AB and SG info plz

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What place has a salida fee? None of the places I've frequented in TJ have that. You pay the girl for her time and the hotel for the room. The bar gets money if there's drinks involved.

The sooner you get your game face the sooner you'll be in control of the situation. Girls can read you like a book. If they think they run up the tab with extras they will. They're like car salesmen adding rust protectant and special floor mats. It takes willpower since they're the ones with the panocha you want. You'll get better with practice and know the games they're playing.

[one of the common get to know you questions the girl will ask is either 'is this your first time here?' or 'how often do you come here?' If they ask the 'is this the first time' question they read you as a newb. If it is 'how often' they're still thinking you're a rookie. Even if you've never been somewhere you tell them you've been there before. If they quote you a higher amount than you read about here say "I've always paid $x" --- then decide if she sticks to her price if you are willing to pay more. The other part comes automatically with repeat visits. The more you walk into the bar the more swagger you'll get and they girls will know it isn't your first rodeo]
 
Just got back from TJ, Stacy was very willing to please in a no-rush session. asked $60, i had pesos on me so i said 700 pesos to get rid of the pesos i had.
ya wasn't really bargaining but was in a hurry and horny as fuck.
 
Wow! Thanks for your perspective on this matter gentlemen. What I meant by "feel her puss" was that for the extra $20 she would let me rub and play with her pussy and even DATY, (not my thing). I did not hesitate on her higher that average fee because I had cruised HK and AB for an hour and there were nothing but 5's and 6's. I think because it was before noon the selection was'nt so good. She had just barely walked past the curtains when I jumped all over that thang while she was still fresh and I did not want any other guy snatching her.
Seems like every time I go tho AB, HK or the alley I always learn the girls' tricks the hard way. On one occasion, I negotiated every thing I wanted down to the smallest detail while at the bar. On our way out just 5 feet of the exit she turns around and demands $20. to pay her exiting fee. I guess I have no game face and they know I have my mind set on fucking them and my dick wont let me say no at that point. On another instance, I was about to negotiate with this one chica and she casually tells me to sit and in the wink of an eye she had signaled a waiter to bring us two drinks at $8 a pop.

I know I'm being taken advaneforum.xxxe of but in the end, they are the ones getting the Tatas4me shaft.
 
Well I will admit I haven't had an AB girl( fucked her) in over a year, because I don't like AB chicas, although I drink in there occasionally. HK is turning into a AB type bar, and there asking prices are even higher than AB, but the girls I been with in HK are usually pretty good at accepting pesos.

I have had a few smart chicas tell me, when the peso was pretty low to the dollar, you know what your really doing is offering me $13 dollars instead of $20 dollars, so if you give me 600 pesos that's less than $40 dollars, and then they quote me an outrageous peso price, and then I say, hey how bout if I just give you dollars? ( that was in Bar Tropical)

But in BT or LC I haven't had many chicas turn down my 600 peso offer, and almost all of them will take 700 pesos. Sadly, I had a few try to stick to their guns of $70 dollars, but those girls don't get another drink, and end up shaking hands with me, and I thank them for spending a few moments with me. ( some times I forget to exchange my money, and just use dollars)

I get the feeling that chicas that stick to their guns, and don't bargain at all, probably really didn't want to go upstairs in the first place and will only go if you meet all their demands. ( could be they find me repulsive and really is glad when their isn't a meeting of the minds?)
 
Every girl that I met in AB and HK that wanted $60 would laugh at 600 pesos and want 700. Then again, I'm there at night and so during the day shift there might be better for bargains.

This "since we're still in a recession" doesn't resonate with them and why should it. You're already in their bar and made the trip. And if you were so concerned about costs there are always plenty of girls in the alley that will charge much less. Many girls will stick to their price floor even if it means turning away business. And with fewer true hotties in Hottie Central they don't need to offer "sales" on their panocha.

Regarding the VIP treatment, that is a new one on me. To me the price quoted downstairs in the bar is the final price. Since tatas4me already was paying $70 he should have gotten the VIP upgrade. Then again, I'm not sure what 'feel her puss' is supposed to mean. Fingers? Tongue? BB? In general, I'll only stab the girl with my verga and leave my fingers out of it. And considering the cleanup most girls do in the sink after a session, I'm not going to go down on her (I love DATY but I'll do that with girlfriends, not AB girls -- except on super rare occassions).

But ultimately, like FB says the important thing is that you enjoyed yourself. If you paid a little more than average and fell for a chica's sales pitch, that's OK in the long run. No one wants to get ripped off, but for what you paid, you had a good time and it didn't break the bank. People have paid a lot more for less.

Some guys are so intent on getting the best price possible I wonder if they really are in it for the sex or the bargaining session.
 
Wanted the VIP? Yeah that sounds bad, just about anytime a chica hits you up for extra money, it's usually a bad thing, and maybe a good time to walk out.

The problem is you paid first, so she already has you, and you just about have to give her the extra $20 bucks if you want any kind of decent service.

I sometimes still pay first, but I'm just about at a point now, if a chica wants the money up front I tell her to take a hike, and just go downstairs and get another chica, and just tell the hotel it didn't work out, and they always let me bring somebody else to the room later. ( If I picked that chica, and she told me about that VIP service, and I didn't pay first, I would have told her to get out of my room! Unless of course that VIP service included at least a BBBJ, DATY, and anal sex)

But it sounds like you got decent service, so that's all that counts. But she isn't suppose to rush you in the first place, but sadly in AB many girls rush you.

If you wanted to save money, you could have counted offered at $50 dollars, since we are still in a recession a girl would be crazy to refuse, although she might settle for $60 dollars, and if you really wanted to save money you could negotiate in peso, as I bet she would go for 600 pesos which is about $47 dollars...even at 700 pesos is only about $55 dollars.
 
Feel her puss? Confused... Does that mean BB or Fingering her?

GFE to me has always included DFK & a bbbj

Never heard of the VIP up sell in the past? but personally i like specifics b4 going upstairs.


The main thing is you enjoyed yourself no matter what you spent, and that's the bottom line:)

Firm
 
I was down in TJ on saturday and headed straight to AB. I decided to pass up the sg's in the alley cause experience taught me that you get what you pay for. Sure I'd gotten laid for as little as $15 plus $5 for the room but boy, talk about no gfe and what's worse, you fork out the extra $5 or $10 to get her completely nude then you want to pay her more to put her clothes back on. Anywho, in AB I nabbed Paola just as she came in for her shift at about 11:00 am and she asked for $70. OK, maybe $10 higher thatn the norm but let me tell you she is freeeeking HOT!!! I made sure she understood I wanted to get a CBJ then several positions and finish off with another cbj. She agreed but once in the room she asked if I wanted the VIP. I was like VIP? Never heard that marketing strategy. She told me that for an extra $20 she would let me feel her puss and she would go the extra mile and not rush me, what in my mind amounted to GFE. I typically tip the girls $10 and up to $20 for going the extra mile so I though this was like asurance for her to get the tip she was looking to het and for me to make sure I got the extra attention that makes the whole experience worthwile. Can one of the more seasoned mongers tell me if this makes sense or did I just get taken cause I was horny? By the way, she did do GFE and I left very much satisfied!
 
Typically 15 to 20 minutes but you can negotiate longer.
 
No it's not standard a fuck and suck for $20 dollars, or 200 pesos which is the better deal.

Standard or it use to be standard, as SGs are getting better now as far as service is concerned is:

For $20 dollars( 200 pesos) a fuck only, one position( missionary) and she'll only pull down her pants, and leave her top on, and some girls use to just take out one leg pants.( they mostly leave their shoes on)

Then what happens you have to negotiate the others things like BJ, and different positions which they sometimes start off as high as $10 dollars, but they always settle for $5 dollars, so a typical session with a BJ and at least two positions and naked will run you $35 dollars.

Or you can ask her for an all inclusive offer before for those three things for $30 dollars or 300 pesos.

I been noticing that most SGs are willing to get naked and a fuck for 200 pesos, and ever are doing more positions for the $20 dollars, but will most likely charge you extra for a BJ between $5 and $10 dollars.

So you really have to negotiate everything before you take them to the room.
 
Is the standard fuck n suck naked included, or do you separately negotiate each act and is sin ropa the norm? Sometimes, I've had to pay a bit extra to get her to go naked. What's the norm for TJ SGs?

TIA
 
Yes that's absolutely dishonest, if you negotiate in dollars pay in dollars.

If you negotiate in pesos pay in pesos.
 
Almost all Street girls will take 200 pesos, which equates to around $16, where as if you negotiate 600 pesos with a Bar girl you are around $46 at the current conversion of near 13:1.

I do believe if you want to save money in pesos, that you should negotiate pesos....I know there are guys that negotiate $60 and then pay 600 pesos and that is just plain dishonest.
 
Eating at KFC before feasting at the Sizzler?
 
AB = $60 chica $12 room $1 towel boy tip

SG = $20-$30 chica (A la carte style sex) $5 room


SG's are on the block behind AD

Use SG as an appetizer, And a AD girl as the main course.


Firm
 
I'm planning on hanging out one day in the near future. Usually I would partake of Sampson's offerings but this time is about beer drinking w friends. Can I get a quick refresher on AB girls (prices and recommendations) and where exactly the SGs are in relation to AB and the going rates.
 
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    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Sunday May 18, 2025, our attendants will be Vicky ๐Ÿฅฐ, Ada ๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜˜ and Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  31. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒ. 4young beautiful girls working everyday(open long weekend),Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work.more experience ,๐Ÿ…nice Vietnamese Amy is very good looking,big breasted sweet smile,open maid,everything she can provide,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ
  32. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Saturday๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Cici, Yoyo, Amber, Juliet, GFE Eva,Echo,๐Ÿ†•Julia, Lucy, Akino & Jennyโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - Your Black Friday Bliss is Here!๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. Spa in Markham:
    โšœ๏ธ Golden Flower Spa (Unionville) ๐Ÿ“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6, Unionville, ON ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ’‹ Hot bodies โ€“ skilled hands โ€“ elite service ๐Ÿ”ฅ Classy, seductive & fully satisfying ๐Ÿ“… Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ”— Booking: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  34. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    ๐Ÿ BlueXado Spa (Vaughan) ๐Ÿ“ 1102 Centre St, Unit 6, Vaughan, ON ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ’ฆ Clothes off โ€“ mind off โ€“ just relax ๐ŸŒ€ Young beauties, deep care, unique vibe ๐Ÿ“… Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ”— Booking: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  35. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    ๐Ÿฆฉ Pink Flower Spa (Scarborough) ๐Ÿ“ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit A8, Scarborough, ON ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ’— Sweet, gentle, feminine touch you'll love ๐ŸŒธ Soft hands, beautiful smiles, total care ๐Ÿ“… Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ”— Booking: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  36. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  37. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCandy๐ŸŒธMelissa๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธAmber๐ŸŒธMonika Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  38. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐Ÿ”ฅReady for a fantastic time?๐Ÿ”ฅ Today (Saturday), our amazing attendants are Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Ivy ๐Ÿค—, Opal ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  40. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทBella 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธAnnaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sexy girl Suki deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  43. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ AMMU, JANVI, MONIKA, SASHA, JOEY, BELA, MIMI, SALMA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Sara, Tracy & Cindy. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & MAGGIE. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E)
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs
  47. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  48. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒ. 4young beautiful girls working everyday(open long weekend),Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work.more experience ,๐Ÿ…nice Vietnamese Amy is very good looking,big breasted sweet smile,open maid,everything she can provide,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ
  49. SpringGreen.:
    The weeked is here .New spanish tina๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny miya,angel and tina are available today.These busty attractive girls provide a high level of service with a smile. call and text message ask questions thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹647-891-0699 call and text quentions thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open mind and young cute Kitty 26โ€™s with curve body open mind, young flirty Yoyo with 36DD curve body open mind 30โ€™s and nice GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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