first-appt discount...

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Hi!

I'm an RMT from north of Dallas, TX, and I just joined this board. (What a great board, btw! LOTS of interesting info, and well-categorized!) I've been an RMT for a year and a half now. I massage part time (12-18 hrs/wk, though some weeks can be 20+, depending on business). My practice is split between my home studio and the clinic of the MT school I went to.

Anyway, I thought I'd pick everyone's brain. I don't charge less for someone's first appt. To me, I think it encourages the "shopping around" mentality, and almost discourages repeat business. For those of you who ALSO hate first-time discounts, I'd like to know your reasons, just out of curiosity.

Thanks!

Cheers,
--Jyoti
 


I don't care for them either, and have never used them. I am looking for clients who value a good massage, not a cheap(er) massage. Same reasons as you, Jyoti. And you know what?........I read the massage ads in my local weekly paper every week, just to keep up on what is going on, and however silly it seems, I just would never go to the cheapest deal out there.....they must not be "good", and I should know that what a therapist is charging, really has nothing to do with their experience, qualifications, and skills, but the cheap, $35 introductory massage make me want to look elsewhere. Kind of like getting a quote for getting your car or house fixed, and taking the middle one.

Personally, with my business, I prefer to reward repeat clients. And, as a consumer and client, I would probably be ticked off to learn that my therapist could afford to be giving $10 discounts around town. I also think that it devalues our work a little, to be offering discounts. I prefer to be associated with the medical profession, than with the local shopping mall.

Noel
 
First appt. discount

Happy Holidaze!
I am also of the opinion that a first appt. should not be discounted. If you are doing therapeutic massage on someone, the first visit involves history taking, posture eval, etc. Many docs, Pt, etc. charge extra for the first visit as it is longer and more involved.
I have only given discounts lately to those who purchase packages of 5 or 10 sessions. It was worked very well and clients like the fact that there is no transaction after their massage, they can just rebook and wander off.
There is sales research out there that states that when giving discounts the customer is not loyal, only looking for the next discount.
My 2 cents,
rubmyster
 


I have built my business on discounting the first visit as well as giving referal credits. It gives people extra incentive to try something or someone new. Yes I get people shopping around but I also get the serious ones too. What is so bad about shopping around? Perhaps someone is getting massage from someone else in town and they see my coupon and take me up on it. Perhaps they will like my work better than the other place they were going. Then there are the newbies to massage. They really need a good reason to come in. I cant tell you how many of my clients never had massage before they came in with a coupon. It is a free market. They may come in because of the coupon, but they stay with me because of my personality, friendliness, and massage work.

My new client special is just that, for new clients only and it is stated clearly on the coupon. Massage costs a chunk of money and many people arent willing to take a chance on something or someone they are not sure about.
 


I have had a couple of clients that came to their first appointment with a coupon/discount, since that first session they have NEVER paid full price. They waited until another coupon or discount went out to book another appointment.

That taught me a valuable lesson, now I only send coupons out to my clients on their birthdays, and I sent out a client appreciation coupon with my Christmas cards.

I now offer a maintenance program to my regulars for their monthly or weekly business. I've had more positive feedback and results on this than any discounts or coupons I've offered in the past.
 


I do not offer coupons freely to regular clients. I do offer packages at a discount to my regulars. If I gift a client, I do not want it to affect my bottom line. I would rather tack on an extra 10 or 15 minutes than give them a discount. I have seen clients decide they like longer sessions and they make the switch from an hour to 90 minutes because I upgraded them.

In November, I did an off site paraffin dip. I charged $5 for the dip and gave my current clients a coupon for $5 off their next visit in my office for any service over. $30. I had sent a mailing out to all my clients. I sent out about 200 postcards and had 8 clients come in from it. I also dipped about 6 others who were friends of my clients or customers in the store I did the dipping.
 


Dragonflies said:
I have had a couple of clients that came to their first appointment with a coupon/discount, since that first session they have NEVER paid full price. They waited until another coupon or discount went out to book another appointment.

That taught me a valuable lesson, now I only send coupons out to my clients on their birthdays, and I sent out a client appreciation coupon with my Christmas cards.

I now offer a maintenance program to my regulars for their monthly or weekly business. I've had more positive feedback and results on this than any discounts or coupons I've offered in the past.

This is very similar to my experiences. Discounts seem to just bring in those that value the discount more than the massage. Not the type of clients I want to bring in.

The maintenance plans work great for me and my business. I feel it gives you a steadier clientel - therefore, a steadier income. I rarely experience a slup.

Like Christine - I would rather offer additional time than a monetary discount. Many times it does lead to the client booking a longer session on a regular basis.
 


I do think Great Lakes brings up a good point.......there are a lot of people out there that value a good massage, but don't have a regular therapist, and also don't want to risk their 50 bucks on a mediocre massage. I have certainly been in that position, and instead of going to someone I didn't know.........I didn't go anywhere.

If/When I find myself advertising again, I will seriously consider having a money-back-guarantee.

Noel
 


I dont just put this in any advertising I do. I put it on my biz card and in all my literature. In bold letters right on the front page. I write my own brochures and newsletters, so it is easy to do.

I highly recommend naming your website yourcitymassage.com OR having it in addition to a website named directly for your business. I scooped up the dot net domain as well.
 


I have rarely used any type of discounts in my practice, however, this year we are starting something new, because we are shifting the focus of our practice (we're multi-diciplined and hoping to shift to more like 90% massage); mainly because we have a bit of time to test it out.

We are mailing two gift certificates for "1/2 off the first massage at our office", along with a "Welcome to the Practice" letter for each new client that comes in. The idea is that if someone comes to us, it is almost always by referral. What better way for this new client to refer another person to us, than to provide them with a GC in hand?

I think it makes a lot of sense to give people the chance to try you out, and see what they think.

I like what GreatLakes said about building the business off this and it seems like it is worth the consideration. I also like the idea of "perks" for old clients to be an "additional" amount of time, rather than a discount on what they get.

Lastly, I have never used maintenance plans or packages, though I see that they work for a lot of people. I don't think there is anything wrong with those, just that for my particular set-up they haven't found a place yet.

More thoughts from all, please! :)
 


Right now I do offer a discount for first visits: 1 hour for $35 (price of a half hour). I opened my practice in October and this promotion has been very helpful in getting clients, many of whom never experienced massage. When I get to the point where my schedule is full, I may not have to continue this offer but right now I'm building up my practice and its been helpful. One woman who saw my ad in the community paper has become a regular and she's already referred 4 people thus far.

I absolutely understand the concept of not devaluing our work but I agree with Great Lakes in that it is less of a financial risk for those unsure people. Also my offer is only good on the first visit (I believe my rates are average for the area). After that its regular pricing unless they sign up for the maintenance plan.

Regardless of how we get folks in, we need to provide a good reason to continue with us and that comes down to OUTSTANDING CUSTOMER SERVICE! :mrgreen:
 


You might think about varying your approach depending on how much you need clients. A more mature business, with a decent amount of clients, probably does not need to offer first time discounts. Their time is worth more to them.

But a new business wih few clients may be more willing to trade their time as an advertising expense to grow their business quicker.

I personally think it is best to develop a unique business advaneforum.xxxe, that is not price based, that is very alluring to a target market of clients.
 
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    ๐ŸŒธ We have 8 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, LUCY, AMANDA, NISHA, SANA, AAVI, MAY ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  29. Sparkling Spa:
    CHINESE NEW GIRL and JAPANESE CHANEL 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!!๐Ÿ“ฃ๐Ÿ“ฃ ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’ง๐Ÿ’ง! SPA LINE 905-604-8186!!
  30. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ HANA, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  31. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on wednesday๏ผš New Polish gir sasa ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹angel- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility CiCi- Exotic beauty with great service and...
  32. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘every day 3 girls ๐ŸŒนnew girl BoBo big boobs so sexy baby very good service ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Cici ๐Ÿ‘so good table shower,Jenny so good deep tissue massage 5124 St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817 3366
  33. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl maki
  34. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฅฐ
  35. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julie ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  36. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new sweet Mia 25 years old and young cute Angela with curve body, pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  37. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mia๐Ÿ˜ beautiful young Singapore girl. Mia has a very sexy body, and beautiful busty boobs and golden blonde hair. She can give a very good teasing and relaxing massage with a sensual great playful HAPPY service. So very sexy beautiful gir
  38. Dreaminn:
    WEDNESDAY at๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: ANGELA, TINA & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ ANGELA * NEW Today! . TINA * Also NEW Today! is a Vietnamese girl with long black hair, slim with nice curves. New to Canada, & speaks English well. Come and welcome her. VIVI is a very
  39. Birchmount&14th:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐‹๐„๐Ž๐๐€ & ๐…๐‘๐ˆ๐„๐๐ƒ๐’: JESSIE & YUKI. Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐ โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐—๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—˜ is a slim and very sexy Asian girl with skills of the highest degree. ๐—ฌ๐—จ๐—ž๐—œ, so sweet, so sexy, and can blow your mind. ๐—ฆ๐—ž๐—ฌ๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—ฅ is returning Saturday!
  40. SunriseRH:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: LULU, MICHELLE & SUMMER. Also NEW Girl Lulu after 2pm. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ2 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ JENNY: A TALL AND SLIM KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN ๐ŸŒธ EMILY: A PETITE YOUNG AND CURVY THAI MIXED GIRL THAT IS FRIENDLY, SPEAKS FLUENT ENGLISH AND IS NOT TIP HUNGRY ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
  42. NewOriental:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. VIVIAN is a pretty and very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5โ€™7โ€ tall, with a slim figure. Vivian is very friendly and versatile.
  43. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am,New First Day Young Slim Vietnamese Lina, Young Slim Sexy Thai Girl Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki,Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  44. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage and..
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธCindy, Kelly & Kiki. Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Kelly is slim and attractive with very slight curves, all natural coconuts, a nice bum, and rockinโ€™ services.
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  47. Sparkling Spa:
    ๐Ÿ“ฃ๐Ÿ“ฃMORNING WOOD? WE CAN FIX THAT!! WITH CHINESE NEW GIRL and SERVICE QUEEN JENNIFER! 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!!๐Ÿ“ฃ๐Ÿ“ฃ ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’ง๐Ÿ’ง! SPA LINE 905-604-8186!!
  48. bumika.vashi:
    (((เค†เคชเค•เฅ‹ เคฌเคฟเคจเคพ เคจเคพเคŸเค• เคฏเคพ เคจเค–เคฐเฅ‡ เค•เคฐเคจเฅ‡ เคตเคพเคฒเคพ เคธเคฐเฅเคตเคฟเคธ เคšเคพเคนเฅ‡ เคคเฅ‹เคน เคฏเคพเคฆ เค•เคฐเคจเคพ. ))) :oops:If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. :oops: Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not fo
  49. Langbrief:
    Mississauga spa
  50. peter123456789:
    Akira
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