She is swati from kharghar...operate as indie too
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Independent Girls in Mumbai
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Your PM is disabled?
Pushpita from Mira road seems desperate for money. Guys who have her number should try to strike a good deal
Nope it is not
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Can you share how much can be negotiated?
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Yes it's habits but also all depends on person to persons budget if he can afford..
Anyway nice FR and please mention damages and last four digits too always.
Keep banging and keep posting but try reducing visits as much as you can to save hard earned money..
Good luck for your next deal
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Anyway nice FR and please mention damages and last four digits too always.
Keep banging and keep posting but try reducing visits as much as you can to save hard earned money..
Good luck for your next deal
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I’m not able to se the option “start a conversation” can you please PM me
She insists on 5k for two pops
Upto u to strike a deal
Perfect Bhai and fully agree with you.
Great advice bro,
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Great advice bro,
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I think u talking abt pushpanjali...specs girl..into sports..
She is awesome in service ..had spent night with her
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Can you share her number in PM as your pm is not working. thanks
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No idea ..but Would love to join instead if any F gets ready
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In Grant Road near opera house lots of active places, where the girls are ok with threesome. Rooms are nice with AC and attached bathroom. You can check this easy to do option.
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Even one of my frnd is ready but I'm still convecing her for it !
Also gotta 2 leads in 3some forum but didn't get active response from them !!!
Check your pm man
Ill give u good one...
Try for cindy kurla...
Ull get positive response
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- Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
10th , FRIDAY
(905) 707-6866 
Open 10:30-10:00🗺#33-160 East Beaver Creek 🗺 7 Rms 🛏Table Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, $40/50/60 for 30/45/60min Attendants: We have 
today 
DAISY SOPHIE KYLIE LILIAN OLIVIA LUCY NEWSFLASH OLIVIA & ERICA & DAISY & KYLIE & SOPHIE ‘ s BACK TODAY - Endless Joy Spa:
[GRAND OPENING] 
Endless Joy Spa 
(155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565Young Fit Curvy Latina Karen(3pm-11pm),Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel & Young Sexy Chinese Abie. 6 Young Sexy Girls at your service today - Moneylee:
All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,
address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E24376655510 
️️
- Moneylee:
Full season wellness center: New Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage poker, Young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 14379857899 ️️
- Sparkling Spa:
SPARKLING SPA INTERNATIONAL TITTY THURSDAY!!!! MUI CALIENTE STELLA 32D, AND ALIYAH 32 DD!!! BIG MELONS FOR BIGGER APPETITES!!!!(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
- Endless Joy Spa:
[GRAND OPENING] Endless Joy Spa (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565Young Fit Curvy Latina Karen(3pm-11pm),Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel & Young Sexy Chinese Abie. 6 Young Sexy Girls at your service today
- SpringGreen.:
Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Thursday：New Polish gril gigi
Vittoria- Sweet school girl with a large serving of naughtiness Angela- Slim beauty with long legs and nice proportions Julia- Exotic... - bnwellness_wilson:
Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Japanese Lily and young pretty Sally. Sexy Coco and GFE cute Ivy with curve body are providing deep tissue and sensual massage. Pls call 416-398577 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
- Lily Spa:
KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs Lily Spa 2190 McNicoll Scarborough M1V 5M2 (647) 531-8288 - Jenny’s Spa:
JENNY’S SPA 
5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST 
ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4 (647-893-5196)Call or Text (437-888-3759)Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 
GRAND OPENING
NEW GIRLS EVERYDAYEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS
TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAYREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong - Sparkling Spa:
SPARKLING SPA INTERNATIONAL TITTY THURSDAY!!!! MUI CALIENTE STELLA 32D, AND ALIYAH 32 DD!!! BIG MELONS FOR BIGGER APPETITES!!!!(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR U
- Lulu1980:
Phoenix blossom Spa
every day have 3 girls New girl Vicy.Jenny.Cici so sexy very good table shower body scrub.body slide 5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke 416-817 -3366 - Annie Spa:
ANNIE SPA 7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6 (437) 818-8896 (416) 291-8879 (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY NEW MANAGEMENTNEW GIRLS GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: CiciA very beautiful and sexy little fangirl, she has a sexy and petite figure, Cici service is first-class, worth having and trying, she belongs to the elite
She is very friendly, very cute and exquisite little model!!
Suki
is bea - Dreaminn:
THURSDAY at
𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔: EVA, KELLY & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 EVA is a slim, pretty & sexy Asian girl. She has excellent bbbj skills if you are nice and clean, and can perform like a champion. KELLY is a young & pretty Asian girl, very slim model figure, 5’3” with unreal bbbj skills & very liberal services. - SunriseRH:
THURSDAY at SUNRISE SPA: LULU, MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on 647-325-8086 LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5’2” & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is a sweet Asian babe, 5’3”
- NewOriental:
THURSDAY at
NEW ORIENTAL SPA: EMMA, HAPPY & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on 647-381-2688 EMMA is a young & pretty Chinese babe with very liberal services. HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5’4” and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets and very open minded. - GoldenFlower:
THURSDAY at
GOLDEN FLOWER SPA , 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Jojo, Mimi, Sherry & Tracy. Jojo is a beautiful young fair skinned Hong Kong girl who can melt all your cares away. Mimi is young honey who can rock your world. Sherry is an attractive slim Asian sweetie. - Endless Joy Spa:
[GRAND OPENING] Endless Joy Spa (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565Young Fit Curvy Latina Karen(3pm-11pm),Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel & Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
- ASPA:
𝗧𝗛𝗨𝗥𝗦𝗗𝗔𝗬𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Fox, Coco & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹[/color]
𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲 FOX is 26 years old with 34C’s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience. - HolidaySpa:
Thursday at
𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵Cindy & Jenny. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curved with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. - ForeverWarden:
Thursday at
𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Sofia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. - Moon&beauty:
MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 /Good service Cuban girl Mimi and Asian girl (Anna) in today girl (
- Peony Garden Spa:
3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY NEW GIRL TAYLOR: A YOUNG WHITE BLONDE GIRL THAT IS REALLY FUN AND INCREDIBLY BUSTY SELINA: A TALL AND YOUNG ASIAN GIRL THAT IS VERY FRIENDLY AND ABLE TO PROVIDE AN RMT LIKE MASSAGE ELLA: A PETITE YOUNG CHINESE GIRL THAT IS A POPULAR FAVOURITE PEONY GARDEN SPA 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 (416) 335-6093 - Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
ℍ𝔸ℙℙ𝕐 𝕄𝔸𝕐 MAY 9th , THURSDAY (905) 707-6866 Open 10:30-10:00🗺#33-160 East Beaver Creek 🗺 7 Rms 🛏Table Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, $40/50/60 for 30/45/60min Attendants: We have 
today DAISY SOPHIE RICA ERICA LUCY NEWSFLASH RICA & ERICA & DAISY & SOPHIE ‘ s BACK TODAY - bumika.vashi:
(((आपको बिना नाटक या नखरे करने वाला सर्विस चाहे तोह याद करना. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to
- Red Rose Spa:
We have 5 hot brown girls today MALIYA, TRACY, ANGEL, PAYAL PEARL, ANAYA, AAVI 2588 Birchmount 2 Invergordon 647-702-8800 Please visit for a great erotic massage
- Lulu1980:
Phoenix blossom Spaevery day 3 girls Coco ,Jessica,Cici so sexy girl table shower body scrub very good service for you 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke 416-817-3366
- Lily Spa:
KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs Lily Spa 2190 McNicoll Scarborough M1V 5M2 (647) 531-8288
- SpringGreen.:
Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699 Today we have 5 girls on wednesday： New Polish gir sasaangel- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility CiCi- Exotic beauty with great service and...
- Jenny’s Spa:
JENNY’S SPA 5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4 (647-893-5196)Call or Text (437-888-3759)Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY GRAND OPENINGNEW GIRLS EVERYDAYEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAYREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco- A young cute blonde Asian girl maki
- Annie Spa:
ANNIE SPA 7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6 (437) 818-8896 (416) 291-8879 (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY NEW MANAGEMENTNEW GIRLS GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Pinky Brand new Canto girl from Hong Kong, Pinky is short and skinny with a petite frame of an Asian Spinner - only 5 feet and 110 lbs Pinky is a very beautiful young girl with great massage skills and wonderful attitude and personality
- bnwellness_wilson:
Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Mia 25 years old and young fun Yoyo open mind with 36DD, sexy Coco and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome. 350 Wilson Ave North York
- Moon&beauty:
MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian girl and new Asian girl sherry in today
- Moneylee:
All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E24376655510 ️️
- Moneylee:
Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julie ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 4379857899 ️️
- Endless Joy Spa:
[GRAND OPENING] Endless Joy Spa (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel & Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
- Dreaminn:
WEDNESDAY at𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔: EVELYN, FIONA & LULU. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯
- SunriseRH:
WEDNESDAY at SUNRISE SPA: LULU, MICHELLE & SUMMER. Also NEW Girl Lulu after 2pm. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on 647-325-8086 LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5’2” & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered.
- Lulu1980:
Phoenix blossom Spahave Table shower
body scrub Every day 3 girls cici.Jessica sexy body very good body slide. - NewOriental:
WEDNESDAY atNEW ORIENTAL SPA: HAPPY & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on 647-381-2688 HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. VIVIAN is a pretty and very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5’7” tall, with a slim figure. Vivian is very friendly and versatile.
- Peony Garden Spa:
3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY JENNY: A TALL AND SLIM KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN NANCY: A PETITE YOUNG VIETNAMESE GIRL THAT IS VERY FUN AND OPEN MINDED EMILY: A PETITE CURVY THAI MIXED GIRL, NICE LONG HAIR AND SPEAKS FLUENT ENGLISH PEONY GARDEN SPA 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 (416) 335-6093
- GoldenFlower:
WEDNESDAY at GOLDEN FLOWER SPA , 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Elina(to 9pm), Jojo, Kelly(to 9pm) & Linda. After 9pm: Jessi & Sonia Elina(to 9pm) is a tall, slim & beautiful Persian lady with the ability to make you very satisfied. Jojo(to 9pm) is a beautiful young fair skinned Hong Kong girl who can melt all your cares away.
- ASPA:
𝗪𝗘𝗗𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗗𝗔𝗬 at 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Amy, Coco & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲 AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
- HolidaySpa:
Wednesday at𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵Cindy, Kelly & Kiki. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Kelly is slim and attractive with very slight curves, a nice bum, and rockin’ services. Kiki is very attractive
- ForeverWarden:
Wednesday at𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Bella & Sasa. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Bella is around 5’3” with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well
- Sparkling Spa:
SPARKLING SPA WITH NEW GIRLS AND NEW MANAGEMENT HAS SUPER SEXY GIRLS WAITING TO SATISFY YOU!!!(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
- bumika.vashi:
(((आपको बिना नाटक या नखरे करने वाला सर्विस चाहे तोह याद करना. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to
- Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
ℍ𝔸ℙℙ𝕐 𝕄𝔸𝕐 MAY 8th , WEDNESDAY (905) 707-6866 Open 10:30-10:00🗺#33-160 East Beaver Creek 🗺 7 Rms 🛏Table Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, $40/50/60 for 30/45/60min Attendants: We have today TINA SOPHIE RICA HANNAH ERICA LUCY NEWSFLASH RICA & HANNAH & ERICA & TINA & SOPHIE ‘ s BACK TODAY
- Endless Joy Spa:
[GRAND OPENING] Endless Joy Spa (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565New First Day Young Slim Sexy Vietnamese Lisa. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel & Young Sexy Chinese Abie. 6 Young Sexy Girls in right now!
- Moon&beauty:
MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Good service Asian girl Yuki today
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