Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

I would suggest forgetting the tantric side of things, for a very good reason, males are very visual and tactile creatures, they don't want some chick huffing and puffing & not letting them be touched, and telling them how to breathe & being told it's not about the orgasm... With males it's ALL about the orgasm.
But if can learn proper SM then it's another string for your bow.
Good luck with it.
ps: have you ever had a genuine SM?
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

What I am thinking of doing, is learning the art of (tantric and sensual) massage, then offer a R&T/Tantric/SM type booking, as well as continue my full service bookings etc.. What do you think?[/QUOTE]

I worked in Sensaul erotic massage before finding my home at FUNHOUSE. I find it works in beautifully in Fullservice bookings at times. Body slides and some light, feathery stokes in important erroginous areas can be a lovely way to get the heart racing. Would recommend using Rice-bran oil as opposed to baby oil though. Its Much better for the skin and you caln add other essential oils like Lavender to enhance the experience. It is also great for your body confindence!!!

Alot of the clients I met whilst doing SM said that if they where Married, they did not experience the same guilt issues with SM as they did with FS. In their mind... they can put it in a wee box that allows them to process it as a 'massage'... thus its not cheating for them.... Go figure
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

That has nothing to do with it, for me at least, I have seen a few ladies that offer FS as well as SM. When done correctly a SM can be an incredibly intense sexual experience, it's the anticipation/build up and subsequent release that is the main attraction.. for me at least.



I get an R&T because I have an itch that needs scratching :) there are exceptions of course



Yep.... like I said I dont not do FS for personal reasons, not because I think the lady has somehow been 'spoiled'. How ever in my experience FS ladies give pretty awful sensual massages



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Just as an aside there is a big difference between a sensual massage and a R&T, and the FS girls I have seen that offer massages are generally more the latter



A good tantric massage without all the spiritual/non release stuff can be amazing. Agree that it, just like any other massage, dosent work without a mutual physical connection and touching
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

ONE: Is the attraction to a R&T the fact the lady (usually) isn't involved in full service, or something else?


I have a need for really substantial effort to get off so a hand job done well is my perfect sexual relaxation.


TWO: Do you participate in a R&T as a way of satisfying your want/need for intimacy/companionship/an orgasm/etc etc, without being involved in full service, or another reason?


For me same answer as question1.


THREE: If a full service working lady were to also offer a R&T service, at a lower rate than her full service rate, would you consider her also?


Yes, and I have had full service ladies before the whole R&T business wound up to high gear do that for me anyway at their regular rates.


FOUR: If not, is that because she participates in full service, or because you'd be tempted to try her full service, or something else?


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Does this help? You can R&T me anytime.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

Plenty of the girls will do it for girls. You should book with one who says they are bi and go for it. Oh and ask around, there's one client who gives great massages and you can learn Reviewom him LOL Book me, book me :-) Oh and if you PM me and tell me what you like in a girl I can recommend a couple of great gals to try.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

Hey elevate, nice reply BTW, but isn't that the whole idea of a tantric massage, to connect each other spiritually, and not to focus on the orgasm?
A massive part of tantric is breathing, without it there is nothing. You have to learn to control your breathing so you can ultimately have an orgasm without ejaculation, which goes totally against the male thinking.
Anyway that's another subject.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

Tantra has a real place, its a great thing to explore, for your own personal sexual journey or as a couple, it has great sexual healing, for those women who have been abused or who have sexual hangups for one reason or another. For men, its great for erection dysfunction for all types of reasons, mainly prostrate cancer recovery, when you remove the orgaism, and focus is on your entire body just being touched softly gently in a intimate enviroment the pressure of having to have an orgasm is removed and you just explore the pleasure of touch, it is truly lovely. you can then move on and learn breathing techniques to help control and strengthen or heighten or orgasm, and then you have goddess worshipping ect ect...its all very deep, and possibly a wee bit more then someone just wanting to pay for services for a short period of time. The best senual massage girls, incorporate a little bit of tantra, by using touch, oils and enviroment, they use your sexual energy, they use good swedish style massage to help you relax, done right, it is a very erotic experience, you should leave feeling invigorated pampered and your entire body destressed. And thats the key, sensual massage is about your entire body, you get touched everywhere, and sensual massage therapist will touch and arouse you in places you didnt know existed. Its intimate in a raw sense, in a natural process, rather then a relationship type of intimacy. the power of touch is highly undervalued, and when you use touch in a sensual setting it is a powerful enlightening experience.....
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

personally I would in future only go for RnT/SM over FS.
Tried FS and I am no good at it and consider it a waste of money :(
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

Maybe if no action mpter twenty five minute they can hand off to the resident expert and blow in his ear / neck / elbow
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

I am in the same boat as you, the only satisfaction I get Reviewom FS is yah I had a shag.
A big part of the problem I guess is in my head, (the one on my shoulders) as I get too focused and have a hair trigger, so in all reality I only need 5 minutes, and that includes getting undressed.
But with SM, even with a new girl, she more often than not, has to crank my handle for ages.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

I do not enjoy a R&T. The rub is great, but I can not just lie there (for the Tug) while someone does all the work.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

The most erotic experiences in my life have been with a "Rub and Tug" girl. That has been intimated before in this thread and it was Jade, formerly of TR. The pleasure of just lying there, whilst an absolutely gorgeous girl gets off on you, plus your inevitable climax is beyond compare.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

Yep it is and it's important to keep aspects of that. I don't mind the whole breathing thing, infact it can be very arousing. I was more talking about the staring at each other and reciting a mantra etc.

Just saying in my personal experience, a tantric style massage with mutual touching and relief can be amazing (To be fair I have had more duds then successes, however you cant really go wrong with anyone who trained at the blue lotus )

I don't know if you ever saw Amber but she did an incredible tantra style massage which easily sits in my top 2 in terms of sexually intense experiences.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

i need to be involved in me service, just lying backa nd relaxing just ends up with me being really relaxed and sleeping, and i have not been finished via the Tug as the result for a long long time. Tantric is fine but all it does is make me sleepy. Been kicked out once not getting hard and/or implied i was gay hahahaa.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

Really? All the tantra massages I've had have been hands off below the waist. And to tell you the truth, with a cpl of the 'goddesses' that was as far as I wanted my hands to go if u get my drift.
No never seen her or been to Blue Lotus. Only been to the disbanded o 8 00 tantra, harmony, and the tantra club place.
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

1, The attraction for me is the sensual soft touch, and can vary a lot between girls.
2,I participate for the erotic sexual feeling I get during the massage, yes I get my needs satisfied by a hot woman which adds to the experience.
3,FS or RnT yes either one if the massage is up to standard. Have had a few RnT's where there is Daty allowed, and a couple of times the massage has ended in FS.
4,In my experience in the many RnT's I have had and a couple of FS bookings. The best outcome would be a real GFE (erotic RnT with a FS ending).
 
Full Service vs. Rub & Tug

ONE: R&T for me is about passively lying back and enjoying being pampered. I enjoy a good massage - and any teasing is nice too. An orgasm at the end isn't my main goal, but it is a very nice way to finish.

TWO: I've never done full service, but R&T seems okay. I probably stick to R&T because I guess part of me wants to reserve sex for those I care about. That said, am single now and always tempted.

THREE: Have visited one FS girl who offered R&T at a lower rate. Really enjoyed it (She was pretty decent at massage). Wasn't tempted to 'upgrade' to FS though.

FOUR: (redundant question as I have seen someone who offered FS purely for R&T)

I'm actually happiest getting a massage Reviewom someone who is very good at massage and offers HR as an extra at the end. I'm not fussy about looks and I don't really want to touch, preferring to remain passive.
Think I'm perhaps too concerned about intruding on someone else's boundaries. I do love to touch, but don't want to go somewhere I'm not wanted.
 
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  35. Spa in Markham:
  36. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  37. Pink Flower Spa:
  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  39. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approa
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New โ—๏ธ New girl Anna dainty and cute! Sexy body Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of p
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience ๐Ÿ˜ปvery popular girl,more experience,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธIsabella Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  44. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: ASHLEY (12pm-9pm) is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural C Cup, pink nipples, baby face & voice, can accomodate bbbj cim cof rim dfk, excellent services. CLOUDIA (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs
  45. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIMI, JENNY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services.
  48. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธXukaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Mia 25โ€™s with curve body and young Taiwanese Victoria slime 25โ€™s open mind, young sexy Sophia with curve body 30โ€™s and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 11 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ANGEL, SONIA, PRIYA, AMANDA, PAOLA, PREETI, KIRAN, ANGELINA, MONIKA, SALMA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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