Best Bargirl and Falang in the world...

[Baby Boy due 2/14/2010!]

A couple of days ago I had a ‘misunderstanding’ with the payment of my tap at a Patong bar…I really should have known better, but it came at the end of a week in which I was questioning if I really want to live in a land were I believe the majority of people see me as a firstly as a wallet and secondly as a fellow human…
The incident blew way of proportion and I want to warn everyone that when it comes to such misunderstandings the Thais are always right. Be careful…better to let them empty your pockets and smile…
In no time at all a policeman was determined to take me away.
If it wasn’t for a bargirl who I had met and talked with for the first time earlier in that night, and a falang I had never even seen before in my life, I would have been whisked off to the station for sure.
I guess conflict brings out the worst and the best in people. These two angles restored my faith in humanity more powerfully than it had been taken away…Both of them went out on a limb for me for no other reason than that they have hearts of gold.
Bargirls will tell you all the time that they have good hearts. I am a natural cynic and tend to believe that by this they mean they think themselves worthy of your cash. But actions speak louder than words and this girl demonstrated her good heart. She came over to interpret for me and explain my side of the story to the police - remarkable considering she worked at the bar where my troubles took place! How is that for decency! Still the policeman was not convinced and started to lead me away.
I was afraid to go to the station alone and asked this girl not to leave me. She said she would not.
Now can you picture the following! A falang - a complete stranger to me, then came over and started emptying his wallet into the policeman’s hand! (Mine had been emptied earlier into the bar owners) Still the policeman was trying to lead me away…and get this! The bargirl then stepped between us and was actually trying to nudge the policeman away from me while pleading with him to leave me be…
Finally to my great relief she convinced the police man and he left…
I thanked the falang and told him I would repay him, he only asked that I bye him a drink sometime. He told me he was a regular in a bar near to where I had my drama (in the Soi below Dragon disco) and that he was from Finland. He was a large and older fellow who has spent a lot of time in Thailand.
I feel REALLY bad that I have not gone back yet to find him, but I am very reluctant to go back to that area - especially considering the bargirl told me to stay away. Does anyone know who this man might be? If so PLEASE send me a message…
The bargirl told me she had “Guaranteed” me to the police man…Her English was not so good and I don’t know what she meant by this…has anyone heard this phrase before? Still, she told me the incident was finished with - only that I should stay away. But I really hope I see her around…
Money cannot bye genuine kindness and compassion and I am happy to report that such virtues do exist in Patong. I was VERY luck to be the recipient of it. I am so grateful that these two people were bold enough to help out.
We hear many stories of people being ripped of in Thailand - this incident was partly one of those but thankfully ended as one of good deeds…
It would be great to hear other stories of kind deeds done in Thailand if anyone has any to relate…

 

[Loser]

So now you learned a lesson I guess. When we go to bars where we have never been before we always pay cash. There are many off these story's. Some BG's only flash with there eye's to new visitors, and then when you smile back you got yourself a ticket for a ladydrink. Some are more agressive then others. It's not only bad you know.
On the other hand, now when I go to the bar where I ussualy come, I sometimes pay the day after!! No problem!! Only thing is, when you do that, don't complain about the amounth...... Pay cash or take the change....

Jo

 

[Van]

I'm glad to hear you had a happy outcome and yes there are good people out there , you are not the only bm here that has had a good samaritan come to the rescue , I remember Bafana had a bottle or something like that broken over his head and a nice young lady helped him out.

I'm curious to ask for more information as you haven't described what how the misunderstanding came about and what lead on from there for it to blow up out of all proportion ?

Most bm's here are aware of not messing with thai's but it's worthy of mentioning it as many newbies could learn from this.

 

[berberosaharan.com]

HI BB...WAS JUST THINKING THE SAME THING MYSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JONNY

 

[Pompal 09.]

As Nicke and other BM's have already said, avoid any problem with Thais. Just smile, pay if it is not crazy money, and go away. Nothing to win while fighting, you are on holidays to enjoy your trip, they are in their country and there to make money. You lost once, now you know what to avoid to do. Forget it and think about your next trip in paradise

 

[G Love]

it unsettles me that the police man seemed a bit too eager,,and was determined to proceed to the station,,,maybe had his house rent to pay?,,,,but seriously guys,,,anyone intending on visiting los,,,lets say,,for the first time,,reading about happenings like this,,,do you think it would sway thyere choice of destination?

 

[Envy]

Dont worry, Norrie, it is quite unusual and you will find more similar situations in our countries than in LOS

 

[Jeremiah]

I would also like to hear more details. Here's another happining with the police. I was staying in a guest house back from Rat-u-thit-pee road ,(royal paradise complex)not there but close.My aquaintance, an aussie bloke came to see me with a swedish acquaintance of our's. I was not in at the time ,at the beach. The austrailen stole a pair of shoes from a Japenese outside his door when leaving. The guesthouse owner,who was Danish said what the faN. Because out came the man and said,hey you took my shoes. So they called the police. Upon racing away from the crime they struck a taxi. This did'nt stop them and they road off. On a harley the swedish guy road. Now here I come and they say the police wants to talk to me? I say what and here's the police. The aussie had told them I gave him the shoes. So now the police officer wants me to go to this police station, I go with the insurrance of my landlord at the hotel and his wife. At the police station I explained, I know nothing, come from Barcelona. But without my landlord and his thia wife, I would have been ??? They had to pay I think 10,000 bht each.This included the impound on the harely.

 

[Wallachian]

i am not trying to be a hard guy, but in NYC, id be the first person to get into it with someone at a bar if i had a problem, but when i am in a different country, any, i just walk away and mind my own business. this is regarding the police or other thais. my thai gf has a best friend who is a really sweet 19yr old girl, and she has athai boyfriend that is hitting her. if this was the US id find the kid and kick the piss out of the little shit, but unfortunately, id have to look the other way becuase i wouldnt want to get jumped by 10 thai boys. its a shame

 

[Pompal 09.]

"I'm curious to ask for more information as you haven't described how the misunderstanding came about and what lead on from there for it to blow up out of all proportion ?"

...True I did not describe how the 'misunderstanding' took place. That was deliberate as the point of the story was to warn others to be careful and to praise the nice people that helped me out. That is still the point of it
Problems can arise in patong easily - and for stupid reasons - ther sometimes is no lodgic to how things get out of hand - but it not the reasons that matter so much as how you and others behave when they do occur.
I did not tell the details and I called it a 'misunderstanding' to be diplomatic. I don't care to pass blame or cast a dark shadow on anyone...
I will tell you that I had sat a bar for an hour and only had two cokes...The casher refused to give me any change out of a thousand bart note. I complained and before I knew it the police were there...
Perhaps bar owners think I am rude because I don't drink much? I am not sure...Often alcohol is ruled out for me due to work...Its one thing to front up tired after a night on town, but another thing to front up to work tired and hung over...I wont do that, so I dont drink...I like going to Nikies bar as nobody there hassles me if I don't drink...But I really think it pisses people off at many other bars...If you sit a bar for a while and don't spend so much rightly or wrongly the staff really hate it...
Try it for yourself sometime - just sit at a bar and drink coke all night - but be careful - it may almost get you arrested! :what:

 

[gladewalker69]

I know the problem! I like drinks, but am not so found of too much beer!

At a certain point I only drink soda's! in the bar I used to go regulary, they even bought wine, wich they normally did not have, to make me drink! The BG I was going out with told the owner, that at home I only drank wine!

I never stay in Patong, just go, if I don't have a GF. I don't want to be too drunk to get safe over the hill!

 

[Te Quiero Mucho MI Vida]

Thanks for the reply , I understand what you are saying that the most important point is to be careful in los but i also think some story behind is is highly relevant and of equal importance , so this is why i asked.

This was just another case of greed and it does happen often in los , I myself have been victim to ''bill padding'' which is when they select somebody at the bar they are going to rip off and add extra bills to their cup , I had no choice but to pay as i knew this bar had ''connections'' and there isn't much you can do about it.
The bars don't make a lot of money from the girls , only the drinks bought and the barfine , the real money to be made is to the bargirl herself.

So i am not surprised to hear you story and it just goes to show how something so inncoent can ignite so quickly , It makes me angry too that they get funny about your choice to drink and in my opinion they should be glad of any custom they get wether or not it's a guy buying one drink or another guy spreading his wealth.

The best thing you can do for the future is stick to bars like Mai thai , Love bar, Bunny bar & Playschool Agogo as you know they are all owned by people present on this forum , all are good guys and won't treat you like this. I'm sure they would welcome your custom even if you choose to drink 2 cokes.

I hate to slag people off but i think certain bars are greedier then other from the observations iv'e made , these seem to be bars not owned by farang and that's all i'm going to say on the matter.

Hope you have a better time on your next tour :cheers: :cheers:

 

[jeremyfairchild]

Mr. Floatplane,

If it's not too much bother, I would appreciate to know the name of the bar which treated you in this manner, so that I may avoid frequenting their premises on my next tour of Patong. Sharing this information would be a service to toher BMs, as well, and our avoidance of their establishment would only be their just desserts if it cost them any business.

Your helpfulness in this matter would be greatly appreciated!

JayBee

 

[Cat Litter Man]

It is not all that uncommon for customers to sit and just drink coke or juice or even water. I dont have a problem with this, but in all fairness during busy times we are always having customers walk in and walk out due to there being no where to sit. Just a courtesy, I would like to ask all BM's if your sitting in a bar, any bar by yourself, and it is busy try and occupy a seat where your not going to stop a group of 2 or 3 to sit down.

Its not that your custom is not wanted or appreciated, its just so that the girls can get customers in and keep the wheels turning.

On the subject of bill padding, I can guarrentee you that you will never experience this in Playschool. As I have send previously, if you do ever have a problem in a bar, seek out the owner/manager and have a chat about it. Most, I repeat most, are only too happy to hear your concerns. But please bear in mind, we do hear all sorts of crap.

 

[Caryn]

Oh I think it is worse then that! I once was in "playschool", honestely was a bit dissapointed after what I saw in Patpong in Bangkok.

A very nervous, anxcious guy came in. He ordered a "soda", but did NOT wanted to be seated. When the girl got his drink, you could obvious see, he was not very happy and anxious. I don't know why I noticed, because a lovely girl came to talk to me! But...before the girl came with his drink, he just went out as he had to catch the train!

Now I wonder, what happened to the drink! :what:

 

[Jerome-092]

I see guys walk in, stand there look around and then wallk out. I would love to know what is going through their minds. You have to be a little suspicious of guys standing near the door, as there have been cases of cameras being pulled out and quick pics taken.

Not that we in Playschool have anything to worry about, as we never show, but it is extremely easy to doctor pics these days. Bars have been closed down as pics taken by farang being given to the police.

 

[Andy M]

It is nice to know that there are bars where we know we will get a fair shake, good treatment, and not too much pressure to empty our wallets. Thanks to Playschool, MTB, Love Bar and Bunny Bar. We have all been ripped off by having our bill padded once in a while. It is not worth hassling over, but just the same I appreciate fair treatment. So I think it is good for us here at the Board to applaud the good guys and expose the culprits.

By doing so we are just helping to enforce the law of kharma, which will work with or without us, but it doesn't hurt to be a part of it, and help our fellow BMs out in the process. Tham dii, dai dee. Tham chua, dai chua. Thank you , Buddha. Or as I think JC or somebody else said, "What you sow, so shall you reap."

 

[heather06]

Or as I think JC or somebody else said, "What you sow, so shall you reap." [/QUOTE]

I thought it was Lou Reed.

Seriously though, I've always had a bit of a thing about drinking etiquette. As stevem says, I think drinkers on their own should have the sense not to hog a whole table, especially in a busy place.

And if you don't drink and you genuinely only want a couple of cokes, fair enough. But it winds me up to see someone sit all night without putting their hand in their pocket, because they only want to check out the action. Just seems unfair. As JC really did say, 'take not the piss out of thine brother, lest thine brother take the piss out of thee.' Here endeth the sermon.

 

[LSD]

Actually, I think what Lou Reed said was:

When the needle hits my vein
I'm a little bit insane
Then I'm rushin' on a run
And I feel like Jesus's son