Body Part - Hips/Pelvis/Glutes - Techniques

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Hi.

I envision a sticky for this thread in the future (and the other body part threads I'll start!), if this goes well.

We could utilize this sort of like the "Massage Pearls" thread. Anything you find interesting within the MassagePlanetL forums regarding a specific part body and the work surrounding it, could be parked in this thread. Obviously we may end up with some thoughts duplicated from the Massage Pearls, but who cares!!!! The more, the merrier!

In addition, if you'd just be interested in posting some neat techniques you do for this particular body part, that would be wonderful too!

Consider items like:
  • Amount of time you generally spend on this body part.
  • Amount of time you can spend on this body part.
  • Techniques you may use to stretch out a massage while working this body part (example: you need to pass a few minutes to get back on track -- swedish therapists may really appreciate this info).
  • How you incorporate other bodyparts at the same time when you are working this area (example: long strokes in working the hip with one hand and the posterior calf with the other -- in unison).
  • Techniques for specific problems or patterns.
  • Draping/loose draping/non-draping information - the why & why-nots associated with this area.
  • Tell us something that just feels good!
  • Types of lotions/oils you would use for the technique and why.
  • How to perform deeper work or lighter work in the region.
  • Case Study Examples from your practice.
  • Bonus thoughts that you may have that would be helpful to new and old therapists alike!

Without further ado .... it's all about the hips/pelvis/glutes!!!!
 


Regarding work with hot stones around into the glutes:

melb said:
The advaneforum.xxxe to bigger stones is they stay warmer longer so you can do more work before you have to change them, and they do have the extra weight. (by big I mean about 3-4inches across, not 6inches across, THOSE big stones are more for placement) I do use the edge of a BIG 6" one getting into the glutes around the greater trochanter, and I will use it on the back of the thighs going up into the glutes.
 


akb said:
Client lying supine...pick up leg flex knee and hip then stretch by rotating at the hip. Support leg by holding the heel and on the thigh just above the knee.

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So the picture on the right is how to hold it then circle that sucker and stretch those rotators!
 


Intuitouch said:
So I have this new client who is suffering from sciatic pain and has lumbar compression.

Of course in the beginning of the session as I'm familiarizing myself with his muscles, the tightness, the soreness...yada...yada...yada...and I'm asking him about pressure and depth he says certain areas around his SI joint are incredibly tender.

So...I'm working along on the surrounding tissue for release and going back periodically to work around the SI joint...asking about intensity to see if he notices any changes. As I'm working through the quadratus lumborum and into the erectors he, of course, is surprised at how sore these areas are throughout his body.

Being the diligent practitioner I keep working...and working into an ever widening circle around the SI joint, as well as, mixing in work that addresses his back and legs in general.

Zoom to the end of the session -- as I revisit the SI joint and the specifically sore areas he became aware of at the beginning of the massage...asking him about intensity -- lo and behold it's not sore anymore.

LOL The surprise in his voice is considerable!! LOL

I laughed and said, "Ahh, you sound so surprised!" at which point he laughed and acknowledged that indeed he was surprised and grateful that he's not sore anymore!
 


For akb:
Nice photos showing the work you're doing -

but one caution:
With the client in the supine position:
If you're working with someone who has knee issues it is better to hold behind the knee (just above the joint) rather than closing up the joint as shown. We learned in the AIS classes, with Aaron Mattes, to stand to the side of the table & allow about a 45 degree angle bend in the knee while doing the rotations, then do the stretch slightly to the side & up toward the armpit - holding the stretch there for approx. 2 seconds. The other way to do this if your client is experiencing a knee problem is to allow them keep the leg straighter while you stretch the entire leg up toward the shoulder.

The other way in which I address the hip/glute area is this:
For the left hip - stand on that side - with the client laying prone - bring the leg up to a 45 degree angle (and again watching out for problem knees may require other adjustments) I will place my left hand along the outer hip/glute region feeling for tension in the attachment points then proceed to compress & release - rocking the entire hip as I use my right hand to hold just above the ankle - then gently but firmly stretch & rock the lower leg medially than laterally - back & forth a few times as I work the hip. Then I frog the leg out to the side & continue compressing & releasing the entire joint - finishing the side by doing acupressure compressions down the entire leg. Once I straighten the leg & recheck the hip and points north up into the waistline I generally find that the whole lower back has opened up.

After completing both sides, I will then proceed to do a few full strokes of light into deeper pressure over the entire back before working the shoulders/scapula area, upper & mid back, then pulling it all together as I do the remainder of the whole back of the body sequence from the head to the feet.
 


I love working this area! Don't know exactly how it happened, but I went from feeling kinda ignorant about it to feeling it's now one of my strongest areas to work. The hip flexors especially are rewarding, as I often see dramatic changes in just one or two sessions.

Lately I've taught a few classes (CE provider approval pending) for MTs that focus solely upon the hip flexors. The course was originally intended to be just 3 hours... but I have a good 8-10 hours of material! :lol: So we covered just the most critical pieces (assessment, anatomy, and palpatory skills) and surveyed a few basic treatment skills.

For simplicity, I roughly divide treatment skills into two broad categories that each have two broad subcategories:

A. Passive Techniques - basically anything you do where the client passively allows you to manipulate their tissues. These I divide into two categories: Indirect and Direct.

1. Indirect Techniques - basically techniques that don't require putting force directly into the tissue. These include fascia work, positional release, some forms of stretching, and so forth.

2. Direct Techniques - basically techniques that apply direct pressure to the tissues. These include trigger point, cross fiber friction, etc.

B. Active Techniques - basically anything you do in which the client actively participates in moving or manipulating their body. These I divide into two categories: Stretching and Exercising.

1. Stretching - Here I teach active stretching methods like Active Isolated Stretching and PNF stretching. There are others, but I prefer these for ease of use, effectiveness, and because clients learn them fairly easily.

2. Exercising - This could run the gamut of somatic education, personal training, etc... and it's far outside the scope of practice of most MTs. I limit my course material to emphasizing the importance of knowing practice limits and referring clients to the appropriate experts. MTs should not mess around with exercising clients or making recommendations regarding a client's exercise program unless they have real credentials and some actual training experience.

I believe MTs should have a good grasp of how to assess for hip flexor issues. This includes observation of posture and movement in addition to the verbal intake. It's also critical that the MT establish good solid boundaries and a connection of trust before working the area. Communication, in short, is key.

An MT should also really know what they are looking for, how to find it, and what to beware of. There's a lot of important stuff around the inguinal ligament, so you don't want to be aimlessly poking about. Even on very large clients, it's easy to figure out where you are once you find the ASIS and use it as a landmark.

I prefer to start with indirect techniques, especially if the client's anterior hip fascia is thick and doesn't move easily. Also, indirect techniques tend to be more easily tolerated if those areas are very tender and/or ticklish.

Direct techniques usually follow indirect ones, at which point the tissues should be well prepared. I teach a gentle approach to applying direct pressure, to make it easy on both client and MT. No sense in either one feeling real pain during or after the work!

Active stretching is something I would normally do last, to get the body to use the tissues we just released. This is critical for motor education, and clients can learn and practice these skills for faster progress between sessions.

Though the hip flexor course I've put together focuses on the psoas, iliacus, and pectineus, it's important to also look at them in relation to the glutes, TFL, quads, adductors, etc. The whole pelvic area is fascinating, and I hope to see more MTs take an active interest in working it!
 


dodab said:
Have you tried to make an enegetic connection between the pelvis and the sacrum? No pressure is needed, just a gentle hold of both of them for a minute or two may help to move them back in unison. Just a thought.
 
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    SATURDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: CICI, HELEN, YOYO & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ CICI is a slim 110 Lbs & pretty 23 years โ€œMust Tryโ€ honey, with all menus available. HELEN stands 5โ€™3โ€ & weighs 110 Lbs, with nice 34D pillows to comfort you. YOYO is JAPANESE, 21 Yrs, 5โ€™2โ€ & 115 Lbs, with a nice big ass & great service.
  32. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ HANA, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  33. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Ivy โค๏ธ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivyโ€™s good looks
  34. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Sophia and young sweet Yoyo with curve body open mind , pretty GFE Ella and fun Lina 36DD are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  35. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ PAYAL PEARL, MAY, NIMRAT, NINA, ANGELINA, MALIYA, SANA, MONIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  36. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Suki and Tiffany Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  37. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, LUNA, TIFFANY & WENDY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. LUNA is New today. Details to follow...
  38. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ SPA: SUMMER & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5โ€™6โ€ & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy.
  39. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  40. ASPA:
    SATUR๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny and best massage Rachel. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธMAGGIE & NANA. Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like.
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Niko & Tracy, *nicole tracy cindy Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Niko is tall, very pretty, and slim with a sexy body, natural C Cups and long nipples.
  43. Tajul Islam:
    how much Per hours rate only sex
  44. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Yoyo, Young Sexy Slim Chinese Emma, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  45. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Jessica and Mia Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available Today
  46. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have amazing girls today ๐ŸŒธ HELLEN, MONIKA, NINA, AMANDA, AAVI, ANGELINA, ANAYA, SANA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  47. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl Angel๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility with Victoria- Exotic beauty with great...
  48. KSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: HELEN, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HELEN is a pretty Chinese babe, 24, 5โ€™3โ€ & 115 Lbs, can provide good services. SUKI is 23, 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body. CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5โ€™3โ€ sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, CICI, TIFFANY & WENDY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. CICI is Chinese, 49 Kgs & 1M 57Cms, with nice D melons & an open services menu.
  50. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
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