Poll Do you think the Trump insurrectionists have blown their wad?

[jimmyd]

So why is it such a big deal when an American President or a former President is keeping classified files for? What's the big deal? Those files don't really have an major significant importance anyways right????

What about the inflation? That's more important than some random files..

It’s no big deal that a president has classified documents, unless it’s Trump. Then everyone goes nuts. Now that we know Biden has classified documents, insecurely stored, no one cares again. Even though it is illegal for a vice president to have them.

But, you’re right. We should be concerned about the crazy inflation and so many other more important things.


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[Hornet]

So why is it such a big deal when an American President or a former President is keeping classified files for? What's the big deal? Those files don't really have an major significant importance anyways right????

What about the inflation? That's more important than some random files..

All documents belong to the Government. Specifically the National Archives. So, it’s illegal for anyone to possess them. It doesn’t matter if they were a Congressman, Senator, Vice President or President that had proper security clearance. It doesn’t even matter if they were classified or not even though the right and Republicans tried to deflect saying he declassified them which is bullshit anyway as there are formal processes to declassify documents that ultimately end with the documents having a “declassified” stamp put on them which none of Trump’s documents had.. the point is, nobody can take documents, even a former President. The issues with the confidentiality and secrecy classifications is how much damage it could do or if it puts peoples lives at risk (e.g.CIA field agents).

The key difference between Biden and Trump was that once Biden’s legal team found the documents they immediately called the National Archives to come get them. They fully cooperated. It was the National Archives that then informed the DOJ given the political environment and what is going on with the Trump situation. In Trump’s case, he and his team stalled the National Archives, and it was pulling teeth to get Trump and his team to give over the documents. After asking if all Trump’s documents were returned and his legal team saying “yes” and a subpoena being issued it was found that they were not all returned and it appears Trumps staff tried to move move documents in and out of storage which then kicked off the FBI raid that found more documents. DOJ then appointed a Special Counsel to investigate to determine if Trump should be criminally charged with Obstruction.

There is a whole thread on the subject but I outlined the document timeline in this post
Post in thread 'Trump Says Mar-A-Lago Raided By FBI'
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The other issue is intent. What was Trump’s intent on keeping documents he had no legal right to have?

How declassification works. No Trump cannot declassify just by thinking about it.

Can a President Declassify Documents and How Does the Process Work?

Former President Donald Trump claimed this week that he had the authority to declassify documents just by thinking about it. While presidents have broad authority to declassify material, but there is a detailed process unlike what Trump described. Here's a look at how declassification works.

www.nbcwashington.com

 

[Robert N]

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[snoopdoggie]

So, to be clear, you’re equating losing $300 million over 6 years with losing billions in one year?

Do you know how numbers work?


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Either way he's a loser.

 

[snoopdoggie]

So why is it such a big deal when an American President or a former President is keeping classified files for? What's the big deal? Those files don't really have an major significant importance anyways right????

What about the inflation? That's more important than some random files..

I don't think you want your personal files to get lost and having your Chinese and Russian enemies read everything about you.

 

[snoopdoggie]

The photo on the left wasn't edited in any way FYI

Hunter is just that much of a crack addict.

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There's no way that's the same person.

 

[snoopdoggie]

Weird how gas prices spiked only after Biden became president.


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Sure, it's only wierd to you because you don't understand economics. If you studied economics it wouldn't be so wierd. Everything that someone doesn't understand is always wierd. If you understand how something works, then it all makes sense. You're so similar to a girl who looks under the hood of a car. Everything looks wierd to her, but to me, it's all very simple.

 

[Victor Charlie]

I don't think you want your personal files to get lost and having your Chinese and Russian enemies read everything about you.

I wouldn't want China or Russia to know which porno sites I enjoy browsing @ let alone what you just stated..
China is such a thumb in the nail and Russia too. Wouldn't you agree???

 

[jimmyd]

All documents belong to the Government. Specifically the National Archives. So, it’s illegal for anyone to possess them. It doesn’t matter if they were a Congressman, Senator, Vice President or President that had proper security clearance. It doesn’t even matter if they were classified or not even though the right and Republicans tried to deflect saying he declassified them which is bullshit anyway as there are formal processes to declassify documents that ultimately end with the documents having a “declassified” stamp put on them which none of Trump’s documents had.. the point is, nobody can take documents, even a former President. The issues with the confidentiality and secrecy classifications is how much damage it could do or if it puts peoples lives at risk (e.g.CIA field agents).

The key difference between Biden and Trump was that once Biden’s legal team found the documents they immediately called the National Archives to come get them. They fully cooperated. It was the National Archives that then informed the DOJ given the political environment and what is going on with the Trump situation. In Trump’s case, he and his team stalled the National Archives, and it was pulling teeth to get Trump and his team to give over the documents. After asking if all Trump’s documents were returned and his legal team saying “yes” and a subpoena being issued it was found that they were not all returned and it appears Trumps staff tried to move move documents in and out of storage which then kicked off the FBI raid that found more documents. DOJ then appointed a Special Counsel to investigate to determine if Trump should be criminally charged with Obstruction.

There is a whole thread on the subject but I outlined the document timeline in this post
Post in thread 'Trump Says Mar-A-Lago Raided By FBI'
Chat - Trump Says Mar-A-Lago Raided By FBI
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The other issue is intent. What was Trump’s intent on keeping documents he had no legal right to have?

I love Hornet.com’s efforts to try to make Biden having classified documents as VP not a big deal. Hilarious!


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[jimmyd]

Sure, it's only wierd to you because you don't understand economics. If you studied economics it wouldn't be so wierd. Everything that someone doesn't understand is always wierd. If you understand how something works, then it all makes sense. You're so similar to a girl who looks under the hood of a car. Everything looks wierd to her, but to me, it's all very simple.

You’re right, it’s economics. Biden screwed up the economy, gas prices and inflation went up.

I wonder what reasoning/excuses you’ll use if everything levels out in ‘24 if a Republican takes office.


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[Ninersfan]

All documents belong to the Government. Specifically the National Archives. So, it’s illegal for anyone to possess them. It doesn’t matter if they were a Congressman, Senator, Vice President or President that had proper security clearance. It doesn’t even matter if they were classified or not even though the right and Republicans tried to deflect saying he declassified them which is bullshit anyway as there are formal processes to declassify documents that ultimately end with the documents having a “declassified” stamp put on them which none of Trump’s documents had.. the point is, nobody can take documents, even a former President. The issues with the confidentiality and secrecy classifications is how much damage it could do or if it puts peoples lives at risk (e.g.CIA field agents).

The key difference between Biden and Trump was that once Biden’s legal team found the documents they immediately called the National Archives to come get them. They fully cooperated. It was the National Archives that then informed the DOJ given the political environment and what is going on with the Trump situation. In Trump’s case, he and his team stalled the National Archives, and it was pulling teeth to get Trump and his team to give over the documents. After asking if all Trump’s documents were returned and his legal team saying “yes” and a subpoena being issued it was found that they were not all returned and it appears Trumps staff tried to move move documents in and out of storage which then kicked off the FBI raid that found more documents. DOJ then appointed a Special Counsel to investigate to determine if Trump should be criminally charged with Obstruction.

There is a whole thread on the subject but I outlined the document timeline in this post
Post in thread 'Trump Says Mar-A-Lago Raided By FBI'
Chat - Trump Says Mar-A-Lago Raided By FBI
View attachment 256076

The other issue is intent. What was Trump’s intent on keeping documents he had no legal right to have?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1614673114956464128

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Everyone who isn't a mentally ill leftoid with TDS knows the documents Trump had were *declassified*

Seethe faggot

 

[Ninersfan]

Everyone who isn't a biased liberal pussy like @Hornet can call a spade a spade no matter what side of the political isle someone happens to be on.

The Trump thing is a non-issue. He was president and it's established that a president can declassify documents with a mere word - so - there's no "there" there. On the other hand, A VP as Biden was at the time of his felony cannot do that.

What they need to investigate in regards to Trump's classified documents is who are the jewish goblins at the DOJ that pushed the FBI raid and choose to ignore that the President is the supreme declassification authority within the federal government.

Maybe that's something for the new Weaponization of the Federal Government Committee that pedophile kike Adam Schiff is losing his mind over.

 

[Hornet]

Estate of the late Brian Sicknick is suing Trump for no less than $10M in wrongful death.

Trump sued by estate of Brian Sicknick, Capitol Police officer who died after Jan. 6

The lawsuit was filed after hours on the eve of the two-year anniversary of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

www.courthousenews.com

 

[jimmyd]

Estate of the late Brian Sicknick is suing Trump for no less than $10M in wrongful death.

Trump sued by estate of Brian Sicknick, Capitol Police officer who died after Jan. 6

The lawsuit was filed after hours on the eve of the two-year anniversary of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

www.courthousenews.com

It will be awkward when the videos of his family saying it was a stroke and nothing to do with January 6th are shown in court.


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[jimmyd]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1614673114956464128

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Everyone who isn't a mentally ill leftoid with TDS knows the documents Trump had were *declassified*

Seethe faggot

If CNN told Hornet he’s a woman, he would believe it. He gobbles up everything they say.

It’s hilarious watching him justify Biden having classified documents now, after railing on Trump for months.


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[Ninersfan]

It’s hilarious watching him justify Biden having classified documents now, after railing on Trump for months.

Exactly this. What a despicable biased little rat Hornet is.

 

[Ninersfan]

IT WAS ALL PLANNED: Tactical Commander for US Capitol Police Admits Under Testimony that "Agitators" Who Were "Highly Trained" Ripped Down Fencing Prior to Protest at US Capitol on Jan. 6

IT WAS ALL PLANNED: Tactical Commander for US Capitol Police Admits Under Oath that "Agitators" Who Were "Highly Trained" Ripped Down Fencing Prior to Protest at US Capitol on Jan. 6

We’ve known for two years numerous federal operatives were involved in the January 6, 2021 protests. On Sunday night, Julie Kelly from American Greatness, along with several J6 prisoners, conservatives reporters, j6 family members, and even liberal trolls, joined in the “J6 Truth Exposed”...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

You have to remember the timing of events. This was all done by undercover FBI agents to change narrative (from election fraud) and also to prevent Congress from discussing election fraud. Real ones know.

 

[Hornet]

What to do about George Santos? Well, McCarthy put him on 2 committees: 1) Small Business; 2) Space, Science and Technology. Can that be bad?

Well, when even NewsMax is saying the company George Santos said he worked for is being investigated as being part of a Ponzi scheme, then yeh! Way to go McCarthy, that is the Republicans gay, “Jew-ish” poster boy Sound decision making McCarthy

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/santos-florida-ponzi/2023/01/14/id/1104415/

 

[jimmyd]

What to do about George Santos? Well, McCarthy put him on 2 committees: 1) Small Business; 2) Space, Science and Technology. Can that be bad?

Well, when even NewsMax is saying the company George Santos said he worked for is being investigated as being part of a Ponzi scheme, then yeh! Way to go McCarthy, that is the Republicans gay, “Jew-ish” poster boy Sound decision making McCarthy

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/santos-florida-ponzi/2023/01/14/id/1104415/

He’s a scumbag, but I can’t get too excited about it.

For years Elizabeth Warren said she was Native American.

“Biden has also made numerous false assertions about his educational achievements. He claimed in 1987 that he had “graduated with three degrees from college,” had received an award as “the outstanding student in the political science department,” finished in the “top half” of his class at law school and received a “full academic scholarship.” None of that was true. He received a single B.A. in history and political science, had only been put up for the award by a professor, graduated 76th in a class of 85 from Syracuse College of Law, and had a partial need-based scholarship. After the Supreme Court reversed Roe v. Wade, he claimed to have written “a number of law review articles” on the right to privacy — which was untrue.”

Santos Must Have Learned from Biden How to Make Up Details About His Past

New York Republican George Santos is a fabulist who lied to voters about his family, education and achievements. Incoming House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries (N.Y.) said in a statement that Santos’s many lies make him “woefully unqualified” and “clearly unfit to serve” in Congress. He’s...

www.aei.org

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[Hornet]

Surprised Trump didn’t rank higher. But, you have to waaayyyy down the list to find Obama

Top 10 Biggest Liars in Politics

As any casual observer of the political arena knows, politicians and the truth have often shared a tumultuous relationship. Sometimes, this relationship is so stretched that one has to wonder where the facts end and the fiction begins.

www.thetoptens.com