Forearm Dance Video

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I saw a new video today (new to me at least) by Val Guin titled Forearm Dance. It's on techniques using your forearms. It looks really intriguing but it's also $75. If anyone has seen this video, I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Thanks!
Angie
 


Damn!! All the forearm techniques I am teaching myself....

I could sell a video too!! And charge less than $75!!

Christine
 


Val Guin is a teacher at my school (IPSB - Culver City, CA)... I can ask around about the video, though I dunno if I'll get the most unbiased of opinions :)

I have overheard many great things about Val's work through other students, though it'll be some time before I can really start attending classes with her (yay finances).


In the meantime, I think one of the massage supply stores around here actually rents out videos, I'll see if I can get my mitts on it :D

Edit: Here's what I've been able to dig up on google:

http://www.massage-tools.com/forearm-dance-massage-video-dvd.html
...that might just be what it says on the back of the video, not sure :?
 


http://www.atpeacemedia.com/pages/BODYWORKForearmDance.html has video samples looks a lot like temple style lomi lomi to me, probably with it's own subtleties added and a lot of temple style subtleties lost.
 


Yeah, it looks like it has borrowed pretty extensively from temple style lomi lomi, not a bad thing but perhaps that should be acknowledged in the promotional material rather than saying it was "created" by val.
Really, we should all be creative with the way we work, building and developing new movements from the basics we have learned.
 
forearm dance video...

I just purchased rhe Forearm dance video and I have some thoughts to share... First, I think its one of the most beautiful, professionally made videos out there. It has great instructional segments, A teachr/student portion and a full body routine done to music and done w/ stroke descriptions. The quality Val and her production team left no corners unturned as even the model on her table has "sticky tape" secureing the drape so no sneak peeks happen during the routine demo...lol. As one of the menu choces, it even has a behind the scenes look at how the video was made and alot of interveiws w/ the cast ( her daugther was the producer of the video) , a different view of most massage videos. and finally, she explains her technique with thorough descriptions......Now secondly......I feel she doesnt do justice for all the Lomi Lomi Practitioners out there who cherish Lomi and take it to heart when therapists dis- respect the work. Only twice, was Lomi mentioned, one from another therapist describing the Forearm Dance and the other from Val herself....in a seforum.xxxed interview setting and she only refered to the Kahuna from Hawaii as a guest instructor at her school. She claims to have developed this style of massage, but if you've ever taken Tom Cochrans Lomi course, or have seen Carrie Rowell's Lomi video, Val has used strokes, techniques, and terminology from these two other actual Lomi instructors. As a Lomi practitioner and instructor, I feel a little at a loss. She even has the nerve to call her production company "Ohana Productions"!! I'm interested to see where she'll take this, maybe she'll get another vision and create another form of massage that the practitioner uses foot presses and yoga stretches and call it .."The foot press and Yoga stretch dance"... :roll:
 


I enjoyed watching the video. It has a professional quality and I do enjoy her voice. However, I have been in the business for over 14yrs and whenever I feel a little bored I ask the universe for a new approach. Funny thing, I justed started to do this type of massage in the last couple of days. I have never seen Lomi Lomi or the Forearm Dance but I can honestly say, I am making the same moves. Now, I am not bragging but if you love what you do, you are somewhat creative and open to the spirit of massage and healing, all you have to do is ask and you shall receive! Honestly, having a basic understanding of Swedish really is the basis for all types of massage. Just open up and play. Massage is yoga, dance, tai chi, etc all rolled up !
 


You know around here (tx panhandle) swedish is the bottom rung on the totom pole!!! Everyone whats someone how knows something besides how to rub lotion on!!! anyways....I off topic but what is Lomi Lomi?

I have seen the video adverticed about the forarm dance but....money just aint there. thanks for the reviews tho... I think i will find one on lomi lomi instead!!! maybe i can find one in my price range!!! ($20 ok wishful thinking lol)
 


Swedish massage

โ€“noun a massage employing techniques of manipulation and muscular exercise systematized in Sweden in the 19th century.


Lomi Lomi
The Hawaiian people view all aspects of the body as one and believe that the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual are all part of the "whole self".

Thus the intent of lomi-lomi is to free energy flow by releasing stress and tension in the body and restore balance and harmony to mind, body and spirit by working deeply through these levels.

When a lomi-lomi practitioner touches your body, it is with total respect, non-judgment, compassion and love.
 


Seattlesunshine said:
Swedish massage

โ€“noun a massage employing techniques of manipulation and muscular exercise systematized in Sweden in the 19th century.

The definition appears to be outdated.

Lomi Lomi
The Hawaiian people view all aspects of the body as one and believe that the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual are all part of the "whole self".

What a beautiful view.

Thus the intent of lomi-lomi is to free energy flow by releasing stress and tension in the body and restore balance and harmony to mind, body and spirit by working deeply through these levels.

When a lomi-lomi practitioner touches your body, it is with total respect, non-judgment, compassion and love.

I believe the intent of any person doing any form of massage/bodywork is to do it with respect, non judgement, compassion and love.
 


I agree. I treat my cleints like i would want to be treated and nothing less!!! Thanks for explaning lomi lomi!!! I know about the swedish massage because I am a swedish massage therapist, a Reiki master and a certified medical massage therapist who would love to get into other modalities of massage just because I think the more i know the more help i can be to cleints and myself!!! :D the only thing is here there are not a lot of opptions and the opptions we have are mostly swedish techneics under a different name. so....I have clients who have been to other therapist that have gone to a deep tissue class, and the cleint tells me they want deep tissue and they expect bruse and pain and no nothing about deep tissue work. its a mess!!! and it makes me angry!!! so i try to know as much as i can about the modalities out there so when a cleint gets off my table they dont go to someone else and they understand the modaltiy and know why i choise to do that one. :lol:
 


I know this is reviving an old thread . . . but I must admit that I have gained a lot of information in watching Val Guin's "Forearm Dance" -- yes, I had already been applying some of the same things from my creative side -- but her DVD introduces some new concepts that really work!

And as far as not giving LomiLomi the credit -- this has only made me want to pursue LomiLomi even more!

It is a beautiful video --as mentioned above -- and has made me rethink the use of my forearms and elbows. The differences are amazing! I found it well worth the $75.00 and the more I review it, the more I learn!

Just my two cents!

Sherry
 


I watched the clips of the video on the website and I'm intrigued. Unfortunately my price limit is around $40.00 . :(

Looks like a cool modality though, more on the relaxation side though. I think she goes a little too fast to go deep.

Jason
 


You think they have this dvd at netflix?? I have to check... we have a sub to netflix.
 


I don't think Netflix has any massage technique DVD's, but if you find out differently Greattlakes, please let us know!
 


Actually, Jason, even though the DVD is incredibly relaxing to watch -- not only massage by the ocean, but Val Guin herself is so incredibly smooth in her movements that it does seem like a "dance" -- I have found I can go far more deeply into the tissue with her methods. I am quite petite and have found them invaluable for both larger female clients and male clients. And it saves an amazing amount of wear and tear on the fingers and thumbs!

As I said, this has actually made me want to pursue some LomiLomi DVDs (they aren't cheap either, I know!) -- can anyone suggest what they consider the best LomiLomi DVDs out there?

TIA! Sherry
 


I've only seen the clips on the website, not the whole video, but I am very familiar with temple style lomi lomi - it may look relaxing, and it is very relaxing (rhythmic motions, long smooth strokes, large areas covered in the one move, not very specific work from when you look at it) the client does melt into the table, but it is done with the forearm - there is a big bone, it can be pretty firm, plus even though it may not look very muscle specific, it can be. It can get VERY deep when you add a bit more pressure with the forearm, or move onto the elbow, but the client is soooooo relaxed from the long flowing rhythmic strokes they let you do deeper work without even realising it.

It may look like a fluff and buff relaxation style massage, and it can be done that way, but it can easily do sooooooooooo much more.
 


Sherry Dudik said:
As I said, this has actually made me want to pursue some LomiLomi DVDs (they aren't cheap either, I know!) -- can anyone suggest what they consider the best LomiLomi DVDs out there?
I'd suggest go do a class, you really really really need to be receiving temple style lomi lomi to be able to grasp its full potential.
 


Netflix does not rent this or any other massage video that I could see.

Who's gonna start a massage video renting program????
 


For anyone in the Los Angeles/OC area, Bodywork Emporium (http://www.bodywork-emporium.com) has vhs/dvd rentals of some of the titles that they carry. At least, they did the last time I checked... :)
Renting sure beats paying $70 on a video you're not sure about. :?
 
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    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, & Ruby, *nicole tracy cindy RUBY is new today. Details to follow... Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  26. Flowers Spa:
    โœฐ BLUEXADO SPA โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6 Vaughan ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI | SHERRY a HongKong woman, is of average height and build, with very smooth skin. She is gorgeous and friendly. ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH | LINDA a 21-year-old Vietnamese, offers comfortable and professional full-body treatments. ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ HANNA Vietnamese good, energetic medium body; also does lighter treatments with emphasis on service. โœฐ BLUEXADO SPA โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ
  27. PB888:
    fantasy spa
  28. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธMALIYA, ASHA, NINA, PAOLA, ANGEL, AAVI, PAYAL PEARL, SANA, KIRAN๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  29. do you need a customer:
    I wander what will happen when imagination come in the spa for a wellness check curious if anyone still there or on the deportation bus
  30. do you need a customer:
    Never tell a place the truth they block you so they can continue with the fake people
  31. do you need a customer:
    Only gee has limited English all they no is tips
  32. do you need a customer:
    Pictures are fake they do not look like that
  33. do you need a customer:
    If your looking for more then the dirty whores try elsewhere, but if your into that bee is there heavily used
  34. do you need a customer:
    All the gifts you need to take home too
  35. do you need a customer:
    Cheap brothal
  36. do you need a customer:
    If your a 10 min full service guy go see bee ,ada amd lucky
  37. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699 Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl Tina๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility CiCi- Exotic beauty with great service...
  38. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ SANA, SARIKA, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
  40. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  41. Golden Flower Spa:
    โœฐ 905.258.0777 โœฐ 8380 Kennedy Rd Unit #C6, Unionville Markham ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Misa (New) 19Yrs Vietnamese beautiful pretty face, long black hair ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต Tracy (New) 22Yrs, petite Japanese, young & pretty face ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ญ Monica (New) Colombian | Thailand, beautiful & shapely ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ Sonia | Aniy from India is young & curvy, very pretty, lightly toned...After 9PM ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Mimi | Candy (New) 19Yrs Vietnamese beautiful face, very friendly โœฐ GOLDEN FLOWER SPA โœฐ 905.258.0777 โœฐ
  42. KSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: HELEN, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HELEN is a pretty Chinese babe, 24, 5โ€™3โ€ & 115 Lbs, can provide good services. SUKI is 23, 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body. CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5โ€™3โ€ sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Mia and Jenny Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  44. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New jap girl Tina๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility CiCi- Exotic beauty with great service...
  45. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Michelle,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Sonia,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  46. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cici , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  47. Birchmount&14th:
    FRIDAY at ๐๐ˆ๐‘๐‚๐‡๐Œ๐Ž๐”๐๐“ & ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’๐ญ๐ก: SUMMER & YUKI. Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž๏ธ SUMMER is a beautiful, tall, and very versatile Thai lady. ๐—ฌ๐—จ๐—ž๐—œ is here today to provide an amazing professional massage. We are open 24 Hours daily. We have clean rooms and plenty of free parking. LEONA and FRIENDS Birchmount Rd & 14th
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at Sugar Love Spa: Tiffany & Zoey. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž 437-365-2688 โ˜Ž TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey, and can drive you wild. ZOEY is a Euro/Cabibbean mix beauty, 36C with a slim waist & nice bum. Zoey has excellent mouth skills and amazing cfs finish.
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yoyo ๐Ÿ˜is beautiful tall sexy student. She has nice bum and very good massage and has great playful service. Such a beautiful sexy smile. She knows how too please you with her slim sexy body and bring joy and happiness๐Ÿ˜Real pictures of Y
  50. SunriseRH:
    FRIDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: MIA, MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ MIA is a young Vietnamese beauty with the looks and the skills. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€
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