face cradle covers

[PCTAF]

I hate spending money (what can I say, im  tight!! lol) and i have been reasearching the cost of the covers. yikes! i came up with a FAB money saving plan. i contacted a high school instructor, told her i had the material, but not the elastic. she said her students could take one of my exsisting covers, take it apart, and make as many as i needed for $1.00 each. they will get credit for a home econimocs project, and i will get more face cradle covers than i will probably need..lol just thought id pass along this tip, dont mean to step on anyones toes that may be selling them!

 

[lilly of the valley]

face cradle covers

Bravo!!! What a great idea! gi

 

[Toxicpanduh #2]

Hi, It depends, is it one of mine? jUst kidding. you have to realize though. The people that make those are selling them in the trust that they won't be taken apart and copied. The ones I make are my design,I am  sure that most of the designs are the same, but I took alot of time to make sure of the fit and stuff. So you need to think of the people that you are buying them from and how fair is it to them to copy their stuff. We can't get copyrights on these because there are so many out there. Even if it is our design.I looked into it. We just have to trust that the people buying them won't abuse that trust. It would be like someone buying a massage, and you doing a certain tecnique  that is all your own, and them going to someone esle and saying "Hey you need to copy this tecnique so that i can come to you." It isn't fair. I understand  that you are trying to save money, but at who's expense? I think it is wrong, but that is my opinion, and I am one of those people who make the headrest covers. I am not trying to make anyone mad, I just wanted you to see it from our side. I take great pride in my items, and it upsets me to know that people do that. I think it is wrong. Sorry. that is my 2 cents.

 

[Tigger]

Jen, I understand your position, I think Bodyworkers does too, if you read your last line, if she doesn't mindme mentioning it.But this is about KIDSWhat pleased me was the idea of the classroom assignment. This teacher is interested in giving her kids the opportunity to be a part of the system. Don't you think they'll be excited, and do the best job they can? She's teaching them how to use their talent and interest to contribute to the world around them, and become self sufficient. I can guess your next comment, "Well, she should be teaching them about copyrights, too."If so, my response to that is "Not at this level."Copyrights is an important issue, I don't mean to make light of it. I'm a designer as well, and I know why you weren't able to get a copyright. Number 1: you didn't design the cradle. Number 2: you didn't design the concept of the cover.    This is owned by the original designer. Number 3: your original design was not different enough by perceneforum.xxxe to the design created by the copyright owner.Copyrights have become an inflamed issue, mainly because of the Internet. I see it in every forum, whether it be beading...crocheting!...quilting...Now Grannie is afraid to sell her doilies at the church bazaar!I found one forum where they argued that it was illegal to quote, because even if you note the original speaker you are incorporating another's thoughts with yours.Its ridiculous! As Shakespeare said, "There is nothing new under the sun." From the beginning of time, we've been taking things apart and remaking them. This is an age so stifling of creativity! If this frenzy really took hold, there would be no innovation or improvements.My God! Every person around the world, sitting reading this is wearing somebody's knock off of an original design. Unless you are ultra rich!You know, *lol*... please don't be offended, but I've honestly noticed the loudest complainers are actually people who have adapted original ideas, as you have (see Number 1 and 2 especially), to make a new product? *lol*..."Give the kids a break!"I doubt Jenny means to become a "global headrest cover baron". I'm glad she gave them an opportunity. Hopefully the garbage, and the cloudy mess that copyright issues have become, will be sorted out with intelligence, and good spirit, so that at least children can be allowed to learn without fearing a lawsuit.If massage strokes were copyrighted as a property, goodness! No one would be allowed to massage!!  I see the infection going there as well. I learned a lot of new work by friends sharing their favorite strokes. I shared some of my own when I gave a massage and someone thought, "I like how that feels, I'm going to do that too." Should we start fearing technique thieves every time we massage? Will we have to use spies and lawyers to keep that "property" our own? Will we one day have to fear every new client because it might be a spy? Will bodyworkers have to give a cut from every massage to the original "inventors" of the technique? Can you see where this can go?And who respects and protects the original inventors of massage? Most styles and approaches are "a little of this and a little of that"... adapted from ancient origins. And those bones are conveniently dried to dust. Just my two cents!gi

 

[Pompal 09.]

face cradle covers

NO, I understand her position and I think it is great for the kids too. I was in that kind of class once. I just wanted people to see if from the sellers point also. I mean it's not like we can stop her anyway. It is good for them to sew something that is different than a blouse and sweat pants. So good luck to the kids, I hope they sew some good ones that are good quality.Jenny

 

[Sweetie]

ok,maybe i should have stated that they will be using one I MADE???? (would have kept feathers from being ruffled if i had!!)  i just dont have the time to make them anymore, i work 3 jobs!  Jenny, you didnt even ask b4 you jumped on your horse and judged me. im doing a good thing, and saving money in the process. and i thought my FELLOW MT's would appreciate the idea. gutehands, thanks! :} hope you can utilize this!!

 

[Shannon (: 8.21.09]

I am sorry. You didn't say they were ones you made. So it is assumed they were bought.I should have asked you if they were bought.  I am glad that you aren't doing it with ones you bought. Sorry again. That is just a sore subject with me, because it happens a lot. I sold one to an MT here in town, and the next thing I know, he is making them and making them for other MT"S. I really do hope that they do a great job for you. I like to save money also. I hate spending money.

 

[boston]

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Usually, if you sew, you have the wherewithall to figure out how any pattern is made. Or you can go to a bookstore & get any number of publications about it. I have been making my own fleece covers since before you advertised here. The idea is not exactly original.BUT, you are an entrepreneur, and you are supplying and meeting a demand for convenience. So are we as massage practitioners, on a certain level. We are providing a service, meeting a demand for pain relief, etc.Jenny, why don't you expand your business to sell a pattern kit, so you can cash in on the trend of do-it-yourselfers? Or write a booklet that you could sell on your website that includes bolster cover patterns, etc?I think the project for the class is awesome! I only have time to sew maybe one or two a week, but I often push the sewing back. It really only takes minutes, but I have lots of things to fill my down time. Even though I'm somebody who crafts her own, I still buy from others to support the professions & to have a little extra time on my hands!

 

[Trudy J]

face cradle covers

thank you sagetherapist, that is a great idea. I just might try that. I apologize for any feathers I ruffled. I think that I was just in one of those moods last night when I read that I took it out on this posting. I know that I am not a massage therapist, but I still have good input. Jenny

 

[Farah]

I absolutely agree Jenny.Your feedback on other topics has been appropriate & great to read. Knockoffs are a fact of life though. I know I would feel the same as you, but then again, I carry a knockoff Louis Vuitton bag that my dad sent me from Dubai!I hope you'll take some of the ideas that are shared around here & go with them in your own direction.Who knows... maybe that suggestion about a class making the cradle covers could be useful to you someday if your business booms!   You could be up & up about it, saying that X Design is manufactured by the fundraising energies of _ _ High School, to support their National Tennis Team, etc. (don't get into any sweat shop scandals though! ha ha)I just think as a creative entrepreneur, you could glean alot of positive & profitable ideas from our little think tank here.I do know about getting your hackles up... look at me whining the other day on the "next door neighbor" thread. Know what I did? I got great support from friends here, got a great massage from a member of this forum at her new center, and now I am inspired to use that as impetus (sp???) to rebound into more success at our beautiful space.Jill/Sagetherapist

 

[Omar]

face cradle covers

the pattern idea was a good one! sell your ideas, your patterns...market-market-market!! we all have bad days, Jenny, no harm,no foul :} I usually post late and dont always remember to put in all the info i should!! good luck with your business venture!

 

[edward s]

thanks everybody for the great suggestions. I hope all is well now. I will do what you suggested and hope it  sells. My new website will be coming up soon. WHould you guys be willing to rate it for me when it is all done? Thanks for understanding.Jenny

 

[webjunkiee]

face cradle covers

Of course, Jenny! I think the pattern making is a wonderful idea. Gi

 

[EPIC FAIL]

face cradle covers

Jenny,Have you thought anymore on making and selling the patterns/directions?I know I would purchase one.ThanksRobyn

 

[Angel H]

I haven't.  I have been so busy with the website, that I haven't been able to look into it. I wouldn't know what to charge either. I still am trying to get everything onto my website. Man, I didn't realize how hard it is to keep it up. How do you do it? How do you have a family and a full-time job? What a job. But I will look  into soon I hope. thanks for asking. jenny

 

[maggie]

face cradle covers

. Man, I didn't realize how hard it is to keep it up. How do you do it? How do you have a family and a full-time job?

jenny

I don't know how the others do it with little ones around.  Our are all grown up and out on their own.

I do have my nearly fulltime "day job" though and that seems more a chore nowadays.

I'm still waiting on AT&T to do an install of the stinkin phone!!!.......I feel like I am in a funk waiting for them.  I have to get my marketing out.

Anyhow, yes, when and if you ever put out a pattern I will probably order one.

You're handling well......just breathe.

Robyn

 

[The Joker: Midnight Clown]

Jenny -

Any update on if you will be marketing a "pattern" or not?

 

[Sanam]

Hi Everyone,
I haven't even had much time this last year to think about it. At the first of the year, we learned my 4 year old had a hole in his heart, so things went on the back burner then, and I just haven't thought much about them yet. He had his surgery in July and things are just starting to get back to normal. It is a good idea, I just don't know what to do. I probably will, I just have to commit. It is hard to sell the pattern, when I have been doing this for so long, but I am getting ready to have a break. I will get back with you when I know for sure. I wouldn't even know what to charge for them. Let me talk with my husband and see what I should charge and I will let you know.
Jenny