would negotiate with the shop to waive or reduce their 40% for this promotion as they will see an increase in revenue once these clients rebook, buy GCs, etc.

Also, not sure what kind of "shop" you're in - if it's just massage or a full-service spa/salon or something in between - but this is something the shop owner can do for the entire shop and then EVERYONE gets promoted. Not sure if that would work in your environment specifically, but it's a thought.
 
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I know the owner of a massage business who used Groupon recently - shortly before Mother's Day. They sold over 1300 massage coupons at 1/2 off their regular rate. That's a TON of massages and a lot of potential new business... and their phone has been swamped with people wanting to redeem those coupons. They will make very little for the next few weeks, and are hoping to convert a decent perceneforum.xxxe of the newbies into regular clients.

I look forward to learning more about how this Groupon promotion worked for that massage business. The concept is simple, but making it work financially seems to be a challenge. If this business had a higher profit margin, it would be a more attractive form of promotion.
 
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    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  35. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple😘 - Brand new girl from Taiwan just ar
  36. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Monica ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Wendy ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,🏠 address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  37. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lucky, Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👄👄🦵🦵👅👅🈵🈵
  38. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Ivy ❤️ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivy’s good looks
  39. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ SANA, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  40. KSpa:
    SATURDAY at 𝐊 𝐒𝐏𝐀: CICI, HELEN, YOYO & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟵𝟮-𝟳𝟱𝟲𝟴 ☎️ CICI is a slim 110 Lbs & pretty 23 years “Must Try” honey, with all menus available. HELEN stands 5’3” & weighs 110 Lbs, with nice 34D pillows to comfort you. YOYO is JAPANESE, 21 Yrs, 5’2” & 115 Lbs, with a nice big ass & great service.
  41. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at Sugar Love Spa: Eva, Lily, Sunny & Tiffany. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 437-365-2688 ☎ EVA is a NEW beautiful White/Asian mix girl, 5’1”, 36C, very friendly, sexy and interesting. LILY is NEW TODAY. SUNNY is NEW TODAY. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little booty
  42. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 AAVI, SARIKA, PAYAL PEARL, NINA, MALIYA, NISHA, NIMRAT, MONIKA, KIRAN 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  43. Dreaminn:
    SATURDAY at 💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: AMY, ELSA, EVA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ AMY is a sweet and friendly Chinese vixen, 158Cms, 115Lbs, with C Cups, very excitable and fun. ELSA is slim, petite & very pretty student, early 20’s about 5’2” and 105 Lbs. Elsa has an innocent look about her, but she can drive you wild with pleasure
  44. Birchmount&14th:
    SATURDAY at 𝐁𝐈𝐑𝐂𝐇𝐌𝐎𝐔𝐍𝐓 & 𝟏𝟒𝐭𝐡: JESSIE & *SK𝗬𝗟𝗔𝗥* Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. ☎️ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟵𝟳-𝟲𝟯𝟳𝟰 ☎️ 𝗝𝗘𝗦𝗦𝗜𝗘 is a slim and very sexy Asian girl with skills of the highest degree. *𝗦𝗞𝗬𝗟𝗔𝗥* has returned on Saturdays! She is a superstar & very well known for her skills.😃 We are open 24 Hours daily. We have clean rooms & free parking
  45. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: SUMMER & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5’6” & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy.
  46. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at 🍏💚𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔💚🍏: HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  47. ASPA:
    SATUR𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Jenny and best massage Rachel. 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36C’s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  48. Peony Garden Spa:
    🌸3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY 🌸 NEW GIRL ASHIA: A VERY YOUNG AND SLIM INDIAN GIRL, EARLY 20'S, 5'2 IN HEIGHT, LIGHT CARAMEL SKIN AND CAN SPEAK PUNJABI, HINDI AND ENGLISH FLUENTLY 🌸 MOON: A YOUNG SLIM VIETNAMESE STUDENT W/ A HELL OF A BODY AND VERY OPEN 🌸 JENNY: A SLIM AND TALL KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN 🌸 PEONY GARDEN SPA 🌸 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 🌸 (416) 335-6093 🌸
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa ♨️♨️♨️ table shower body scrub 👍👍👍We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely big boobs Tiffany 😜😜😜and Angela Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici🤗🤗🤗🤗5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call ☎️416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Yoyo 30 years old open mind with 36DD and young sweet student Sophia, pretty Ella and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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