Discectomy - After the Operation

Hi Everyone,

I have had a recent and modest improvement in my back and Sciatic Pain (L4L5 herniation). Since early Jan I've gone from level 7 - 8 constant pain, walking / hobbling with crutches and no flexibility to my current condition of level 3-5 pain in top of right foot and back of thigh but no longer needing crutches, limited to 500m (I was on crutches for 3 months) plus the beginings of flexibility. I have stopped work and Im doing intensive Physio / Pilates under one to one guidance.
...So, I think my condition is improving at a reasonable-ish rate although I cant function "normally". I have a discectomy scheduled on feb 10th, I have considered cancelling and taking my chances with continued physio. My main worry is if I dont have the op but then don't continue to improve then I'm months and months away from another chance at the op and I'm prolonging the damage to the nerve! I would very much appreciate anyones opinion... If you were showing signs of improvement, however slight, just prior to your op, would you risk it and cancel your op or would you 'grasp the nettle'?
I feel like I should give my body a chance as it is trying to sort itself out, maybe the herniation is shrinking? but Im concerned about damaging the nerve further when I have a chance of the op.

So Glad to hear of the recovery stories. Take Care, Al
 
Dear Alistair, if your disc is herniated then it isn't going to get better no matter how much Physio you do. I had mine done nearly 3 months ago and 16 months after my problem started, my muscles and nerves are still recovering and I think that is due to the long wait. The op will free up the movement in your legs and will, eventually, make your exercises worthwhile. I suggest you have the op and get it done with, but only you can make the final decision.

Best wishes, whatever you decide to do.

Melza
 
Hi Alistair
No-one can make the final decision to have the op but you. Listen to all the advice and make your decision based on how you feel. You have the right to as normal life as possible and the op will probably be the best way forward. Physio does not cure a herniated disc, only time may but not always. I had a microdiscectomy 7 months ago and am doing great. I am not 100% pain free or back to full strength. I am back to teaching 15+ exercise classes a week so my op was a definate success. I would certainly have the op again if needed. The recovery is not quick and you have to be patient but the chances are it will be succesful. If I was in your position I would not cancel the op unless I was completely pain free the day before!!

All the best to you in your decision, Sure you will make the right one

Take care
Fitbird
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Hi Alistair i agree with the others the best thing i ever did was have the op if i didnt have any other medical conditions i feel i would be able to do so much and to not have that awful sciatic pain was a wonderful feeling ,it is at the end of the day a decision only you can make but my advice would be go for the op ,before the op i was having intense physio and even my physio advised me to and see consultant as she said i would never be free from the pain.After i had my op the consultant told me the disc had really damaged the nerve and had i left it any longer i could have damaged the nerve alot more .
Let us know what decision you make good luck claire x x
 
Hi Alistair,

Glad to hear your pain is under control. Are you still using the oramorph?
When i was waiting for my op, i was able to just use my crutches periodically and thought 'Great!'....but someone pointed out to me that it didn't mean i was better, just that the painkillers were doing their job.
My pain hadn't gone, it was just 'masked' by all the tablets, and the dreadful oramorph.
My doctors said that if i didn't have the surgery, that i was running the risk of further damage and so was better to operate then, rather than leave it longer.

I am about 10 weeks post-op now, and am not pain free, but loads better off than I was. I can get around without the aid of crutches, and just use tramadol and paracetamol for pain relief....got off the other horrid stuff thankfully!!
Also, i have been back at work for 3 weeks. On very light duties, but its good to be back, i was off for 5 months and got very bored and quite depressed.


Its your decision at the end of the day, but your surgeon or GP should be able to give you advice about this.
I went for it, and don't regret it at all.
Hope things work out well for you, all the best,
Ali
 
Melza- Glad to hear things are looking up for you with your employers. I've got my meeting on the 4th with HR, manager & union rep followed by an apt with occfy health Dr! Will let you know how it goes.
Alistair - as the others have already said, only you can make that final decision. Even when I consider the problems i've had I would still do it again.
As for my recovery folks I still have a few problems but i'm pleased to say the Lyrica seems to be kicking in. I still can't get into the bath & struggle with socks & shoes but i'm keeping up with the daily stretches as much as I can post tramadol (some days I can only hold for a second or 2 but I do what my body allows) I'm seeing my consultant again on the 10th & he'll make the decision then as to wether another MRI is needed. Fingers crossed, touch wood & all that
Ali - Glad to hear your back at work & alls well
Tracey xx
 
Hi Tracey, my big meeting is on the 11th Feb...I went in for the appeal stage, just because they made me so angry. Don't know how it will go but keep briefing myself on being assertive. It's all a learning curve for me. Good luck with yours, and don't let them knock you down!
 
hi alistair...just want to echo what everyone else has said. it's a tough decision! i had on and off sciatica for 7 years and turned down an op 3 years ago and the pain went away. however last april/may, the pain got so bad that surgery was my only option. i think this was because the disc had herniated/burst, as opposed to just poking out and squashing the nerve (prolapse). i still had good days and bad days, but only because of lots and lots of painkillers. i was able to go privately and had the operation in august. i honestly believe my quick recovery is thanks to the speed at which i had the op - this minimised the nerve irritation and damage and consequent scarring.

let us know what you decide!! good luck xx
 
Alistair, what concerns me about your current situation is the phrase: ' I can't function "normally". ' As you would have seen on this forum, the challenge of functioning normally is a highly sought ideal. For me, that was what was behind my decision to have surgery. I wanted to know whether surgery or non-surgical options would give me the better chance of functioning most normally. I was advised by my Neurosurgeon that my chances of improvement were limited without surgery. I could continue walking in pain limping, and with foot drop, being unable to sit down for more than half a second, being unable to work or do anything at all really......... or try something else (surgery).

I wouldn't say surgery is easy or a decision to be taken lightly. It may not be the answer to all of the problems but it might just get you some of your life back.
 
Hi Ali

i have a feeling you mentioned you had a swelling at your op site. Was this the case? I had a swelling 8 weeks after surgery which I was put on anti-biotics for as they thought I had picked up an infection. The big swelling went but I still do suffer with a small swelling most of the time. It's not painful unless I tap it then it hurts. DI you ever find out what yours was and has it completely cleared up? I asked the doctor about it but he dismissed it but i'm worried about it!

Any thoughts please?

THanks
Lots of love
Fitbird
 
Thanks very much to you all for your advice, I appreciate hearing the common theme from people who have been through it all. I have had a good think and I reckon I may have been over optomistic about my current condition, also with perfect timing my pain has returned to high levels over the last 24hrs... decision made! I have my op on the 10th Feb, I will let you know how I get on. My target is to be of some use when our baby is born in the summer.
Again, many thanks for all your advice.

Ive steared clear of the auromorph since reading some of your experiences, Im working my way through the alphabet of Pain killers instead.

Take care, Al
 
Hey fitbird,

My swelling took a long time to go down, but thankfully now its gone.
I was about 4 weeks post op when it got so big that i was packed off to hospital. The doctor thought it might be a dural tear, but it was a haematoma, which is like a little internal bleed under the wound. He said he didn't want to touch it and it would go down by itself, it was really painful, and i had a little swelling for some weeks afterwards, but as i said its gone now and i am 10 weeks post-op now.
I showed it to one of my surgical blokes and he too said it would disperse and re-absorb back into my body.
Keep a watchful eye on it, and if you get headaches and/or nausea, go and see your GP as soon as you can. Thats what they monitored me for as i had those symptoms as well as the swelling.
Hope this is of some help to you hun

Alistair, you don't know how happy i felt when you said you had ditched the oramorph. Withdrawing off that was one of the most horrific things i have ever experienced! Did any of your doctors tell you that you might have ended up hooked? They failed to tell me that bit, but were happily to keep shovelling it down my neck!!
I hope that from somewhere from A-Z, that you find something that helps!
Good luck for your op mate, and even more for when the wee one makes an appearance!!! How lovely, two 'Healthy pages babies'!!! You and Olli, how cool!!
 
Hi Ali, Oramorph is definately off the menu! the last thing I need is an addiction problem. I was first given Oramorph during an emergancy call out, the doc said 5ml every 4 hrs or as often as you need it!!! not a word of caution. Im now taking Arcoxia, Its hard to say if it helps or not, I try to switch the pills Im using as much as possible. Roll on february 10th!!

We go for our 20 wk scan on March 5th, hope to be up and about by then

Have a good weekend everyone, take care Al
 
Hi ali
thanks for your reply. will certainly keep an eye on it. Glad all seems to be going well for you after your op. the recovery is so slow though and it seems like we take 1 step forward and 2 back all the time. Have you started any pilates classes yet? My back feels so strong and mobile but still have some flexibility issues in my leg. Nothing serious and am prepared to live with it and just be thankful that's all that's wrong with me now! I have been told to treat my back as normal now but it's so hard to do that as i'm still scared it will happen again or i'll do something and will bring on the pain again! I suppose that's normal after what we have been through. 8 months of pain is enough to make anyone cautious.

Anyway have a class to teach in a bit so bye for now and take care all of you dear people.

Much love
Fitbird
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I'm confused about what health professionals describe as 'recovery'. I might be 3 months post op now and already injured myself doing normal stuff....well, putting up a curtain pole and hanging curtains on it is normal for me anyway. Really fed up with stretching several times a day, even if it does seem to help. And then the back strengthening exercises! I spoke to a nurse from work, she had the same op a few years ago and told me she still has problems with nerve irritation, does it ever really end?

Still don't know what plans Southampton have for me, I phoned the consultants secretary who assured me she would find out and let me know....and then silence. I could chase her I suppose, but really can't be bothered at the moment. How much chasing can a woman do? Quiet boys!

I might sound bleak but am actually feeling pretty optimistic. After suffering sheer torture with this dieting stuff my weight has managed to reduce by about 4 pounds, I was beginning to think it would never go! Only another 7 to go and I shall be happy. Really need to exercise more but the nerves get so irritated if I do anything too ambitious. Also cut down on drugs apart from anti inflammatory and a Diazepam at night. I asked whether I really needed the Amitriptyline now as it didn't seem to do anything, the doc informed me that it wasn't a pain killer but an anti depressant. It's for people suffering chronic pain and apparently helps the body resist a slip into depression. Did anyone else know that? She advised me to keep taking it, one a night, until I'm completely cured. So that's why I didn't jump off the cliff!

Really good to have new babies arriving on here, you'd better keep us posted on developments boys. Can't find it in me to envy you though.

xx
 
i have never heard that about amitryptaline melza... i knew it was an antidepressant, although prescribed in much higher doses than 5-10mgs a day when used to treat depression. apparently there is some shady research somewhere that says amitryptaline helps with neuropathic (nerve) pain. it never did anything for me other than knock me out at night. and diazepam had the same, if not better effect - i took that in the morning though.

with all the scary stuff about oromorph being addictive, i feel i should mention that diazepam is extremely addictive and the need to increase the dosage all the time because of building a tolerance is equally relevant. plus GPs seem to think of diazepam as a cure-all sweetie. there are so many people who i work with who are addicted. i don't mean to frighten anyone...i was on 2mgs a day of diazepam and came off it easily, but i think we should know what we are getting ourselves into!

am loving pilates fitbird...thank you for the tip!

take care all xxx

ps...apologies for mis-spelling all the names of drugs...why are they so complicated to spell?!
 
Drugs names are deliberately made complicated to justify the high wages of Dr's Jess! I agree about the Diazepam and had to fight the Dr for my last prescription, only because they don't have an alternative for releasing the muscles in my neck. Luckily I only take them when the muscles get too tense and I'm ready to pass out....I'm now down to one a night. I really do sound like a drug addict don't I.

Would really like to try Pilates but not sure how my upper back would cope with the moves, I've never done that type of exercise before. I'm considering going to a class just to observe, what do you think Pilate girls?
 
My wife is on 75mg of amitryptaline for head aches. She has a damaged nerve in her neck after a motor bike crash about 12 years ago. she tryed to come off them but she is finding it very very hard because of the side affects.

Our 20 week scan is on the 9th of March. I will be very nervous.

Has anyone tryed to do any running yet. I have been told not to do anything more than 10 minutes at anyone time. Even better would be to do 1 min walk then 1 min run. I tryed to run the other day but my hips hurt after a while.

@fitbird. I stretch for about 40 min every day and i have a good range of movement in my legs. I still get nerve twitching when i do too much and sometimes i get a spicky pain in my legs if i do alot of leg weights.

Cheers

Olli
 
I'm doing 'clinical' pilates. It's done on machines (very similar to the sorts of machines you see at the gym but without the weights, you can alter the resistance though). My physio showed me how the machines work over two sessions, wrote me a program and now I go in a do it by myself. I find this is really helping.

I've also been going to a separate class which is a mixture of pilates (no machines), yoga and the Alexander Technique. I am getting more flexible but still have a lot of problems with my right hand side (the op side of course). I used to be very very flexible and now I am pretty inflexible. Boo. Hopefully given time some more flexibility will come back. I do as much as I can in the class but not to the point of it getting painful.

We've just had a week where each day has been over 43 degrees (about 110F). Maybe there are some additional benefits exercising in sauna like conditions.
 
hi everyone, i would like to know if anyone else who has had a discectomy is suffering with more pain after the op than before. i had the op on 10th july, 2008, and now have more pain in my legs than i did before. now have to take morphine, diazepam and paracetamol. has been so bad at times i have not been able to walk, not been a good time, was hoping the op would improve the pain. would really appreciate some advice from anyone who has been or is going through the same. family and friends been really good, but do not know what it is like to actually be going through this, sorry for sounding really down but after suffering from pain for almost 2 years it gets to you, as i am sure you all know. please could anyone give me any advice or any excercise tips to help me get through this, thanks, tracy r.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Vicky๐ŸฅฐA new arrival at our branch ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ‘ฏโ€โ™€๏ธVicky is a very young CBC part time student working for tuition fees and books, this bright young sexy girl is willing to showcase her eagerness to please AND be pleased. Busty 34C boobs on a peti
  18. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Jennifer, Mia & Sophia. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded.
  19. Dreaminn:
    SUNDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: EMILY, LULU & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ EMILY is a tall Chinese girl, 170Cms with nice natural C Cups and long brown hair. Emily is open minded and very friendly. LULU is a very popular & well known Chinese attendant, slim and beautiful with 34C Cups, long sexy legs, and incredible services.
  20. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet student Summer and young fun Jessy open mind , pretty EFG Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  21. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ PAYAL PEARL, MONIKA, NIMRAT, PAOLA, RAVEN, MALIYA, AAVI, KANIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  22. Pink Flower Spa:
    โœฐ 416.299.5515 โœฐ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough โœฐ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ง A talented Girl from Lebanon is joining our team bringing with her a unique set of skillsand a fresh perspective....๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Selena (New) Vietnamese just 19Yrs, young & curvy, pretty...๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณRuby Taiwanese | Vietnamese, medium build and shapely, pretty...๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณKelly (New) is Chinese Vietnamese, standing tall with captivating beauty and a radiant complexion....โœฐ PINK FLOWER SPA โœฐ 416.299.5515 โœฐ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8
  23. Flowers Spa:
    โœฐ BLUEXADO SPA โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6, Thornhill Vaughan ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Anna (New) from Hร€Nแป˜I Vietnam beautiful, white skin, big booty...Great Service...๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Jessie | Jullie (New) 19Yrs Chinese | Vietnamese, young and pretty...Great Service+...๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ Sherry | Cici (New) 22Yrs HongKong beautiful, petite, sensitive chest, pretty face...Service Queen...โœฐ BLUEXADO SPA โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6, Thornhill Vaughan
  24. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  25. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Suki and Tiffany Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  26. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Young Slim Sexy Chinese Emma, Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  27. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-06Today we have 5 girls on Saturday๏ผš Jennifer - CBC girl with large breasts and a nice booty to compliment her fun services Vicky - cute spinner with a slim frame and services Sandy -... ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹new girl Linda๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  28. KSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: CICI, HELEN, YOYO & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ CICI is a slim 110 Lbs & pretty 23 years โ€œMust Tryโ€ honey, with all menus available. HELEN stands 5โ€™3โ€ & weighs 110 Lbs, with nice 34D pillows to comfort you. YOYO is JAPANESE, 21 Yrs, 5โ€™2โ€ & 115 Lbs, with a nice big ass & great service.
  29. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan just ar
  30. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl with a wild ro
  31. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Monica ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Wendy ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  32. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lucky, Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  33. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ SPA: JUDY. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ JUDY is a YOUNG AND ATTRACTIVE Chinese girl. Details to follow, & hopefully a pic...
  34. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Ivy โค๏ธ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivyโ€™s good looks
  35. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Young Slim Sexy Chinese Emma, Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  36. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5โ€™4โ€ and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets and very open minded.
  37. ASPA:
    SATUR๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny and best massage Rachel. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  38. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธMAGGIE, TARA & YOYO. Maggie is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. Tara is a young & pretty Asian girl with big melons and fun services. New Girl Yoyo is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups
  39. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Niko & Tracy, *nicole tracy cindy Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Niko/color] is tall, very pretty, and slim with a sexy body, natural C Cups and long nipples.
  41. Dreaminn:
    SATURDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: ELSA, SOPHIA & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ ELSA is slim, petite & very pretty student, early 20โ€™s about 5โ€™2โ€ and 105 Lbs. Elsa has an innocent look about her, but she can drive you wild with pleasure, and provides a great massage. SOPHIA is a young & beautiful 21 year old Vietnamese lady, slim
  42. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet student Sophia and young cute Yoyo with 36DD , pretty Ella and fun GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Suki and Tiffany Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ PAYAL PEARL, MONIKA, NIMRAT, PAOLA, RAVEN, MALIYA, AAVI, KANIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Moon203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st Turkish Persian girl &big boobs BoBo in Friday and Saturday
  46. KSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: HELEN, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HELEN is a pretty Chinese babe, 24, 5โ€™3โ€ & 115 Lbs, can provide good services. SUKI is 23, 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body. CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5โ€™3โ€ sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares
  47. SunriseRH:
    FRIDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ EMMA is a very young girl from Portugal, tall, skinny & beautiful. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
  48. NewOriental:
    FRIDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY, HELEN & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. HELEN is a young, slim & very sexy Vietnamese lady. She not only looks good, she IS good. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5โ€™4โ€ and 105Lbs
  49. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, NISHA, AMANDA, MAY, SARIKA, KIRAN, SANA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  50. ASPA:
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