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Tips have gotten out of control

I would suggest $100 above room fees for anyone willing to ride my pogo stick would be fair and reasonable. I thought someone posted a MPA wanted $80 for a HE. That is just insane.
In what world does the customer decide what its worth for someone to ride their dick? LOL
You claim to own 4 rental Condos in the city. Do you let your tenants tell you how much your units are worth?
This is a free sex market buddy
I was in the states last month.

I was bored one morning and made a mistake by deciding to check out an obvious rub and tug spa down the street from my hotel. I had great luck in the past and thought some fun could be had.....nope...

MPA didn't want to take off her clothes and wanted $100 USD for a HJ....I gave her $50. I am not one to argue but I had to tell her that's too much for just that.

she was so interested in moving to canada as well. She kept asking me questions. Good luck if she thinks guys will pay her $100 or more just for HJ.
Toronto with our loose immigration policies has been a great sex destination for a long time but its true prices have been catching up quickly. 2014-2018 were the best years. Even at todays prices girls in other first world western cities such as Amsterdam, San Fran and Vegas will charge 2-3x more.
 
Do NOT GO to the spa if:

1. You cann't afford the tip
2. You bargain the tip with the MP.

Bargain is so LOW.

Sometimes, while waiting in the room for the attendant, I heard guys, brown ones (not being racist here), bargain with the MP. I recollect one brown guy telling the MP he has no money because his mortgage was $3K. Showing off and Bargain do not mix well.
I've had sessions ruined cause of thin walls and hearing thick Indian accents arguing or trying to bargain with girls.
 
Do NOT GO to the spa if:

1. You cann't afford the tip
2. You bargain the tip with the MP.

Bargain is so LOW.

Sometimes, while waiting in the room for the attendant, I heard guys, brown ones (not being racist here), bargain with the MP. I recollect one brown guy telling the MP he has no money because his mortgage was $3K. Showing off and Bargain do not mix well.
They do it bcuz its done back home & it works. ;)

We’d get fucked over in an Indian Brothel! Likely pay $5 or $6 too much! :lol

Seriously tho, yer s’posed 2 haggle there & Caribbean… they just dunno rules here. Geez, its like foreplay 4 these guys…
 
In what world does the customer decide what its worth for someone to ride their dick? LOL
You claim to own 4 rental Condos in the city. Do you let your tenants tell you how much your units are worth?
This is a free sex market buddy

Toronto with our loose immigration policies has been a great sex destination for a long time but its true prices have been catching up quickly. 2014-2018 were the best years. Even at todays prices girls in other first world western cities such as Amsterdam, San Fran and Vegas will charge 2-3x more.
Chicago is crazy price wise ...
 
In what world does the customer decide what its worth for someone to ride their dick? LOL
You claim to own 4 rental Condos in the city. Do you let your tenants tell you how much your units are worth?
This is a free sex market buddy

Toronto with our loose immigration policies has been a great sex destination for a long time but its true prices have been catching up quickly. 2014-2018 were the best years. Even at todays prices girls in other first world western cities such as Amsterdam, San Fran and Vegas will charge 2-3x more.
If the lady priced the ride for $150, I would politely decline. She (and I relative to the condo sets rates); however, clients have the right to seek services (or accomodations) elsewhere. In the specific case from the poster, I commentee that I find it fair and reasonable as a consumer. Correct sex free market.

Don't care about the price of sex elsewhere similar to the price of real estate. Would be nice to purchase real estate at Vegas prices but have it valued like SF real estate. But that's free market as well. Or supply and demand.

With that, I wish you all the best.
 
Basically, if you go to spas twice or three times or more a week, then you might be an addict. If you go once every other week or once a month then it is a hobby.

It takes "3 weeks" to create an addition assuming you do it every single day.

The boundary between hobby and addiction is very thin.

Does this also mean that if you have sex two, three or more times a week that you're a sex addict?
 
I've been known to splurge way above market just to push the boundaries specially if a white mp at amp and first visit for a good first impression . But it has to be negotiated up front.
 
Does this also mean that if you have sex two, three or more times a week that you're a sex addict?
Uh oh.

😯





:rolf
 
So u need 2 have the last word, ré bump inf the thread, more than u want 2 let the thread die… :lol

That’s cool. I give u the last word…
Although I don't disagree with your point, I know of some ladies being shrewd with their finances, purchasing assets such as condos or stocks, leaving the luxury items as potential gifts from clients. They up their rates or tip expectations and we keep playing. And should we stop visiting a lady, the monetary increase absorbs the drop in clientele, saving the wear and tear on their hands, mouth and pussy.

This is an industry similar to sports where young are needed to replenish the pool, fresh meat. And as one establishes herself, ups one's rates until they are the old vet just looking for an minimum contract.

Getting back to the shrewd ladies, eventually they accumulate enough wealth to retire from the industry or semi-retire seeing a few clients for spending money.

And back to the main topic, I agree tips are becoming ridiculous. One can move from the spa scene's top establishments, looking for bargains in B and C class spas. The lady may be older or appear not as classy; but there is value. And the most important point, agree to services and price up front. There is no need to play a game of The Price is Right.
I’m not sure why but the image of playing price is right at a spa made me chuckle .... do you see the girl and try to guess what she’d charge?
 
I’m not sure why but the image of playing price is right at a spa made me chuckle .... do you see the girl and try to guess what she’d charge?
More fun game… go 2 semi-legit spa, tip 💯 after rm fee, just throw it on the table… & try 2 guess what she’ll do! :)
 
More fun game… go 2 semi-legit spa, tip 💯 after rm fee, just throw it on the table… & try 2 guess what she’ll do! :)
Or just shoot a money cannon of 1’s and see how long it takes for them to be picked up.
 
I agree that the minimum wage is not enough. But when has it been enough? Probably never. But, my concern is that in the last 15 or 20 years, the minimum wage has risen a lot faster than the average industrial wage. The gap between the two wage sectors has closed tremendously. Much of Canada's high paying manufacturing jobs have disappeared to other countries. If the manufacturing jobs would have stayed, we wouldn't need to rely so heavily on minimum wage jobs, where people need to work like slaves for peanuts. But hey, that all started when Brian Mulroney decided to bring in free trade. His excuse was that prices for most consumer goods would fall. But what good does lower prices do, if nobody has a job to pay for things that are even at rock bottom prices? Absolutely nothing. I'm sure that most Canadians wouldn't mind paying a little more, if they had a good job with good pay, rather than working their asses off like slaves, just to save a few bucks a week. It only makes sense.
 
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I agree that the minimum wage is not enough. But when has it been enough? Probably never. But, my concern is that in the last 15 or 20 years, the minimum wage has risen a lot faster than the average industrial wage. The gap between the two wage sectors has closed tremendously. Much of Canada's high paying manufacturing jobs have disappeared to other countries. If the manufacturing jobs would have stayed, we wouldn't need to rely so heavily on minimum wage jobs, where people need to work like slaves for peanuts. But hey, that all started when Brian Mulroney decided to bring in free trade. His excuse was that prices for most consumer goods would fall. But what good does lower prices do, if nobody has a job to pay for things that are even at rock bottom prices? Absolutely nothing. I'm sure that most Canadians wouldn't mind paying a little more, if they had a good job with good pay, rather than working their asses off like slaves, just to save a few bucks a week. It only makes sense.

Free trade is not the problem.

Cheap goods made in China and India are the problem. Retailers want higher profit margins so they squeeze their suppliers for every cent. Suppliers in turn need to find cheaper raw materials and manufacturing in order to meet retailers demands. So off to China and India they go for cheap materials and slave labour.
 
What generosity? You stiffed her.

Why didn't you just give her the $50 like you originally were?

Why? Because she didn't want $50, she wanted $70 :D

She lost out on $50 and he lost out on a hand-job.
 
Why? Because she didn't want $50, she wanted $70 :D

She lost out on $50 and he lost out on a hand-job.
I think he got the Hand job BUT according to him he DID NOT ask for it, so he offered $50 and she wanted $70. Not sure if it was a OTC HJ or NUDE HJ
 
I think he got the Hand job BUT according to him he DID NOT ask for it, so he offered $50 and she wanted $70. Not sure if it was a OTC HJ or NUDE HJ
OTC for me means over the counter securities. Can you clarify the lingo?

Don’t get me going on how much manufacturing we have lost here. Or politics in general.
 
OTC for me means over the counter securities. Can you clarify the lingo?

Don’t get me going on how much manufacturing we have lost here. Or politics in general.
OTC - Over the Clothes - That is what I meant - she remain clothed. No nudity whatsoever.

No politics or any other topics discussion for me here. NMCOT (Not My Cup Of Tea - just to clarify for you, Mr Newbee just in case) 😇
 
OTC - Over the Clothes - That is what I meant - she remain clothed. No nudity whatsoever.

No politics or any other topics discussion for me here. NMCOT (Not My Cup Of Tea - just to clarify for you, Mr Newbee just in case) 😇
Ah this was OTC
 
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    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new sweet Mia 25 years old and young cute Ivy with curve body, pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  38. NewOriental:
    TUESDAY at 𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔: HAPPY & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. VIVIAN is a pretty and very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5’7” tall, with a slim figure. Vivian is very friendly and versatile.
  39. Dreaminn:
    TUESDAY at 💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: DELIA, EVELYN, & LULU. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ ]DELIA is young and very pretty, slim with natural boobs and an impressive ass. Her services are very satisfying. EVELYN is💫A True Spinner!💫 with a beautiful face and tiny tiny body. A rare gem, 5’1” & only 95 pounds! Spinner lover’s rejoice!
  40. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Cherry & best massage Rachel 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ CHERRY is a Vietnamese beauty, standing 1.62Cm tall & weighing 50Kg, with a nice 32C bust size. She is a sexy and charming lady with excellent service. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant
  41. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(437) 818-8896☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Angel 💕 Very beautiful girl from Taiwan, very curvy, young and sexy, she can provide a great massage and wonderful touch and super service. Angel is so sexy, especially her 34C breasts and her big juicy tight bum you can worship and ador
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: Cindy, Eva & Helen. Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Eva is young, slim, innocent & demure looks, but don’t let her innocent looks deceive. She can massage & service very well.
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5’1” and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 ASHA, MALIYA, LUCY, AMANDA, NISHA, SANA, AAVI, MAY 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Lulu1980:
    Hi guys 🤪🤪🤪Phoenix blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹Jessica sexy body big boobs 😘😘😘very good body slide 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹and Coco very good table shower😘😘😘😘😘 ,Cici Deep Tissue Massage👍👍👍👍5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke ☎️ 416-817-3366
  46. Sparkling Spa:
    📣📣50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!!📣📣 🍆🍑💧💧WITH A WILD TIME WITH JAPANESE MILF CHANEL and SERVICE QUEEN JENNIFER!! 905-604-8186!!
  47. bumika.vashi:
    VASHI NAVI MUMBAI FULL SERVICE :oops: TeleGram: @BUMIKAVASHI ☎️ WhatsApp9️⃣9️⃣3️⃣0️⃣9️⃣1️⃣2️⃣6️⃣6️⃣9️⃣
  48. bumika.vashi:
    (((आपको बिना नाटक या नखरे करने वाला सर्विस चाहे तोह याद करना. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. :oops: Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not fo
  49. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ SANA, NEW GIRL MARIA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  50. Sparkling Spa:
    🌸Sparkling Spa: 📣📣50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!!📣📣 🍆🍑ENJOY VICTORIA DAY WITH JENNIFER AND SUMMER !! 905-604-8186!
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