Treating a client with MS

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I am interested in any and all suggestions or comments regarding working with clients who have MS. I have a 32 year old male I am treating weekly and I want to be as effective as I can be. I have treated clients with this malady before but it was usually in the later seforum.xxxes of the disease where they are wheelchair bound and I have to pick them up out of their chairs and put them on the table. This young man is still ambulatory but his legs are getting weak. He responds to what I do but I just want to know if anyone has found an effective way to address this in their own work.

I am currently using assisted stretching, various massage modalities and CST and he has success with this but it's usually short term success. I am eager to hear any other suggestions or experiences.

Thank you.
 


I have not worked with someone with MS. Do you have the book Clinical Massage Therapy by Rattray & Ludwig? If not and you would like the information, PM me and I will fax it to you.
 


elsewhere said:
Thank you. Great recommendation!

Yowza!!! It ain't cheap though!

lol, noooo, it ain't cheap ~ but it is a very valuable resource.

For those unfamiliar with the book, the subtitle is, "Understanding, assessing and treating over 70 conditions." I found it a blessing when I did my case study on a client with Spinal Cord Injury, and have referred to it often during my career.
 
Treating a client with MS

elsewhere said:
I am currently using assisted stretching, various massage modalities and CST and he has success with this but it's usually short term success. I am eager to hear any other suggestions or experiences.

Thank you.

From my reading on MS and fitness therapy it sounds like you are on the right course for this client. My source recommends "PNF techniques...as a primary means of restoration and function."

I know a woman with MS, I see her maybe once or twice a year when she visits the area, but she gets regular massage in her hometown. Along with her fabulous meds, she also does yoga three times a week and cardio. So I don't have anything experience wise to share. Except to say that she is doing great with her maintenance of massage, yoga, cardio and meds...and naps when she needs them.

So I wonder, is your client doing anything outside of massage to maintain the work?
 
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tribute said:
So I wonder, is your client doing anything outside of massage to maintain the work?

Thanks for your question. He leads a very busy life with two young sons aged 1 and 3. He's a really good Dad but I don't think he has much time left for himself. I do have him swimming though and he says that is helping him. Yoga makes sense. I will mention it to him.
 


I totally get the busy factor. If your client can learn some yoga poses that would be good to keep up strength and balance, I bet his kids would LOVE doing yoga with him at home. My son loves it when I start doing yoga. He does it with me. Your clients kids are perfect ages, my son is 3 as well and has been watching me do yoga for the past two years.

Swimming was another great recommendation for exercise. I think you are on the right track. It would be interesting to hear anyone else's experience with MS clients.
 


Exercise is the only way for MS clients to retain the strength and motor control they need to avoid/delay being wheelchair-dependent. One of my personal training clients has had MS for over 20 years. It's been a serious battle for her for a long time, but she's still ambulatory. She wrote a short success story which can be read here: http://cstminnesota.com/5.html#susan

Since writing that story, Susan has returned to her writing and given some local readings - things she hadn't done for years. Though MS presents a number of challenges to remaining active, she continues to train with me, and is continuing to improve her balance, strength, and overall capabilities.

Since MS involves demyelinization of the nerves, the fatigue described by so many folks with MS is neurological rather than muscular in nature. Fine motor control and proprioception are early victims, while gross strength in simple movements can easily be maintained or even regained for many years. Balance is further challenged by increasingly poor posture.

I have found AIS stretching to be very safe and effective, and AIS has a wealth of strengthening exercises (see the book at http://www.stretchingusa.com) that work well. Occasionally, performing positional release techniques helps relax overactive muscles, enabling their aneforum.xxxonists to function more effectively by reducing reciprocal inhibition. PRT performed before stretching may make it easier to lengthen chronically tight tissues.

With advanced MS, it is also common to have a certain "mental fog" that impacts memory, cognition, etc. to some extent. Susan is a sharp lady, but she has found some mental tasks more challenging than they used to be. I don't know how much of this is due to neurological changes vs changes in level of daily mental and physical stimulation as personal activity levels and routines change. In any case, Susan has reviewed that her family and friends have commented on various perceived improvements in her memory, problem-solving, writing, comprehending, and other mental skills.

One thing I've found extraordinarily helpful for Susan: Intu-Flow (more info here: http://www.profcs.com/app/?Clk=2217683)

Intu-Flow is a simple follow-along program of light mobility exercises designed to help release excess tension and restore lost joint mobility from head to toe. It includes instruction in simple breathing drills and balance exercises that pretty much anyone can follow, and it's completely compatible with yoga, tai chi, and other mindful exercise practice. As Susan has worked with Intu-Flow, she has regained mobility throughout her body and become much more aware of her body. Though her proprioception is still impaired, she is developing improved sub-conscious awareness and control. At first, she was stumbling from one machine to another, and now she's becoming adept at using her mini-Clubbells to perform complex full-body exercises. It has been an amazing process!

MS clients need light, stimulating exercise that challenges their coordination. In working to master such exercises, they will see tremendous carryover to simpler tasks. Heavier, strength-oriented tasks should be simple and work a wide variety of muscle groups, with some light coordination drills practiced as well. Single sets of many reps tend to fatigue the CNS too quickly, while multiple sets of 5-8 reps (with short breaks between) permit greater CNS recovery and better endurance during an exercise session.

Since some MS clients have difficulty with sweating and may overheat easily, swimming and water aerobics are good options. It's important that trainers and clients be prepared to simply let things cool down now and then during a workout. This makes it very challenging to develop aerobic capacity, but it's possible.

Hope that helps!
 


Jason that was wonderful information. Thank you for taking the time to share it.

I remember reading about your client Susan on your website some time ago and was very impressed with the passion with which she dealt with her situation. You did an amazing job with her.

So far it sounds like as far as the body work goes I am pretty much on the same page with everyone. I'm combining techniques and adapting each week as he seems to have fluctuating symptoms. Thanks for the reminder about the fatigue being more nerve related than muscular. He responds really well to the stretching. My attempts to utilize AIS are mitigated by the fact that the only time I can see this guy is Sunday at 8 or 9 p.m. This is his request as he has a crazy schedule. He is usually so tired by the time I get him a lot of what I do has to be adjusted accordingly so it limits some of the techniques I can use.

I usually end the session doing about 40 minutes of un-windings (I work on him for 2 hours) which he responds to really well. He works out at Equinox Gym but I am not sure about his exercise routine but I do have him swimming for 3 weeks now. There is such good advice in your post I will probably just send it to him.

I have had MS clients before but much more advanced cases where I'd have to take them out of their wheelchair and gently lift onto the table. This guy is young, still ambulatory, a wonderful father and husband and one of those kind of people that you want to go above and beyond to the call of duty for.

So thanks everybody for your help. Even those that PM-ed me with great advice. Much appreciated.
 
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    Full season wellness center: Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Dasia,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Sofia , Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Anjoo , Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  30. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  31. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Sophie and cici Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Helen ๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  32. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Summer and young fun Jessy open mind , pretty GFE Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  33. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  34. KSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: JESSICA, YUMI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ JESSICA is 20, Chinese, 5โ€™3โ€ and 110 Lbs, sexy & good looking with 34C goodies to play with. YUMI is a young early twenties Japanese girl, about 5โ€™2โ€, medium build, natural chest, and a big sexy bum. Yumi is very versatile and skilled. CINDY is slim & pretty
  35. Dreaminn:
    SUNDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: EMILY, LULU & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ EMILY is a tall Chinese girl, 170Cms with nice natural C Cups and long brown hair. Emily is open minded and very friendly. LULU is a very popular & well known Chinese attendant, slim and beautiful with 34C Cups, long sexy legs, and incredible services.
  36. SunriseRH:
    SUNDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: SUMMER . 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
  37. NewOriental:
    SUNDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  38. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: Be๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น, & Sophia ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a petite & cute, 34C, 155Cms & 50Kg, very gentle & patient. She has good communication, massage & service. SOPHIA is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€
  39. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Jenny. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Jennifer, Mia & Sophia. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded.
  41. CrowFoot42:
    Palace Spa
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  45. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MALIYA, SANA, PAOLA, PAYAL PEARL, KIRAN, NIMRAT, ANAYA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Suki and Tiffany Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  47. Dreaminn:
    SATURDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: ANGELA, SOPHIA & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ ANGELA is a slim pretty lady from China, with natural boobs, slim waist and grabbable ass. SOPHIA is a young & beautiful 21 year old Vietnamese lady, slim with a nice booty, who has the services you need. Very nice cbj & services.
  48. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ HANA, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  49. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl with a wild ro
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan just ar
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