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Hello Folks,

Please could someone answer the following questions

1) I'm coming to Phuket early Nov and have been several times a friend has mentioned that if I was to indulge..lol you first need to see the BG's card ? could someone please advise on that one.

2) I was last there March 09 and it took me a few hours to source a motorbike without giving my passport, I gave them photo copys of PP/DL and that was in Karon so does anyone know where I can get one in Patong and any related advice with that please.

3) Does anyone have any experience of the Expat Hotel and are they BG friendly ?

I think that's enough for now thanks for your time.

Regards

Jerseyboy
 
a BG card is her Thai identity card....it says how old she is....not that this will help you as it is all in Thai and years are different here....the hotel will check it (some only if you ask) but if she looks too young she may well just be

as for scooters pm LiL or Briofos they both rent out bikes

expat definitely BG friendly and well located for nightlife
 
It is possible that the OP is referring to a "health check" card.

A mythical program whereby the BG's are supposed to receive a monthly check-up for STD's. and have it stamped on a card of some sort. The program may even be listed as some obscure law, if memory serves.

Never seen in implemented in earnest though.

SUIT UP!
 
not true, the dob on the id card is in the thai calender and ALSO the falang calender,so you will be able tell how old s/he is.
 
Thanks Guys, I think Pablo hit the nail on the head (health check) thats what i was meaning.
 
Hello mate,

Where do i find Briofos or Lil ? and is it normal to offer up your passport last time i went to half a dozen places and they were adamant, don't get me wrong if i damaged anything i would pay for it but surely only a fool would part with there PP ??
 
never seen such a thing as a Health Card for BGs in Thailand

BTW age on ID cards depends on the generation of the card...as Snowy points out the birth date is in both Thai and English (on the newer smart ones)

BMs Briofos and LivinLos can be contacted via PM function of this board....both I am sure will not need your Passport and can deliver to you at a convenient point
 
should be the pink one. been showed that one quite a few times, without even ask for it
 
Yes the pink card ,pussy check every month , blood every three months cost 80 baht. Not a myth and some bars have a no card no job policy. Doesn't mean a whole lot but hey its better than nothing.
 
You can't have been looking too hard. They "should" all have one.
It used to be that the bar owner was responsible to make sure that a girl with a discovered STD did not go bar fine.

The problem with that is that those girls would become "hunters" (the nice girl you meet in the shopping mall).

They used to have room on the card so that the doctor could add each visit but most girls "lost" the card each time so they could show the new boyfriend a card with only one entry and pretend they had just started in the bar trade last week.
Yeh sure.
Kenny
 
Incorrect as a failsafe, it shows whether male or female, but this can be selected by the bearer when being issued or re-issued, irrespective of original or current gender.
 
In all my time living here (+ 30 or more years before that of visiting for extended periods) I have never asked for one...never been offered one and never seen one...IMHO they are not worth the paper they are written on as the system has largely been abused/ignored...anyone going on the "pink slip" as proof of a girl being disease free should think again
 
Never heard of it being the bar owners responsibility ( was a bar owner), the bar sells drinks not sex thus no requirement for ensuring staff dont have STD's, selling sex is illegal in Thailand. BF's are compensation for potential lost revenue due to the girl leaving the bar and not being available to serve or receive LD's

I've seen the cards for health checks but never administered by my bar for the reasons stated above
 
For obvious reasons that'd be a slippery slope that could (as a barowner) land you in plenty of trouble if one decided to enforce "no card, no job policy"..
 
A small snippet from thefullwiki dot org Prostitution_in_Thailand
The workers receive only two or three days off per month; they are charged a bar fine for any additional day of work they miss, in addition to the loss of pay. Many go-go bars require the women to undergo regular health checks, enforced by financial penalties. In Soi Cowboy one popular bar requires their girls to have a health check every month and if they fail to do so, their salary will be cut by 1,000 baht.
"

I personally have seen dozens of these cards (in Pattaya and BKK) but while I said "used to" it seems it still happens.

Kenny (By the way I think "EWR" or "Early Work Release" is the politically correct term these days).
 
Why do people think what is written down on any Wiki site is true???

I just cant fanthom why people take it as gospel, as it could of been anyone who has written it!

Im sure the present and past bar owners have all different ways of running their bars. So why does one example of a bar make it true across the board. I seem to remember that Trents bar had great pay/conditions for his staff. But does that mean I should write that down as an example of how bars in Thailand work?????????

I go as far as ignoring any quote from a Wiki site as evidence because 9 times out of 10 it going to be wrong at some level.
 
To be 100% fair, check the wiki for an introduction, check the citations for the facts. Most of the better Wikipedia articles are well cited but still, the chances of "Prostitution in Thailand" being accurate are pretty low.

Still, if I wanted to know the birth place of Mario Andretti, Wikipedia's a fairly safe bet. All about having a well tuned BS filter in place.

Fun fact, one of the biggest Wikipedia edit wars was over cats, the disagreement on whether a cat owner should be called an "Owner", "Caregiver" or "Human companion". It was more debated then climate change.
 
In the case of this forum subject, I know that some bars insist on health cards and as another member did not believe it I offered this site as additional argument.

But then another member says ["In all my time living here (+ 30 or more years before that of visiting for extended periods) I have never asked for one...never been offered one and never seen one"
But then adds "IMHO they are not worth the paper they are written on as the system has largely been abused/ignored"

Kenny
Hey wait up. Are there health cards or not????
 
Yes, thank you! I don't believe a fcuking thing I read that's quoted, cited, or copied and pasted from anything with a "wiki" in it!


Except possibly for such things like this as you say. And even then I'm still skeptical, but a fairly safe bet for stuff like that I suppose.

Too many wiki-geniuses around these days. They must hand out PHD's after so many cut & pastes. 555 Sorry, but I just don't trust 'em.

As Mother Nam Pla always told me, "Believe only half of what you see and nothing of what you hear!"
 
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