Back Pain in tandem with Impinged Nerve, T4/T5

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Hullo,

I've been looking for a forum like this for a little while. I wanted to write-up the details of my situation and see if the power of the Internet could help me out. I've been in 'the system', the medical system since June 2007 with my problem, and to say I'm frustrated is an understatement, but I will try not to let my barely concealed rage shine through here... trust me!

You'll also have to bear with me while I 'tell my story'... sorry. If you get to the end do give yourself a gold star though.

I've always been a little overweight... just beyond stocky, but more or a rugby player than a true couch potato. I'm currently 33 and in early June 2007 I was on a foreign trip and I was looking all around with great interest while touring, and I stepped off a kerb... the height obviously took me by surprise and I slammed down on the heel of my left foot. It hurt. It really hurt in the back... so much so that I had to spend two of the remaining days lying down in the hotel. Most disappointing.

Anyway, after a week or so back at home, I decided to go to my GP as the back pain was still there, and really didn't seem to be improving. I was a bit surprised by this as I've always been pretty hardy and any physical issues have usually sorted themselves out... so I hardly ever spent much time at the doc's.

Anyway, I went to the GP and she checked my ribs and told me I needed to lose a bit of weight and also said that there was "no silver bullet for back pain" and how long it might last "would be as long as a piece of string". Ah... I wasn't happy, but what can you do?

I carried on.

Then, in the middle of August 2007, I was walking through Sheffield city centre (quite small and level) from where I had parked the car to my office - about 10 minutes. As I walked I got this amazing pain in my chest - towards the left breast... amazing pain, like a stitch but rather worse. I pushed through it and got to the office, sat down in my chair and it disappeared for the rest of the day.

On the walk back to the car, it came back - it was really bad. I was sweating and every 10 metres or so I had to either sit down or bend over with my hands on my knees - it was really embarrassing 'cos it was hometime for everyone and I was in full view.

I got home... and it was OK.

The following day, a Thursday, I did the same journey and it started the same - as I walked through Sheffield city centre it came on, but when I got to the office this time it didn't go away completely - I could feel it. The journey at the end of that day - to the car - was the worst ever. I got to the car via the back streets in Sheffield city centre 'cos I thought I was gonna die and I didn't want to do it in public! Stupid, I know!

On Friday I made a point of working from home. I sat at home and worked on my computer and, mostly, everything was fine.

That weekend I did the same... basically I relaxed and did nothing. The pain didn't seem to come on, I was getting confident again.

On Monday, I went back to work in the office and it was back. I was starting to panic about this now and I booked myself in to see the GP on Tuesday evening. Tuesday I spent at home in bed.

On Tuesday I went back to the GP. I was given some GTN spray(?) nitro-glycerin stuff under the tongue... but the pain did not go away, but I told my GP it did if I slouched in my chair! How strange.

Anyway, she admitted me to the Emergency Admissions Unit at Sheffield Hallamshire right there and then. I got there and couldn't walk up from the car park to the EAU... just so much pain and a bit of worry.

I stayed in overnight. I had many ECGs at rest throughout the night, I was tested for a variety of things, including (I believe) blood sugars, LFTs and I had some x-rays at about 02:00 in the morning. In the morning, on rounds, the Consultant prodded and poked me around the left-breast and reassured me that it didn't sound like my heart.

Thank-you!

But, to be sure, he set me up for a load of follow-on tests. At that point I decided to use my company health insurance to get into the private system... aiming to speed things up a bit, I guess.

Through 2007 and 2008 I have had...Further ECGs.Stress ECG - on a treadmill - this told me it was not my heart.Ultrasound of heart - normal.Ultrasound of abdomen - normal.LFTs or further blood tests (3 times) - normal.Cholesterol and Diabetes tested normal.Gastroscopy - tube down my throat - normal.Manometry - tubes down nose, swallow water - normal.MRI......as you might imagine, the MRI was left until the last... I had that and was taken through the images. Basically, they looked pretty normal but there was the potential for nerve impingement or obstruction between T4 / T5. This fit with the chest pain I was experiencing as the nerve goes from the spine around there, apparently.

As soon as I was told this wasn't my heart - my mood lifted - and I just started pushing on through the pain. It was bad pain, sometimes it really, really hurt and make me gasp for breath, but I didn't care 'cos I knew I wasn't about to have a heart atttack - which was the big ghoulie I was fearful of.

The Consultant Neurosurgeon chappie I saw said that my options were either painkillers... or surgery. And he said he didn't want to do surgery. I'm glad! He said it was high risk and (he was Austrian I think) he really said: "ze knife is not ze answer here". I was OK with that, but I didn't want painkillers either, so I just carried on.

However, in late 2008, my back pain started to become more pronounced. I was experiencing lower back pain across my entire back. I was especially feeling some real pain in my left trunk (towards the back) midway up my upper body - mostly when I moved around in bed when reading books. I was also experiencing a lot of reflux - something which I had never, ever had in my life. On top of that, I have the odd click and pop from my waist area (very loud) when I move from a sitting position to standing - again, something I have never had before and it is very disconcerting.

Back to the GP, back into the private system... recommended to go see a guy at a Pain Clinic - an Anaesthetist - who took a look at me, said I was "asymmetrical" and passed me on for Physio..

I have been doing Physio. for about 7 weeks now. Some things are positive. With a variety of guided exercises (sitting in a chair and bending over to touch my toes) I think the lower back pain is getting less noticeable. The Physio. has me doing twists and arm raises as well - in an effort to improve the left pain.

He is convinced there is nothing wrong with me - mechanically, no disc issue or anything, no weak back. He says I have just trained myself over the last 15 years to slouch at a desk - while working the computer - the issues I have now have come from the stepping off the kerb but that could have happened anywhere, anytime and anyhow. Over the last two years I have probably been overcompensating with my posture to protect the area I damaged in that incident... which probably brought the chest pain on - all about posture.

I don't disagree. However, after 7 weeks of sessions and exercise, the pain in the left side of my trunk (towards the back) is not improving at all - not like I might say my lower back has done.

Add to that the fact that I can feel a small lump around that area and I get concerned it is not something that can just be fixed with rotations. The Anaesthetist and the Physio. both agree that the lump is a bit of fatty gristle... but I wonder whether it is interfering with my movements and somehow pulling on something when I move.

The pain here often comes on when I am lying down in bed reading and try to move, using my legs to assist me - or when I'm getting into the car and am lowering myself into the seat. I wonder what I can do about this... should I be asking for someone to take a proper look and seeing if it should be removed, or if it is a hernia or something? I don't know anything, and that's the main issue.

Add to this - nothing has had any effect on my chest pain over all this time! That nerve is still impinged around T4 / T5 and while I accept that it is the back pain that is having the negative impact on my day-to-day life, I find that good health is sadly becoming an old memory for me. Is there something I can have / take / do to help here - or is my only real option either painkillers or surgery... surgery I am not going to go for, by the way.

Phew! Sorry! I do sincerely appreciate any advice and any similar stories.

I have probably gone and helped myself to a bout of RSI after this entry.

Cheers, DpM
 
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    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Monica ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Wendy ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  32. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Coco , Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  33. KSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: CICI, HELEN, YOYO & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ CICI is a slim 110 Lbs & pretty 23 years โ€œMust Tryโ€ honey, with all menus available. HELEN stands 5โ€™3โ€ & weighs 110 Lbs, with nice 34D pillows to comfort you. YOYO is JAPANESE, 21 Yrs, 5โ€™2โ€ & 115 Lbs, with a nice big ass & great service.
  34. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ HANA, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  35. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Ivy โค๏ธ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivyโ€™s good looks
  36. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Sophia and young sweet Yoyo with curve body open mind , pretty GFE Ella and fun Lina 36DD are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  37. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ PAYAL PEARL, MAY, NIMRAT, NINA, ANGELINA, MALIYA, SANA, MONIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Suki and Tiffany Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  39. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, LUNA, TIFFANY & WENDY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. LUNA is New today. Details to follow...
  40. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ SPA: SUMMER & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5โ€™6โ€ & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy.
  41. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  42. ASPA:
    SATUR๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny and best massage Rachel. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธMAGGIE & NANA. Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like.
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Niko & Tracy, *nicole tracy cindy Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Niko is tall, very pretty, and slim with a sexy body, natural C Cups and long nipples.
  45. Tajul Islam:
    how much Per hours rate only sex
  46. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Yoyo, Young Sexy Slim Chinese Emma, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Jessica and Mia Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available Today
  48. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have amazing girls today ๐ŸŒธ HELLEN, MONIKA, NINA, AMANDA, AAVI, ANGELINA, ANAYA, SANA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  49. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl Angel๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility with Victoria- Exotic beauty with great...
  50. KSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: HELEN, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HELEN is a pretty Chinese babe, 24, 5โ€™3โ€ & 115 Lbs, can provide good services. SUKI is 23, 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body. CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5โ€™3โ€ sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares
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