Bill C-36, The Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act

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With the passing of Bill C-36 , the ban on "Common Bawdy-Houses" is back under Bill C-36's The Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act, with the bawdy-house defined as "A place kept or occupied or resorted to by one or more persons, for the practice of acts of indecency!"

Doesn't this targets Massage parlours? Sex workers most of the time share a separate address, or prefer to work in places like Massage parlours, so they can work together for mutual safety. Under this law, that's not a legal option! Now, if a sex worker keeps a separate address to work from, it's considered a Bawdy-house. So now by LAW, sex workers can only work from their homes.

As a Hand job is defined as a sexual service in Bill-36C, does this mean visiting a massage parlour, NOW amounts to visiting a Bawdy house and can lead to criminal prosecution against an individual??

Need give your input to clarify this please.
 
Yes this is fundamentally the end of the Massage Parlours as we know them. The old "Bawdy-House" laws were what were termed "nuisance" laws. Now it all become criminal. As in criminal record that is available to employers. Criminal record that can deny you entry into the U.S. or just publicly avialbe information that can cause considerable shame to your life.

The two parties at greatest risk are purchasers of a "sexual service" and the owners of MP's who "live off the avails". Demand will plummet as anyone with anything to lose will stop going to MP's and as that happens owners will get prosecuted here and there and scare the others out of business.

Note the bill does not "define a sexual service" but Peter McKay in a statement at one of the hearings says that he feels that the supreme court has already defined massage parlor masturbation and strip club lap dancing as a sexual service. I've been to Sweden before and after this law passed. It is a squeaky clean place now. No MP's, strip clubs, ads for escorts....nothing.

There's a 50/50 chance that the law will run into problems in the supreme court but that will take three years. I don't think the law is actually in place at this very moment but it will be soon. Yes, girls can legally work on their own from their homes so long as no children are present. Customers still face criminal prosecution and yes, women will be at greater risk is patrons know where they live and they have no other people to back them up for safety. It's all about winning elections.
 
That's something you should ask an attorney as opposed to some dudes who frequent MP's on an internet forum.

I have a drinking buddy who practices criminal law and asked him about this. He said that it's probably not going to change anything in terms of policing practice. It's all about if the Crown believes they can get a conviction, otherwise, they're going to release without charge. After an arrest or two and release without charge, the police will stop arresting for that offense. (Who needs that kind of paperwork for nothing!)

So, while police will probably still be busting MP's that are using underage MPA's and victims of sex trafficking, and controlled by Organized Crime, the attendees of the spas are probably just going to still get a fright (as in a stern talking to saying that they can be charged, and will be arrested next time, etc... etc...) and then kicked to the curb without charge or arrest.
 
If you're really that concerned, I'd ask a lawyer instead of dudes on teh internets who may or may not have vested interest in continuing to hobby or may or may not have intricate knowledge of the Canadian legal system.

I have a buddy who's a criminal lawyer, so I asked if he thought it would mean the end of massage parlors. He doesn't. He thinks it'll be the same-o same-o. Police just busting up places relating to underage, sex trafficked, drugs and gang offences.

... and if I do get arrested- at least I have an attorney to call who already knows the story.
 
Consult a lawyer, not some random sods on a board for guys looking for blowjobs.
 
I took 1 hour option she got naked and did the massage then I was allowed to massage her then the went back to do me and I got to rub her lower back again and then she did the happy ending for me...Nice clean place except she change for smaller towels I ask her about 4 hands she does not want to do it.With her new place forget the discount she ain't cheaper then the Chinese parlor ....too bad cause crossing half of Montreal to see her if not worth it for me.
 
If you're really that concerned, I'd ask a lawyer instead of dudes on teh internets who may or may not have vested interest in continuing to hobby or may or may not have intricate knowledge of the Canadian legal system.

I have a buddy who's a criminal lawyer, so I asked if he thought it would mean the end of massage parlors. He doesn't. He thinks it'll be the same-o same-o. Police just busting up places relating to underage, sex trafficked, drugs and gang offences.

... and if I do get arrested- at least I have an attorney to call who already knows the story.
That's nice to know, but I wouldn't risk getting my face flashed a cross the evening news when LE start busting up places without notice. IMHO It will be too much of a risk to hobby after the Bill 36-C come into effect. For those who are brave enough to risk it all, good luck to them. It was fun while it lasted, but the door is closing soon for the hobbyist
 
With the passing of Bill C-36 , the ban on "Common Bawdy-Houses" is back under Bill C-36's The Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act, with the bawdy-house defined as "A place kept or occupied or resorted to by one or more persons, for the practice of acts of indecency!"

Doesn't this targets Massage parlours? Sex workers most of the time share a separate address, or prefer to work in places like Massage parlours, so they can work together for mutual safety. Under this law, that's not a legal option! Now, if a sex worker keeps a separate address to work from, it's considered a Bawdy-house. So now by LAW, sex workers can only work from their homes.

As a Hand job is defined as a sexual service in Bill-36C, does this mean visiting a massage parlour, NOW amounts to visiting a Bawdy house and can lead to criminal prosecution against an individual??

Need give your input to clarify this please.
Curtains are coming down soon for Hobbying with the passing of Bill 36-C. I wouldn't risk that much for a hand job! The spa owners will tell otherwise to keep their businesses afloat. Common sense tells otherwise! Not worth the risk and the consequences. That's my two cents.
 
Unless Bill C-36 gets overturned in the Supreme Court, which will take years, I agree that anyone with anything to lose will stop going. The End Is Near.
 
End of fun for Hobbyist :'(


ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/senate-passes-controversial-prostitution-legislation-c-36-1.2087104
 
Bill 36-C received the Royal Assent on the 6th Nov, which means PROTECTION OF COMMUNITIES AND EXPLOITED PERSONS ACT becomes law in 30 days!!! :'(
 
Looks like I pissed offed some massage parlour owners by my question. I think it was a concern that was on most hobbyists minds. We Hobbyist are at greater risk for criminal prosecution than the MPA or SP. Better to get info and play SAFE and be SORRY later.

Any Hate mail to be addressed to, RubNTugAToutlookDOTcom :)
 
Looks like I pissed offed some massage parlour owners by my question. I think it was a concern that was on most hobbyists minds. We Hobbyist are at greater risk for criminal prosecution than the MPA or SP. Better to get info and play SAFE and be SORRY later.

Any Hate mail to be addressed to, RubNTugAToutlookDOTcom :)

Most MPA's are oblivious but more and more are cluing in. Important to remember that THEY have nothing to lose. A big fallacy of the law granting workers immunity is that they can step up attracting clients. In fact, their immunity is key to protecting the law in the supreme court.

The owners on the other hand are very culpable as too are the landlords. I know an owner of a strip club through a friend and they've ordered the girls to stop touching customers next week.

So beware. The MPA's can turn you in, or blackmail you and they're Scott free. I will enjoy the last few days then say hang it up until when and if the law changes.
 
Any news or had anybody any problems after the Bill C-36 was passed?
 
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    WEDNESDAY at ๐‹๐„๐Ž๐๐€ & ๐…๐‘๐ˆ๐„๐๐ƒ๐’: JESSIE & YUKI. Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐ โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐—๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—˜ is a slim and very sexy Asian girl with skills of the highest degree. ๐—ฌ๐—จ๐—ž๐—œ, so sweet, so sexy, and can blow your mind. ๐—ฆ๐—ž๐—ฌ๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—ฅ is returning Saturday!
  29. SunriseRH:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: LULU, MICHELLE & SUMMER. Also NEW Girl Lulu after 2pm. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ
  30. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ2 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ JENNY: A TALL AND SLIM KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN ๐ŸŒธ EMILY: A PETITE YOUNG AND CURVY THAI MIXED GIRL THAT IS FRIENDLY, SPEAKS FLUENT ENGLISH AND IS NOT TIP HUNGRY ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
  31. NewOriental:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. VIVIAN is a pretty and very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5โ€™7โ€ tall, with a slim figure. Vivian is very friendly and versatile.
  32. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am,New First Day Young Slim Vietnamese Lina, Young Slim Sexy Thai Girl Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki,Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  33. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage and..
  34. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธCindy, Kelly & Kiki. Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Kelly is slim and attractive with very slight curves, all natural coconuts, a nice bum, and rockinโ€™ services.
  35. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  36. Sparkling Spa:
    ๐Ÿ“ฃ๐Ÿ“ฃMORNING WOOD? WE CAN FIX THAT!! WITH CHINESE NEW GIRL and SERVICE QUEEN JENNIFER! 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!!๐Ÿ“ฃ๐Ÿ“ฃ ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’ง๐Ÿ’ง! SPA LINE 905-604-8186!!
  37. bumika.vashi:
    (((เค†เคชเค•เฅ‹ เคฌเคฟเคจเคพ เคจเคพเคŸเค• เคฏเคพ เคจเค–เคฐเฅ‡ เค•เคฐเคจเฅ‡ เคตเคพเคฒเคพ เคธเคฐเฅเคตเคฟเคธ เคšเคพเคนเฅ‡ เคคเฅ‹เคน เคฏเคพเคฆ เค•เคฐเคจเคพ. ))) :oops:If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. :oops: Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not fo
  38. Langbrief:
    Mississauga spa
  39. peter123456789:
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  40. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am,New First Day Young Slim Vietnamese Lina, Young Slim Sexy Thai Girl Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki,Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  41. Sparkling Spa:
    ๐Ÿ“ฃ๐Ÿ“ฃ50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!!๐Ÿ“ฃ๐Ÿ“ฃ ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’ง๐Ÿ’งWITH A WILD TIME WITH JAPANESE MILF CHANEL and SERVICE QUEEN JENNIFER!! 905-604-8186!!
  42. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 8 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, LUCY, AMANDA, NISHA, SANA, AAVI, MAY ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  43. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  44. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Connie , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Niki,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  45. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699We have 5 young girls for your enjoyment Tuesday : :heart4:heart4 New girl lisa :heart4 Judy - well proportioned model to bring toe curling fun Rina - petite beauty ready to rock your world Lucy- tall leggy beauty with nice figure Barbie -...
  46. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting to
  47. Birchmount&14th:
    TUESDAY at ๐‹๐„๐Ž๐๐€ & ๐…๐‘๐ˆ๐„๐๐ƒ๐’: JESSIE & YUKI. Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐ โ˜Ž๏ธ JESSIE is a slim and very sexy Asian girl with skills of the highest degree. YUKI, so sweet, so sexy, and can blow your mind. $120 30 Minutes Fixed rate for All Menu Package (including BBBJ, DATY, Body Slide, Rimming, Full)
  48. SunriseRH:
    TUESDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: LULU, MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered.
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new sweet Mia 25 years old and young cute Ivy with curve body, pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. NewOriental:
    TUESDAY at ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: HAPPY & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. VIVIAN is a pretty and very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5โ€™7โ€ tall, with a slim figure. Vivian is very friendly and versatile.
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